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Re: The Alien Franchise
« Reply #135 on: May 16, 2017, 07:53:49 AM »
I'm obsessed with Rick & Morty now after marathoning the entire series in three days. Their little Alien sell-out piece makes my cockles warm. (They do sell out shit like this all the time, usually making fun of whatever it is they've been given oodles of money to peddle.)


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Re: The Alien Franchise
« Reply #136 on: May 19, 2017, 12:56:46 PM »
I snuck out and saw Alien: Covenant last night. It's better than it deserves to be even though it's pretty much a Force Awakens style reboot/remake of the first movie with some Prometheus apology scenes thrown in for good measure.

The movie is best enjoyed by convincing yourself you've never seen an Alien movie before and all this is new. (This is also the film's major problem. Everything is telegraphed from a million miles away because you've seen it before.) Based on my Prometheus experience, I expected it to be slow and nonsensical, but it's actually quite thrilling even if the human characters in these movies are still making some of the dumbest choices ever. The biggest problem is it takes too long to get to what we know is coming and once it gets there, it barrels through the "good stuff" too fast. What the Alien movies really need is a Mad Max: Fury Road style strip down. All style and action with very little plot and story. The Prometheus parts of the story doesn't bog it down but demystifying the Alien adds nothing. Well, almost nothing. (I won't spoil the big reveal, though it hasn't been a well kept secret.) Just characters trying to get from A to B being chased by Aliens is really all these movies need.

Technically, it might be the best Alien movie ever. Some reviews have bitched about the CGI alien, but the speed this thing moves is both physically believable and awesome to watch. It almost made the Alien scary again. Sets are great. Sci-fi is (mostly) believable. Performances are fun. Fassbender in particular chews the scenery is a super-satisifying way.

RC says check it out... as long as you're fully aware it's basically a modern day remake of the first film.
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Re: The Alien Franchise
« Reply #137 on: May 19, 2017, 01:25:10 PM »
And Danny McBride playing a serious role works? or is he playing a Kotto/Stanton mash-up?

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Re: The Alien Franchise
« Reply #138 on: May 19, 2017, 01:29:25 PM »
It works. And you're knowledge of him as fucking gonzo in everything else actually helps because his character sort of internalizes that. (He's the pilot.)

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Re: The Alien Franchise
« Reply #139 on: May 19, 2017, 01:35:11 PM »
Man. I'm so burned after Prometheus I almost can't bring myself to believe you...

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Re: The Alien Franchise
« Reply #140 on: May 19, 2017, 01:47:14 PM »
Oh, this thing is miles better than Prometheus. If anything, it makes Prometheus look even worse (if that's possible) thought weirdly relies on a few Prometheus plot points when it's unnecessarily explaining itself. You feel like the producers realized they kind of fucked up and are trying to make it right.

Overall, the movie is quite well done, maybe the best after Alien and Aliens. Just don't expect anything mind-blowingly original. I don't know if hitting all the familiar beats really well qualifies as a success, but maybe that's all we can ask for at this point.

And the Alien is pretty cool when it finally shows up.
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