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Title: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 05, 2009, 09:58:48 PM
ED 3/10/09:  Here, I think we need this here.  No more one post threads or threads like "gee, we don't have a thread for Riptide?"  Also merging a few older threads below.  So just general TV chat and shows that aren't worth going on and on about.  Or whatever.





Being Human:

I was unimpressed with advanced talk about this show, ignored it, and then read (after the season ended) that it was quietly brilliant...so I decided to give it a go. 

A vampire turned during the Great War and a recently made werewolf move into an apartment haunted by the previous owner, a girl who died in an accident.  She's a chirpy, friendly ghost, they're a couple of British metrosexuals, and it's got this bizarre Friends vibe going on.  Except they're all struggling with these supernatural demons.  The werewolf has to lock himself up during a full moon, the vampire is the classic reluctant vampire type who works as a nurse and is trying to not kill people, and ghost girl can only be seen by certain people and can only do certain things.  They're all infinitely lonely, and the vamp has to deal with the whole vampire hierarchy thing...which doesn't seem to mind that he's a goodnik, but does mind that he's interfering with their "recruitment." 

It's strangely refreshing to see a slightly different take on the "young, special, do-gooder" vampire character and his sire (and leader of the clan).  Still the same menacing ancient overlord, but it's somehow fresh.  The sire vampire (who is a cop) does magic tricks for children, is polite, and is more like a somewhat easy going mafia capo than anything else.

Anyway...it's 100% fluff.  But it doesn't suck, and it's British so it's cool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_Human_(TV_series)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/beinghuman/
Title: Burn Notice
Post by: nacho on March 06, 2009, 02:13:41 PM
Wait...where's the Burn Notice thread?  Didn't we have one?

Anyway...awesome show, everyone go watch it.

What I came here to post was to warn Sirharles off of the finale.  There's a car chase scene with a punk rock song where they bleep shit out.  It's just about the most distracting thing ever.

punk rock punk rock punk rock BLEEEEEEEEP punk rock punk rock punk rock BLEEEEP

So you're spending this entire awesome car chase with bullets and bombs trying to figure out what this Pavlovian tone is until you realize it's something in the song. 

So, I guess, wait for the DVD.
Title: Re: Burn Notice
Post by: Sirharles on March 09, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
I saw last night, yea that scene was bad.  But the rest of the episode was great.  And it's coming back for another season in June!  So no year long wait.
Title: Star Wars
Post by: nacho on March 10, 2009, 05:54:54 PM
Making the rounds today...

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MTV News reports that casting for a live-action  Star Wars TV series is
currently underway.

News of the potential production first surfaced in 2005 while George Lucas was promoting Revenge of the Sith, but work on the Clones Wars animated feature film and Cartoon Network series took creative precedence. In late 2007, Lucas revealed that he and his team were about to begin writing scripts for the live-action show.

Acording to MTV News, Rose Byrne let slip during the junket for the Nicolas Cage thriller Knowing that Team Lucas is casting a wide net for actors to join the show. "A lot of my friends have been auditioning for it," she said.

Asked whether she planned to audition, Byrne replied, "I don't know if I look that good in space."
Title: Re: Star Wars
Post by: Nubbins on March 10, 2009, 07:41:16 PM
But....... she was in Sunshine?



Also I believe Einstein proved that hotness is magnified in the vacuum of space.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 15, 2009, 09:10:38 PM
More on Being Human:

The reason I gave it a second chance was because everyone was jabbering about how the series took a turn towards the darker side as of episode five (building up for the finale).  Just finished episode five and, yes, this show is the shit.  After four episodes of cheesy nothing, which still managed to build up our characters, episode five does see a shift towards awesomeness.  And also makes a ref to the new Doctor Who and the old Sapphire and Steele, the latter of which is hilarious. 

So, yes, get into Being Human.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 16, 2009, 12:08:25 PM
Gay.

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Building on 16 years of water-cooler programming and soaring ratings growth following its most-watched year ever, SCI FI Channel is evolving into Syfy, beginning this summer, Dave Howe, president, SCI FI, announced today.

By changing the name to Syfy, which remains phonetically identical, the new brand broadens perceptions and embraces a wider range of current and future imagination-based entertainment beyond just the traditional sci-fi genre, including fantasy, supernatural, paranormal, reality, mystery, action and adventure. It also positions the brand for future growth by creating an ownable trademark that can travel easily with consumers across new media and non-linear digital platforms, new international channels and extend into new business ventures.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 16, 2009, 03:13:57 PM
So it's "new" Coke.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Nubbins on March 16, 2009, 03:23:29 PM
The Real World on a spaceship
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Matt on March 16, 2009, 05:37:51 PM
I wonder why they had such high ratings. Maybe it's your critically acclaimed show that you fucking canceled you fucking idiots.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 16, 2009, 11:49:07 PM
Law & Order UK!  Watching for Jamie Bamber, and it's really weird. 

I guess Law & Order is one of those shows that, even if you never watch it, or own a TV, you still manage to absorb through the air because it's on 27 hours a day 8 days a week. 

But now it's in the UK, and it's that weird ass UK procedural shit.  And the narrator talks about the crown prosecutors.  And Jamie Bamber is talking with his real voice instead of his American Lee Adama voice.

I feel like I'm high or something.  It's Law & Order...but in British!

Really, Jamie Bamber throws me.  It's like whenever I hear Jin from Lost talking in his normal Iowa accent and I go -- JIN!  You can't speak English!  Stop it!

 
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 16, 2009, 11:56:24 PM
Here's a clear example of the problem:


Talk about polar opposites.  It's not even the proper BBC accent.  It's that low rent estuary accent that makes the American accent sound almost melodic in comparison.

In fact... Law & Order UK might just be unwatchable because of the Apollo factor.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 16, 2009, 11:58:32 PM
Also, Freema Ageyman as a high powered lawyer is laughable.  She's riding the coat tails of Doctor Who but, unlike Billie Piper, she's really awful.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 18, 2009, 06:57:07 AM
The current How I Met Your Mother arc --

Let's talk about my feelings for Laura Prepon.

Except, when she's a blonde, she looks like the hideous New Jersey whore that she is.

But, still... It's the voice.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 18, 2009, 07:12:53 AM
Also, is hiding Alyson Hannigan's pregnancy the most difficult thing TV has done?  Because, no matter how hard they try, it still looks like she's having sextuplets. 
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Sirharles on March 18, 2009, 09:55:11 AM
I just want a pajama suit!

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 18, 2009, 09:56:38 AM
No man...night shirt for me.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 23, 2009, 10:17:51 AM
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Sci Fi orders 'Phantom,' 'Riverworld,' 'Alice'

So what's going to take the place of "Battlestar Galactica"?

Sci Fi Channel has few ideas.

The network-soon-to-be-known-as SyFy has greenlighted a trio of miniseries fantasy projects, including two that will serve as potential series pilots, and two of which are based on well-known classic titles.

Sci Fi has ordered a retelling of "Alice in Wonderland"; a fresh take on the comic-book hero "The Phantom"; and "Riverworld," from a series of fantasy books by Philip Jose Farmer. All the projects are four-hour movies from prolific production company RHI Entertainment.

"Riverworld," about a photojournalist transported to a mysterious world occupied by everyone who has ever lived on Earth, and "Phantom" will air as backdoor pilots (titles under consideration for a series order contingent on drawing a large enough audience). It's the programming model the network has used with success before, as in the case of "Battlestar."

"The four-hour format allows us to command large dollars around the world for our shows that puts about ($4 million-$6 million) of production on the screen per hour," said Robert Halmi Jr., president and CEO of RHI entertainment. "It gives the network a chance to try a concept with the same production values, if not better, than you'd get for a series."

The new "Alice" promises to be different than previous incarnations (more than a couple of which were produced by RHI). The project is written and directed by Nick Willing, who also did Sci Fi's highly rated "Wizard of Oz" revamp "Tin Man."

"We thought 'Alice' was the perfectly underlying material to tell a classic story with a modern twist," Halmi said. "We'll have new incredible worlds and a more grown-up feel."

Sci Fi Channel executive vp original programming Mark Stern pointed out that weaknesses in the original "Alice" story, which often was more about the passing scenery than character development, allow for more leeway and modernization than most fantasy tales.

"Lewis Carroll was more concerned about politics and satire then telling a mythological story," Stern said. "You're not really engaged with Alice in a proactive and emotionally fulfilling way."

"Phantom" has been adapted a few times without much success, but Halmi said the previous stumbles are a good reason to try again.

"That there hasn't been a successful 'Phantom' leaves the door wide open for us, since nobody has made it their own yet," Halmi said.

Sci Fi appreciates that the crusader doesn't have superpowers and is more in the grounded vein of Iron Man and Batman. "It's not a guy in purple tights," Stern said.

"Riverworld" is considered to have the most series potential if producers pull off the novel's tricky combination mixing a modern protagonist with reborn historical figures.

"'Riverworld' has a little bit of everybody's' idea of heaven and everybody's hell," Halmi said of the setting.

Characters in the story's world will be portrayed by actors in their 20s, so somebody like Napoleon wouldn't be "a balding man with his hand in his coat."

"Part of the fun of this is the reveal of who each character is," said Stern, whose network previously took a crack at a "Riverworld" pilot some years ago.

"Alice" is planned for the winter; "Riverworld" and "Phantom" come out next year. RHI also is doing "Meteor" and "The Storm" for NBC in the summer. The Sci Fi backdoor pilots are part of RHI's effort to expand from movies to series programming.

"They're one of the few production companies that are still doing longform and really doing it well," Stern said. "They have an economic model that most of us are mystified about, the way they're able to fund their shows and make a deal very attractive for us."
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 23, 2009, 10:40:47 AM
Riverworld... I like that sci-fi is now remaking their own original movies.

Next up:  A remake of Submarine Shark Attack.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Sirharles on March 23, 2009, 12:28:52 PM
"Just when you though your nuclear sub was safe!"  Co-ordinated shark attack!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 29, 2009, 10:20:14 AM
You know what... I love HIMYM:


http://canadiansexacts.org
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Sirharles on April 01, 2009, 10:15:11 AM
Not really worth it's own thread, but The Haney Project is freaking hilarious.

http://www.thegolfchannel.com/haneybarkley/

Basically the worlds best golf coach is trying to teach Charles Barkley how to fix his swing.  Barkley is renowned for his horrific swing.  It's horrible, it looks like a chicken having a fit.  And Barkley is just sitting there seriously trying to fix his swing while all his friends are laughing at him.  He takes it really well and the show is quite funny.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 01, 2009, 10:52:46 AM
Having trouble playing the videos... But will get this into me when I get home.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 07, 2009, 11:41:13 AM
Sci-Fi (or Scy-Fy) continues to strip-mine BSG for it's new series.

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Sci Fi casts 'Riverworld,' 'The Phantom'
Trio join RHI movies being eyed as possible new series

Sci Fi has found lead actors for "Riverworld" and "The Phantom," its upcoming movie events that will serve as trials for possible new series.

"Battlestar Galactica" veteran Tahmoh Penikett and "Smallville" supergirl Laura Vandervoort will star in "Riverworld," and Ryan Carnes ("Desperate Housewives") has been cast as the Phantom.

Penikett is best known for playing Helo on "Battlestar." In "Riverworld," he will play war correspondent Matt Ellman, who is killed along with his fiancee (Vandervoort) but awakens in a mysterious world populated by everyone who has lived on Earth.

Alan Cumming is set to guest star as the Caretaker; Jeananne Goossen and Mark Deklin also have been cast.

In "Phantom," Carnes will play the well-known comic book hero, and Isabella Rossellini will guest star as the villainous Lithia, who is overseeing a mind-control experiment. Additional "Phantom" cast members include Cameron Goodman and Sandrine Holt.

"Riverworld" and "Phantom" will air next year as four-hour movies on Sci Fi. Both are from RHI Entertainment and began production Monday.

A third RHI project for the cable network, "Alice," will air this year.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 07, 2009, 12:08:19 PM
Man, Helo is a poor man's Nathan Fillion.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 07, 2009, 05:27:15 PM
Am I the only one interested in Krod Mandoon and the Flaming Sword of Fire? 

Previews now online (which I can't see at work):
http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/krod_mandoon/index.jhtml

The Firefly of my youth was Wizards & Warriors --

http://www.greatsociety.org/fpm/content/view/175/2/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizards_and_Warriors_(TV_series)

A hilarious, short-lived show that was the grandfather of stuff like Brisco County and Jack of all Trades. 

Keeping it in the not worth a thread because it probably sucks.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Nubbins on April 07, 2009, 05:30:46 PM
I almost posted a Krod Mandoon thread when I heard about this show a few weeks ago, but I started looking around for clips, saw the trailer and decided that the show looks... well, not that great.  I mean, I guess it could be okay, but my initial impression was that it reminded me of Robin Hood: Men in Tights.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 07, 2009, 05:36:53 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought.  Haven't seen anything on it besides all the blog talk.  How do the new clips look?
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Nubbins on April 07, 2009, 05:42:59 PM
Man, the commercial I saw for it was just straight up not funny.  I didn't really laugh at all.  But... it's got Matt Lucas in it, so that is enticing.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 10, 2009, 05:58:15 PM
Harper's Island --

Netflix has the first ep up:
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Harper_s_Island_Season_1/70112534

It's sort of like a not-weird Twin Peaks with bland actors written by Stephen King while he was waiting in the grocery store parking lot and talking on the phone about the possibility of writing the screenplay for Wrong Turn 3.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 23, 2009, 12:57:21 PM
I like how applying the BSG theme makes DS9 look good.  That's a hard thing to do!

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on May 19, 2009, 03:37:31 PM
Keeping up on the "shared time-period strategy" thing starting next season?  NBC is pioneering this scheme, with the idea of year-round new programming.  An end to the traditional September-May season as we know it.  And, supposedly, cutting down on the need for reruns and weird breaks midseason.

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A new "shared time-period strategy" which, along with five nights of The Jay Leno Show and the 2010 Winter Olympics, "allows the network to broadcast all-new content year-round," the network stated in a press release. The new strategy affects Heroes and Chuck, which will share Chuck's Monday-night timeslot at 8 p.m. Heroes gets fall, while Chuck will premiere in midseason after the Olympics.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on July 01, 2009, 11:31:24 AM
Yay!  I loved the 90's series, but it went to hell in a handbasket.  Now it not only gets a reboot, but Minear is behind it.

Also, don't watch the original series because it ends on an unresolved cliffhanger and you'll throw the DVD's into the river.

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Looks like another fan-favorite franchise will get the reboot: SCI FI Channel is developing a new version of Alien Nation, which originated as a 1988 movie written by Rockne O'Bannon and was spun off as a TV show and a series of TV movies.

Tim Minear—the writer/producer known to fans for his work on Angel, Firefly and Wonderfalls, among others—is writing the new take on the franchise, about the arrival of a group of refugee aliens and their integration into Earth's population, with the focus on a veteran police detective and his "newcomer" partner and family.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on July 01, 2009, 05:22:50 PM
Yay!  I loved the 90's series, but it went to hell in a handbasket.  Now it not only gets a reboot, but Minear is behind it.

Also, don't watch the original series because it ends on an unresolved cliffhanger and you'll throw the DVD's into the river.

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Looks like another fan-favorite franchise will get the reboot: SCI FI Channel is developing a new version of Alien Nation, which originated as a 1988 movie written by Rockne O'Bannon and was spun off as a TV show and a series of TV movies.

Tim Minear—the writer/producer known to fans for his work on Angel, Firefly and Wonderfalls, among others—is writing the new take on the franchise, about the arrival of a group of refugee aliens and their integration into Earth's population, with the focus on a veteran police detective and his "newcomer" partner and family.

Quiet Earth weighs in:


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Variety is reporting that writer/producer, Tim Minear (Firefly, Angel, Dollhouse), is writing a reboot of Rockne O'Bannon's Alien Nation for the SCIFI network.

"The new series is designed to take place in the 2020s, about 20 years after the first ship crashes on Earth, and will take place in the Pacific Northwest. The aliens will have multiplied to a population of about 3.5 million and would live in their own communities, analogous to the North African ghettos in France."

Says producer Chris Carlisle about the projetc; "It's absolute perfect timing for this type of show. They're looking for more grounded sci-fi and close-ended episodes, and at the heart of Alien Nation, it's a cop movie. It's grounded. And it has a tremendous amount of dramatic possibilities and humor."

Between this, ABC's V redux and the Peter Jackson produced District 9, we're certainly doing alright in the alien assimilation department.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on July 01, 2009, 08:48:38 PM
see, now that's a reboot with some class.  you could even get james caan to be in the pilot!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on July 10, 2009, 01:23:13 PM
this is for you, nacho. 

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on July 10, 2009, 03:59:55 PM
Great, now I'll be laughing during the climax of Pesthouse.

Franklin and Margaret, let's see what you have won.  It's fuel!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 29, 2009, 06:52:27 PM
Trailer for the new "Riverworld."

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on October 12, 2009, 10:46:16 PM
Am I crazy or did HIMYM add on an extra annoying laugh track this season?  Seems like I'm overly aware of it... Or is that just because the episodes are starting to suck mightily?
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 13, 2009, 10:05:00 PM
Yes, I think they did.  Also, this episode blew.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on October 13, 2009, 10:20:25 PM
Year number four of the tale of a douche and his soft-bellied wealthy friends!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on December 03, 2009, 08:06:45 PM
Dude... I am so downloading this:

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Steven Seagal Lawman - Steven Seagal has never sought publicity for his work with the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office. However, over a span of almost two decades, he has regularly gone out on patrol and worked major cases. The series will allow fans to ride shotgun with Seagal as he and his hand-selected elite team of deputies respond to crimes-in-progress. Then, when Seagal goes off-duty, the cameras will continue following him as he pursues his many ventures - including musical performances and philanthropic efforts - in Jefferson Parish and New Orleans

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From what I've read this sounds fucking hillarious.

he's apparently got "seagal vision" or some shit as he homes in on the suspicious activity of being black and wearing a long shirt.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on December 03, 2009, 08:34:52 PM
Wow...so, it's insane.  And it does have "Seagal Vision," where he'll zoom in on stuff like in Psych, complete with the highlighting of the detail and the funny sound.

Except it's just Cops, so the stuff he zooms in on is, you know, a black man.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on December 03, 2009, 09:33:51 PM
yes, in jefferson parish, all you need to look suspicious is to be black.  they really barely make any effort to disguise that fact.  "the JP" as they're called, are basically evil.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on December 03, 2009, 09:45:23 PM
Evil is the word.  And now you can rest easy knowing that a fat Steven Seagal is running around screaming "TASE HIM! TASE HIM!  TASE HIM!!!!"
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on December 03, 2009, 09:50:39 PM
Jefferson Corrections Officers Arrested (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2009/11/jpso_arrests_two_of_its_own.html)

Jefferson Parish Deputy Arrested for Traffic Stop Rape (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2009/11/jefferson_parish_deputy_booked.html)

Jefferson Parish Patrolmen Go Overboard at Traffic Stop (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2009/10/traffic_stop_in_marrero_mishan.html)

Jeff Parish Patrolmen know some seedy characters (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2009/09/post.html)

JP Arrested on Drugs Charges (http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/11/jpso_sergeant_arrested_on_drug.html)

And, my favorite:

Man Rapes, Impregnates Underage Girl, Still Manages to get Hired as a JPSO (http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2009/02/gretna_man_booked_with_rape_of.html)
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on December 04, 2009, 07:11:32 AM
Oh man... Awesome.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on December 05, 2009, 03:45:35 PM
Anybody watching White Collar?

Worth downloading?

I can no longer experiment as much because I use up all my credits forcing the NW to watch The Restaurant, History channel garbage, and long homemade footage of Nathan Fillion stripping.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Reginald McGraw on December 05, 2009, 04:36:42 PM
I'm vaguely aware of it as my wife watches it.  Nothing special.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on December 05, 2009, 08:29:29 PM
same here.  but it's on USA, so what do you expect?
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Matt on December 13, 2009, 09:58:03 PM
Is anyone watching The People Speak tonight on the History Channel? It's been amazing so far.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Matt on December 13, 2009, 10:22:41 PM
David Straitharn reading Eugene Debs and John Brown sends chills down my spine.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on December 14, 2009, 12:15:53 AM
i get the same way when Roberto Culesconi reads F.J. Dennis.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on December 28, 2009, 12:19:36 AM
Men of a Certain Age.

http://www.tnt.tv/series/menofacertainage/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242441/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_of_a_Certain_Age

With surprise (I hate Ray Romano) and pleasure, I'm glad to report that this show is awesome.

Or, at least, the first episode was great.  One of those slow-burner comedies. 

Braugher, as usual, dominates every scene.  Bakula seems to have been born again as an actor.  Romano is wisely toned down. 

I watched this just because Braugher was in it, but I was hooked within the first 10 minutes.  Really great fun.

Only three episodes so far.  We'll see if it holds up.  I would start watching the next episode, but I was floored to discover that the NW has never seen Andre Braugher in true form.  The Baltimore girl has never seen Homicide.  So I threw in season one episode one of that great grandfather of the gritty cop drama.  She's spellbound.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Nubbins on December 28, 2009, 01:54:59 PM
Ahh, I'm glad to hear this show is awesome.  I've been seeing the previews for months and wanted to check it out, but it's on opposite Monday Night Football and I don't have a freakin Tivo... and football always wins.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on January 04, 2010, 03:26:22 PM
Awesome!  Airplane repo man!

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Nick Popovich is a repo man. But unlike the kind that pulls up to your house in a tow truck to take your SUV, Popovich sneaks into airports and flies off in anything from a small Cessna to a 747.

In this economy, it isn't just the small loans that are being defaulted on, even the mega-wealthy with aircraft loans are failing to pay. And when you skip a few payments on your private jet, banks like Citi and Credit Suisse call Nick Popovich.

For anywhere between $600,000 and $900,000, he'll get your plane back - no matter what it takes. Obviously, TV producers find his world hugely entertaining - and the executive producer behind Dirty Jobs has managed to get Popovich to sign up for a reality TV show.

After reading about Popovich on Salon.com, this is one show I'll have set up in my TiVo. Stories of how he's been thrown in jail, or held at gunpoint should make for some really interesting TV. Of course, watching someone lose their private jet is also going be great entertainment. No schedule has been released for the new show, so keep a close eye on your local TV listings, we'll also try and keep you posted when we know which channel picks the show.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/06/06/lear_jet_repo_man/
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Nubbins on January 05, 2010, 05:37:58 PM
I just started watching Lost on Saturday... I'm already 3 episodes into season 2.  This show is like crack.  It's exactly the reason I've avoided any mention of it for so long.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on January 05, 2010, 05:52:22 PM
What's horrible is that the show gets bad.  Like, really, really bad.  But you keep watching because there are these little OMG moments that keep you in a sort of trance state for 14 episodes while nothing happens.

Season two is the beginning of the downfall.  Overall, an anti-climatic season.  Season three has tons of promise, and many awesome moments, but still manages to be a frustrating sitzkrieg. 

Season four starts to rock out and blows your mind here and there.

Season five is a total sci-fi freakout.  Really a reboot of the show (though much of the groundwork was put in during season four).  It's also just about the best season of anything I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Nubbins on January 05, 2010, 05:56:21 PM
Yeah, I really loved the first season.  It made me think of Heroes and The Prisoner all at the same time.  Season 2 starts off fantastic, so I'm kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop.  I just hope it's not one of those shows that winds up pissing me off so much that I just quit watching.
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Post by: nacho on January 05, 2010, 06:06:15 PM
You won't quit.  You'll complain.  You'll be pissed off.

But no one ever quits Lost.

The good news, for your darkest moments, is that you do have seasons four and five to look forward to.  So it's not like it sucks forever onward and you're stuck watching it because your brain died and you don't know better.
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Post by: nacho on January 05, 2010, 06:19:10 PM
Lost threads for Nubbins!

Season two:
http://www.greatsociety.org/forums/index.php/topic,694.0.html

Season three (the "Idiot Ball" season):
http://www.greatsociety.org/forums/index.php/topic,1575.0.html
(http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IdiotBall)

Season four (where hatred for the show turns into begrudging love):
http://www.greatsociety.org/forums/index.php/topic,3240.0.html

Season five (sex):
http://www.greatsociety.org/forums/index.php/topic,3685.0.html
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Post by: Matt on January 05, 2010, 07:09:35 PM
Nubbins, just so you know, I caught all up on season 5 now. non-spoilery things to watch for:

the way Jack does a headbob whenever someone questions his authority
the way Locke is smug and insufferable and whenever he thinks his wrists get all floppy
the way Kate is annoying and stupid
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Post by: Matt on January 05, 2010, 07:10:04 PM
basically the coolest people on the show are the Korean couple and the Iraqi.
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Post by: nacho on January 05, 2010, 08:00:17 PM
Yeah, you really start to hate Kate after a while.  Really.  Season five is all about how cool it would be if we could all line up and take turns strangling her.

But do you know who you start to love?

This thread is now about Elizabeth Mitchell.

(http://www.adn.es/clipping/ADNIMA20071015_2525/4.jpg)
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Post by: Matt on January 05, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
i love those pale soft breasts
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Post by: Matt on January 05, 2010, 08:10:31 PM
And it sucks because Evangeline Lilly has those cute lil' buckteeth and that rockin' bod but no. No. Shut up, Kate! Stop going back and forth between Sawyer and Jack, Kate!
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Post by: Matt on January 05, 2010, 08:11:25 PM
Nacho, I'll continue this in season 5 thread
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Post by: Nubbins on January 06, 2010, 02:32:33 PM
Yeah, I love the Kwons... they are definitely cool.

Hurley is still my favorite so far.  I really would like to punch Charlie in the teeth about half the time he's on screen and I'm more than a little bit glad that Boone and Shannon have "left" the island.

I think my favorite part of the show is watching for all the little, secret shit like Jack passing Shannon in the hospital right as she's finding out about her father.  It's cool how their lives were intersecting long before they all hit the island.

Also, Michelle Rodriguez is hotter than Kate, by far.
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Post by: nacho on January 06, 2010, 02:48:25 PM
Don't worry about Charlie.

And the intersection thing gets so insane.  Looking back on how it's been handled the last five seasons, I kind of like the direction they took.  It's the only thru-line in the show that makes sense, even with the retconning.
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Post by: Nubbins on January 10, 2010, 01:47:05 PM
Wow, season 4 bloooooooooows so far.  I don't know if I can do another 17 episodes of this shit.  3 was better than I expected and the episode where Hurley finds the van is my favorite of the series so far.

Every episode this season has been so formulaic, with the exception of the ones about Desmond.  Those have been fantastic.  It's just the writers going, "Ok, let's take all the characters and have them run around in the jungle on various errands, taking each other hostage, punching each other in the face and never accomplishing anything for the next 15 episodes or so.  Also, let's make Locke look like a total retard."
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Post by: nacho on January 10, 2010, 01:55:15 PM
That's Lost!

Season four picks up for an awesome finale arc.
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Post by: Matt on January 10, 2010, 02:00:55 PM
Locke is a total retard. I hate Locke.
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Post by: Matt on January 10, 2010, 02:01:23 PM
Lost is the kind of series where you can beat someone up, tie them up, shoot them in the shoulder, and count on them to do the same to you the next episode.
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Post by: nacho on January 10, 2010, 02:04:35 PM
Hell, Locke has the idiot ball for half of the show.  Though they (clumsily) retcon why that's the case in the 5th season. 
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Post by: nacho on January 10, 2010, 02:05:43 PM
Let's be honest -- Lost is a stupid show and the only reason people watch it is because we're being controlled, They Live style.
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Post by: Nubbins on January 10, 2010, 02:28:11 PM
Thematically, it is a cool show.  It's made me think of The Prisoner more than a couple of times, it's just not as well done.  Since season 1, I've kind of wondered if the entire thing is meant to be just a flash they are all experiencing right before the plane they are on crashes and they all die. 

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Post by: Nubbins on January 10, 2010, 02:29:35 PM
Awesome!  I forgot about the writers' strike!  That means season 4 is a short one.
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Post by: nacho on January 10, 2010, 07:05:22 PM
Thematically, it is a cool show.  It's made me think of The Prisoner more than a couple of times, it's just not as well done.  Since season 1, I've kind of wondered if the entire thing is meant to be just a flash they are all experiencing right before the plane they are on crashes and they all die. 



It got bad enough for Abrams to come out and say, no, this isn't it.

Season five finally goes a long way towards putting some pieces together.

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Post by: Nubbins on January 12, 2010, 05:13:52 PM
Alright... well, in a few days I'll be able to join the Lost threads proper... I'm halfway through season 5 now and it's a massive improvement over 3 and 4, for sure.

Also, has anyone invented a Lost drinking game yet?  I definitely have one.

1 shot of tequila every time someone is crying

1 shot of vodka every time someone is taken prisoner

1 shot of scotch every time someone gets punched or kicked

hammered in 5 minutes of any given episode.
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Post by: nacho on January 12, 2010, 05:17:47 PM
Also do a shot if Ben appears to be the architect (or a victim of) some sort of elaborate double/triple/or quadruple cross.

Chug if the actual architect is an immortal island creature wearing clothes from the Gap.

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Post by: Matt on January 12, 2010, 09:57:07 PM
Nubbins why does it have to be different alcohols? That's a recipe for disaster...Especially if someone's crying and getting punched (Jack, usually) or prisoners and punching tend to go together...
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Post by: Matt on January 19, 2010, 04:08:09 AM
Is anyone else following Californication?
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Post by: nacho on January 19, 2010, 08:05:02 AM
I am.  The tale of the most annoying family in the universe.
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Post by: Matt on January 19, 2010, 10:46:27 AM
I called it David Duchovny Fucks His Way Across SoCal, but same difference.
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Post by: Matt on January 19, 2010, 10:46:44 AM
Most of the times thing in the show make sense; the freakout over him and the girl didn't so much anymore.
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Post by: nacho on January 19, 2010, 10:57:12 AM
Yeah, I was so tired of the wife and daughter halfway through the first season.  I tune in for the drunken goofball moments and the tits.  When the family shit picks up, I let it play in the background and go to Google Reader.
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Post by: nacho on January 19, 2010, 06:22:40 PM
Eh...just a little oddity I ran across.  Star Trek footnotes.  Nichelle Nichols on how MLK made her keep playing Uhura.  Thought it was a fun story:

http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2010/01/18/martin-luther-king-mlk-uhura-nichelle-nichols/#more-21503

Though what it really does is make you realize how someone should take Rick Berman and shoot him for what he did to Star Trek.

I'll paste it below because that website looks wonky:

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“I hope you will get the story right this time, because for some reason, no one has ever gotten this story right,(laughs). I, after the first season, because my heart was still on Broadway and the performing arts part of me, the musical performing arts of me was yearning to leave. I never intended to be an actress other than in the theater. So for me, TV and movies, that was something to help me get from here to there. And so it was a shock for me to be cast in Star Trek . A shock and a joy. I was performing in England at the time of the inception of the show and my agent tracked me down in Paris and told me that they were doing a show called Star Trek, assuming that I’d know what that was. Because I’d been in and out of the country for so long.

Now I’d known Gene Rodenberry since he’d given me my first TV starring role in a show that he’d done called the ‘The Lieutenant’. And he was one of the first people of that stature that gave me encouragement. He called my agent and said can you find Nichelle, because I need her for a role in this show and  wherever she is, get her back here because I want a woman head of a department on the bridge. He changed the role from a man heading communications on the bridge and he wanted a woman of color. He wanted me and I came back and got the role. So the first year went by, and I enjoyed doing the role, to me at that time it was very challenging [laughs] but I played my role to the hilt, being the head of communications and all that and by this time the show had aired and I was starting to get notice and on the side I’m singing at places and people are hearing me and calling and I’m thinking, “Oh this is my big break! I have to leave this little show and go do it! I was thinking Broadway here I come!’

And so I went on a Friday evening shortly before the end of the season to let Gene know that I wouldn’t be returning to the show, he looked at me like I was crazy, “YOU CAN’T LEAVE,” but he realized how serious I was and he knew I was passionate about singing, and he said, “I know what your dream is and so forth but don’t you see what I’m trying to do? He said take the weekend and think about my decision and how important this show is and how it was a first and if I leave, well he didn’t know what to say, but he said take the weekend and that way I could take the time to really think about what we just said and come back Monday and we would talk about it and if you really want to leave then, you’ll go with my blessings, but realize I want you to know that what we are doing here is really historic. The next night was Saturday and I was due to be a celebrity guest on a dais at an NAACP fundraiser at UCLA.

One of the organizers came up to me and said that there was someone who wants to meet you; and he says that he’s you’re best, biggest fan and I’m thinking it’s a Trekkie! [laughs] and so I said certainly and I got up and turned around and maybe 10 or 15 feet coming towards me I see Dr. Martin Luther King and I remember thinking whoever that little fan is, he’s going to have to wait, because here’s Dr. King, who walks straight up to me with this big, magnificent smile on his face and says, “I’m the fan!” because I’m sort of looking around for someone else, and he says, “I am your best fan, I am your biggest fan!” and I… I was at a loss for words, and if you know me, I am never at a loss for words.

I just couldn’t say a thing and he began to tell me how important my role was, what an inspiration it was. And you have to understand we were in the middle of the Civil Rights Movement, people were regularly being attacked by dogs, and marchers were being hosed on the television every night, real life things, and here I am in this futuristic thing on TV and he was so complimentary, he told me “I was so important and the way you have created this role,” and I am just looking at him and looking at him and I remember I just kept hoping he’d never stop talking. Because his voice is just… you know the voice. And I finally just start saying, thank you so much Dr. King and I am shaking his hand and still shaking from nervousness and I said thank you so much and I am really going to miss my co-stars.

And at this his face totally changed, and he said “What are you talking about?!” and so I told him I would be leaving the show, because; and that was as far as he let me go, and he said, “STOP! You cannot! You cannot leave this show! Do you not understand what you are doing?! You are the first non-stereotypical role in television! Of intelligence, and of a woman and a woman of color?! That you are playing a role that is not about your color! That this role could be played by anyone? This is not a black role. This is  not a female role! A blue eyed blond or a pointed ear green person could take this role!” And I am looking at him and looking at him and buzzing, and he said, “Nichelle, for the first time, not only our little children and people can look on and see themselves, but people who don’t look like us, people who don’t look like us, from all over the world, for the first time, the first time on television, they can see us, as we should be!

As intelligent, brilliant, people! People in roles other than slick tap dancers, and maids, which are all wonderful in their own ways, but for the first time we have a woman, a WOMAN, who represents us and not in menial jobs, and you PROVE it, this man [Gene Rodenberry] proves and establishes a precedent that validates what we are marching for because three hundred years from today there we are, and there you are, in all our glory and all your glory! And you CANNOT leave!”

And I did not leave.

I went back on Monday and told Gene that if he hadn’t replaced me and still wanted me to stay that I would and I told him what Dr. King said, and I’ll never forget him sitting behind that big desk that he had and he said, “so that’s your decision?” And I said I’d like my letter of resignation back please and I told him what had happened while meeting Dr. King, and I don’t know if you know what Gene looked like, but he was a big guy and was like 6’3” with that hawk nose and a great sense of humor and this brilliant mind and a futurist and–whatever great things you heard about him are just a small part of what that man was. I looked down at him sitting behind his desk when I told him the story and I finally shut up, and a huge tear is rolling down his cheek. And he said, “Thank God someone understands what I am trying to achieve.” And he reached down into his drawer and pulled out my letter of resignation and handed it to me, it had already been [laughs] torn up.
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Post by: Matt on January 19, 2010, 08:30:05 PM
Fuuuuuck.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on January 19, 2010, 10:27:40 PM
That's an awesome story.
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Post by: nacho on January 21, 2010, 01:13:57 PM
The Questor Tapes just got the greenlight for a pilot (with Tim Minear tied to it.)

We know it as "Star Trek: The Next Generation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Questor_Tapes

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Post by: nacho on February 15, 2010, 09:43:17 PM
So...Drunk History has an HBO show!  No wonder they haven't updated in forever.

It starts February 19th, as part of the "Funny or Die" sketch show.

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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 16, 2010, 09:35:30 AM
That's awesome, but can it stay fresh?
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Post by: nacho on February 16, 2010, 10:25:38 AM
The trailer looks pretty awesome.  Will Ferrel as Lincoln!
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Post by: nacho on February 22, 2010, 12:00:48 PM
LOL


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Vancouver, British Columbia (CNN) -- Police are asking for public assistance in locating actor Andrew Koenig, who is best known for appearing in the 1980s sitcom "Growing Pains."

Koenig, 41, lives in Venice, California, but was visiting friends in Vancouver, police said in a statement Sunday. Friends last saw him on February 14. He was supposed to return home last Tuesday, and Vancouver police were notified Thursday that he had not arrived.

"Andrew has recently been despondent and his family and friends are concerned for his well-being," the police statement said.

Koenig was described as being 5 feet 5 inches tall and weighing 135 pounds, with brown shoulder-length hair and brown eyes, authorities said. Anyone with information on his whereabouts was asked to notify police.

Koenig appeared in 25 episodes of "Growing Pains" from 1985 to 1989, playing Richard "Boner" Stabone.
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Post by: Cassander on February 24, 2010, 09:47:58 AM
he's never gotten over the fact that a late-season, fresh blood character (Leo diCaprio) goes on to star in four straight Scorcese movies and he's turning tricks on Venice Beach.
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Post by: Cassander on March 31, 2010, 09:34:33 PM
http://vimeo.com/channels/thestate

Old unreleased "the State" sketches, or possibly calling card type sketches.  Not sure exactly, but most of them are hilarious.  Especially "Awkward", "Shop Class" "JFK", and "B52s".  Weird seeing all these people in their early 20s now...Lt. Dangle, the boss from Party Down, Michael Ian Black and Michael Showalter...a bunch of other people you'll recognize. 

also, what's weird is that 90s "edgy" has totally become dated and tame.
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Post by: nacho on April 08, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
http://www.kabletown.com/

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If you've been watching 30 Rock this season, you might be familiar with Kabletown, the fictional media company that is in the process of purchasing NBC on the show. If you've been paying attention to media news recently, you might be familiar with Comcast, the real media company that is in the process of purchasing NBC in real life. Art imitates life! Even when life is in a Brave New World state controlled by media monopolies! In an added twist, NBC has launched a Kabletown website that contains some jokes that are so over-the-top they would be hilarious, if they weren't describing a dismal media future that is all too imminent for NBC/Comcast. Looks like a fake website is covering a real merger in a more effective way than most news outlets. Thanks, Tina Fey?

From Josh Stearns of Stop Big Media:

    The [Kabletown] site exhibits classic “30 Rock” satire, but what is haunting is how close the biting humor comes to the real world. For example, in a nod to the anti-competitive nature of this deal, the site proclaims, “We at Kabletown know that the landscape of television is changing. Our goal is to evolve and adapt along with it, offering new ways for our customers to get their content. This acquisition will give Kabletown customers access to NBC content, plus content from the network’s cable properties.” Obviously, lacking here is content from any competitors.

Kabletown may be a funny joke about an NBC takeover, but our mass media reality is a lot less hilarious. Still, it's nice to see that when news organizations like MSNBC are choosing to gloss over what could be the largest media merger in history, we can always count on a sitcom to give it to us straight. Kind of.
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Post by: Nubbins on April 08, 2010, 05:39:26 PM
Since I got a DVR last month, I've started watching a bunch of shows I'd been missing out on, a lot of them are awesome (and mostly on the BBC America channel) and I may have brought them up in another thread or two...

The Inbetweeners - This is a fantastic show about a bunch of teenagers nearing the end of High School.  It's raunchy, disgusting and totally hilarious.  If you're looking for something cerebral, though, this probably isn't for you. 

Friday Night with Jonathan Ross - LOVE this show.  As far as talk show formats go, this guy absolutely destroys anything comparable on American late night television.  I highly recommend this one if only for the caliber of guests he's constantly able to churn up... Bono, Denzel Washington, Eminem... I think one of the other things that makes it great is just that he's a fantastic interviewer and seems to be able to get these people to open up in a way that you rarely see in America.  His interview with Eminem was fantastic and gave a lot of insight into what he's like as a person.

The Graham Norton Show - I'm sure lots of people here already watch this... I'd seen his program years ago when Dad was still living here, but I'm finally able to record it and watch it regularly.  Another late night personality that puts his American equivalents to shame... and that even includes Conan.  I think one of the great things about his show is that he brings all his guests out at the same time for a kind of round table discussion.  Besides, Graham is hilarious just being himself, the guests are just an added bonus.

Southland - This show was a victim of Jay Leno's short-lived 10pm slot.  NBC gave it the axe when he left late night and it hopped networks over to TNT.  It's about the LAPD and follows a bunch of cops doing their thing.  I've only seen 4 or 5 episodes, but I am totally hooked.  It's reminiscent of The Wire and other gritty cop dramas.  Also highly recommended.

Castle - Blows.  Completely gave up on it.  Avoid it at all costs. 

Leverage - Watched one episode and didn't really like it at all.  It's just too far fetched, even though Tim Hutton is a great actor.  I haven't given up on it yet, but if it doesn't improve then I will.

Peepshow / That Mitchell and Webb Look - These guys are at the forefront of British sketch comedy and I absolutely love them both (they were recently guests on Jonathan Ross as well).

Modern Family - This is one of those shows that my family and friends have been raving about.  I've recorded one episode which centered around the iPad and I wanted to blow up my TV set because a few of the characters were incredibly annoying.  Ed O'neill and his turbo hot Latina wife are pretty much the only reason to stay tuned... I'll give it a few more chances before giving up completely.
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Post by: nacho on April 08, 2010, 05:42:56 PM
The iPad episode of Modern Family is terrible.  Try some of the other episodes.  I love the show, actually, and thought it was brilliant up till that episode. 
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Post by: Nubbins on April 08, 2010, 05:46:26 PM
Yeah, I mean... part of that is that I just hate people who act like their birthday should be the biggest event in everyone's lives, so I immediately hated that guy from the start of the show.  Pretty much every scene with Ed O'neill had me laughing, though.  I loved it when his gay son came back to return the tool belt and get some self defense tips.
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Post by: Cassander on April 09, 2010, 10:48:08 AM
Modern Family is great.  Another ABC show people might have overlooked is Better Off Ted, which is now on Netflix as well.
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Post by: Nubbins on April 09, 2010, 10:56:09 AM
Community!  Just got an episode last night.  Newsflash: Chevy Chase can still be funny!

I love this show so far.  It is very funny and the writing is reminiscent of 30 Rock.  Check it out if you haven't.
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Post by: nacho on April 15, 2010, 05:43:08 PM
Dude... I am so downloading this:

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Steven Seagal Lawman - Steven Seagal has never sought publicity for his work with the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office. However, over a span of almost two decades, he has regularly gone out on patrol and worked major cases. The series will allow fans to ride shotgun with Seagal as he and his hand-selected elite team of deputies respond to crimes-in-progress. Then, when Seagal goes off-duty, the cameras will continue following him as he pursues his many ventures - including musical performances and philanthropic efforts - in Jefferson Parish and New Orleans

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From what I've read this sounds fucking hillarious.

he's apparently got "seagal vision" or some shit as he homes in on the suspicious activity of being black and wearing a long shirt.

Remember this?

Well, turns out that not only has he lost his "badge" and the show, but the boys are now putting him under investigation.

Everything tracks back to this story: http://savetheassistants.com/2010/04/13/do-not-ever-apply-to-be-steven-seagals-assistant/
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Post by: Cassander on April 16, 2010, 02:55:46 AM
quite a different story down here.   they're all gunning for him.  i don't want to get into all the bullshit about the current Jefferson parish sheriff.  to me, though, this just reeks of he said/she said.  suffice it to say...can any of us really put our noggins together and imagine that steven seagal is some kind of sex fiend? 
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Post by: nacho on April 16, 2010, 08:10:25 AM
quite a different story down here.   they're all gunning for him.  i don't want to get into all the bullshit about the current Jefferson parish sheriff.  to me, though, this just reeks of he said/she said.  suffice it to say...can any of us really put our noggins together and imagine that steven seagal is some kind of sex fiend? 

Or Carradine?
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Post by: Cassander on April 16, 2010, 10:48:41 AM
carradine didn't surprise me.  seagal has always seemed to me to be like a giant, gentle moose in a man's body.
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Post by: Nubbins on April 16, 2010, 11:20:03 AM
Ok, you guys are right... Modern Family is hilarious.

Phil is still a massive tool most of the time.  I am totally in love with Sofía Vergara.
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Post by: nacho on April 16, 2010, 11:58:43 AM
I haven't seen the latest yet.  Glad that the iPad episode is just a one-off fuck up.  Christopher Lloyd even apologized for it!

I also discovered, just today, the British Modern Family:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outnumbered

It's in season three.  The first episode was a little too cute, but the second one started to hook me...then I had to get ready for work.  It's a really weird hybrid of Modern Family's simple-syrup surrealism and the dry, subdued Brit-com style.
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Post by: Nubbins on April 16, 2010, 01:29:45 PM
I will have to check that one out too.  Is the American version based on the British one?

It is tough to imagine the show being as funny without Ed O'Neill... he makes the entire thing for me, particularly when he's interacting with his gay son.
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Post by: nacho on April 16, 2010, 01:39:42 PM
I will have to check that one out too.  Is the American version based on the British one?

I don't think so.  Outnumbered is just three kids and the parents (and, so far, an addled father who's been telephone only).  And there aren't the same relationships either (the kids aren't as likable/intelligent and the parents are ineffectual).  So it's similar in the way that all these shows, on the surface, look the same.


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It is tough to imagine the show being as funny without Ed O'Neill... he makes the entire thing for me, particularly when he's interacting with his gay son.

It's the ensemble that does it for me.  Yeah, O'Neill is the star...but they're all a great crew.
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Post by: Cassander on April 16, 2010, 01:42:25 PM
c'mon...Cam is hilarious.  and Manny.  I love Phil as well.  I think my favorite episode, if you guys haven't gotten to it yet, is the one where the Dunphys try to role play as strangers having an affair.
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Post by: nacho on April 16, 2010, 01:44:28 PM
Yes!  The role-playing episode was hilarious. 
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Post by: Cassander on April 16, 2010, 01:57:18 PM
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Post by: Nubbins on April 16, 2010, 02:13:59 PM
Yes!  I just watched the role playing episode.  Is that the one where Cam and Manny park their car on the giant, driveway turntable?  Cam slayed me that episode... he makes me think of Kyle from Tenacious D.
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Post by: nacho on April 16, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
I don't know, because all I can think about from that episode is a naked Julie Bowen trying to put on sexpot's coat whilst trapped in the escalator.
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Post by: nacho on April 19, 2010, 08:07:05 PM
Better off Ted is, so far, quite fun... Two episodes in.

Also, I retract all praise for Outnumbered.  Avoid it.
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Post by: Cassander on April 19, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
what? I liked episode 2.  that was the only one I saw though.  it turns sour?  That little girl is priceless.
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Post by: nacho on April 20, 2010, 08:32:16 AM
Yeah, the little girl is great.  It doesn't turn sour it just...never changes. And I started to hate the parents.
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Post by: nacho on April 23, 2010, 09:25:06 PM
Better off Ted is, so far, quite fun... Two episodes in.



Season one finished!  Amazing. And watch instantly on Netflix, so everyone should get it in them.

Downloading season two now.  Canceled with two episodes unaired... Sad.

And I found this:

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 28, 2010, 06:42:24 PM
Do we not have a current thread for The Office because it's gone on too long and we're all just watching it out of habit these days instead of enjoyment?

Anyway... Carrel just said that next season is his last.  Which means it's certainly time to end the show...and also means next season will probably be well worth watching.
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Post by: Nubbins on April 28, 2010, 08:56:52 PM
Yyyeah, I haven't watched it in ages.  I'm sure it's still funny, but the only episodes I ever seem to catch are the syndicated ones.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on April 29, 2010, 08:27:35 PM
or meet your new boss.....Jim Belushi!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Matt on May 03, 2010, 02:20:49 AM
Thank God someone's ending it.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on May 14, 2010, 05:08:06 PM
This is nice -- Six sci-fi shows ruined by their finales:

http://scifiwire.com/2010/05/6-classic-sci-fi-tv-shows-ruined-by-their-freaky-finales.php

Needless to say, spoilers ahoy!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on May 18, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
Yay!  A new western...and it sounds fun, too.

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AMC, which recently got into the zombie business, has ordered a pilot for another historical drama, though this one is set about a century before Mad Men. Hell on Wheels is a Western about the construction of the transcontinental railroad and takes place in the 1860s, which means it'll probably contain as much drinking as Mad Men, but significantly fewer sharp suits.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on May 20, 2010, 12:34:52 PM
Oh, look, they fucked with one of the greatest TV themes in history!

This fall's new Hawaii Five-0.  The theme is this terrible electronic version of the old one.  It's like they castrated the old theme and then made it dance on a table in front of perverts. And what's with the Police Squad! ref at the end?

That said... Daniel Dae Kim AND Grace Park?  Yes please. 

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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 20, 2010, 02:39:45 PM
Why guitars? They could could have "modernized" it yet left the horns in and it would have still been awesome.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on May 20, 2010, 02:44:39 PM
I'm just surprised Kim's name doesn't appear as "LOST'S Daniel Dae Kim!"
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on June 01, 2010, 03:00:54 PM
I...uh...wait, what?

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It looks like one J.J. Abrams spy series—NBC's Undercovers—might not be enough for him on TV this fall. Apparently, ABC is in talks with Abrams about rebooting his earlier TV spy venture, Alias, according to eonline.com's Kristin Dos Santos.

The new series would have some elements of the original that propelled Jennifer Garner to stardom. However, they'd skip the intricate mythology involving the Rambaldi prophecy.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on July 22, 2010, 01:23:29 PM
Okay, so, I'm liking Rizzoli & Isles.  It's nothing original or stunning.  I think I compared it to Cagney & Lacey elsewhere... Except a bit more hippy and new.  Kind of like Cagney & Lacey meets a less fanciful Bones.

Only two episodes so far and no problems.  I think the main key is the cast -- the two chicks are great, and Bruce McGill is in there.  They're doing the best with what (little) that they have.

Meanwhile, The Glades. The first episode was kind of fun, but the second episode already feels like more of the same. 

And I've deep-sixed The Gates.  That's pure crap.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on July 25, 2010, 12:58:40 PM
mid-summer introduction on ABC...how could that fail?
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on August 26, 2010, 02:09:07 PM
This is nice -- Six sci-fi shows ruined by their finales:

http://scifiwire.com/2010/05/6-classic-sci-fi-tv-shows-ruined-by-their-freaky-finales.php

Needless to say, spoilers ahoy!

Just re-read this.  Time for them to update with Lost!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on September 12, 2010, 12:09:08 AM
So I watched that stupid Nikita because I wanted to see Maggie Q run around in a bikini.

It's horrible.  It's sort of making itself out to be a sequel, I think.  It's six years later, Nikita is rogue and hiding out, and her handler has drafted a new teenaged girl named Alex.  The Nikita training camp is now Dollhouse.  In fact, it's all Dollhouse season 3.

For some reason, Nikita decides to come out of hiding and sets out to destroy the Dollhouse at the same time Alex is recruited.

So I guess it's a sequel to the TV series which was a remake of the movie which, itself, was a remake of a French film. And it feels exactly like that.  It's what I imagine the Ring TV series in Japan is like.  One huge WTF.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on September 12, 2010, 05:50:41 PM
yet somehow Jean Reno gets small royalty checks for every episode.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on September 12, 2010, 06:06:37 PM
Thread is now about Maggie Q.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on September 20, 2010, 02:26:11 PM
Oh, look, they fucked with one of the greatest TV themes in history!

This fall's new Hawaii Five-0.  The theme is this terrible electronic version of the old one.  It's like they castrated the old theme and then made it dance on a table in front of perverts. And what's with the Police Squad! ref at the end?

That said... Daniel Dae Kim AND Grace Park?  Yes please. 


LOL.  This looks about as painful as fucking a motorcycle exhaust pipe.

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on September 21, 2010, 01:25:15 PM
New show: Chase.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_%282010_TV_series%29

About to watch it now.  Prediction: I won't last 10 minutes. Though it sounds like it has promise...and interesting that the main girl is so heavily involved in the production, as well.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on September 21, 2010, 02:07:37 PM
Wow... Chase is like a sequel to US Marshals that's like every single other non-regular-police force show (NCIS, etc). 

But...at the 10 minute mark and still watching!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on September 21, 2010, 02:55:24 PM
Chase is ridiculous.  But, I don't know... Mindless fun. All according to formula.

Now I'm going to watch Hawaii 5-0! Angels and ministers of grace protect me...
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on September 21, 2010, 03:03:29 PM
Haha!  The first five minutes of Hawaii 5-0 are better than House, Castle, Chase, and...uh...the GI Joe movie combined.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on September 21, 2010, 03:47:07 PM
Oh man!  Color me surprised!  Hawaii 5-0 is awesome.

The whole concept is kind of retarded but, if you're willing to accept that the governor of Hawaii can create a special ops force that's above the law, it's great stuff.  We get GI Joe action, we get some pretty good muay thai, Grace Park gets naked every 5.7 minutes. You can't go wrong!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Sirharles on September 21, 2010, 04:20:06 PM
Oh man!  Color me surprised!  Hawaii 5-0 is awesome.

The whole concept is kind of retarded but, if you're willing to accept that the governor of Hawaii can create a special ops force that's above the law, it's great stuff.  We get GI Joe action, we get some pretty good muay thai, Grace Park gets naked every 5.7 minutes. You can't go wrong!

Oh good...I DVR'd it last night.  I'll watch it tomorrow.  I have no problem suspending my believe for that....it's better than what Bones is asking. :mccainface:
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on September 21, 2010, 05:10:13 PM
Man, don't even mention Bones.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on September 27, 2010, 12:20:18 PM
Blue Bloods -- the new Tom Selleck.  Who wa sit who told me to watch this?  It's a yawnfest.  Needs more Magnum and less boring police family with ridiculous passive-aggression/anger issues.  Hawaii 5-0 was more realistic than this show!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on October 04, 2010, 12:17:16 PM
Okay...so it's time to end 30 Rock and have a spinoff series with Dr. Spaceman.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on October 05, 2010, 09:42:13 PM
I would totally watch Dr. Spaceman, MD. 

Detroit 187 is horrible.  Like a police drama coloring book.  Connect the dots to find out why Detective Finch is angry!

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on October 11, 2010, 06:22:27 PM
Anyone else keeping up with Venture Brothers?  Do we have an old thread somewhere?

Season four is...well, magnificent. 
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on October 11, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
I paused the latest episode to post the above, then went and got lost on the net for awhile, and when I came back... Perfect pause!  Season four captured!

(http://www.greatsociety.org/uploads/userfiles/3/vb400.png)
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 13, 2010, 02:52:07 PM
Still no Space 1999 thread, eh?

Behind the scenes pics from the upcoming Blu-Ray release . . .

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47011 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47011)
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on October 13, 2010, 02:54:12 PM
Yet another DVD release!

For a second, I got excited about a remake...
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 13, 2010, 02:56:15 PM
Space, er, 2099?
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on October 13, 2010, 02:58:22 PM
Hey, why not?  Of course, I guess the first season was sort of remade as the new BSG. And the second season was remade as Voyager and Enterprise and the Stargate franchise.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on October 15, 2010, 10:56:44 AM
Wow...the 30 Rock live show is fascinating.  Leave it to them to turn a run of the mill live show into a weird sitcom experiment.

It's often lame, sometimes hilarious, and bizarrely self-conscious.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on October 28, 2010, 10:35:44 PM
The Office Halloween webisodes are funnier than the last couple seasons:

http://crushable.com/entertainment/video-the-office-halloween-webisodes
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 18, 2010, 07:16:31 PM
Did you not see this on your Blastr site, Nacho?

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13 awesome and awful pilots for sci-fi series we never got to see

Electra Woman and Dyna Girl! Red Dwarf!

http://blastr.com/2010/11/13-awesome-and-awful-pilo.php
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on November 18, 2010, 07:59:48 PM
I knew about Red Dwarf... And that pilot was awful.

But Electra Woman and Dyna Girl sounds great! I have them all on VHS! Electra-wow!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on December 06, 2010, 09:53:58 PM
Nice...

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A New Jersey-based film production company that traveled Route 66 earlier this year is taking its footage to an editing company to create a reality-based travel program, according to a news release over the weekend.

Vincent Cricchio of Vincent Video is consulting with Timeline Video on the editing. They plan to create a pilot episode to shop around to television networks.

From the news release:

    The most frequently asked question is, “what kind of show is this?” The series is a cross between a travel/ history/ reality show. Viewers will discover the history of the road as told by the people who live there, it will showcase where to sleep, eat and play. The show will reveal the talented people along the route by introducing the work of several mural artists, poets, authors and musicians. Some of the episodes will reveal romances that occurred on the old road while other episodes will present the mysteries of the old road. All episodes will display the excitement and adventure waiting behind every turn of Route 66 in a captivating and new approach!

    The common thread, besides the road itself, is the shows’ host Vinny and Holly. The series will follow Vinny and Holly as they start their Route 66 journey in Chicago and as they travel the old road across Americas’ heartland to the west coast. Some areas have as many of three old road alignments to choose from, but this series focuses on the oldest drivable alignments. Route 66 can take the form of a four lane highway, a narrow brick road or an old unpaved dirt road. This quality makes the old road as ‘diverse’ as the landscape and people it passes.

Cricchio said in an e-mail that he and Holly filmed 240 people during their Route 66 trip and shot about 300 hours of footage. They plan to whittle it down to 28 half-hour episodes.

I received a few e-mails from roadies who were stood up by Vincent Video during the production schedule. One could maybe attribute this small percentage of irked folks to misunderstandings. Or maybe the Cricchios decided to abruptly jettison a few interviews so they could stay on schedule. Or maybe the Cricchios were jerks that day. I don’t know.

I’ll reserve judgment until I see finished footage. Billy Yeager, the director and brainchild behind the in-production indie film “Jesus of Malibu,” seems to be a flake. But I also acknowledge the footage he shot around the Route 66 ghost town of Two Guns, Ariz., looks wonderful. Great art and/or entertainment can come from strange places and strange people.

However, once Vincent Video finishes the pilot, the hard part begins — selling the show to a network. I know of at least one professionally produced program filmed on Route 66, “Rhythms of the Road,” that was shopped around to no avail. It’s a tough market out there.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on December 06, 2010, 11:59:15 PM
Boston Legal sucks ass.  Thanks for mentioning it to my girlfriend, Nacho. 
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Reginald McGraw on December 07, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
Nice...

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A New Jersey-based film production company that traveled Route 66 earlier this year is taking its footage to an editing company to create a

Yes!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on December 22, 2010, 05:46:36 PM
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 23, 2010, 09:54:14 AM
Alf dropping the N-bomb is really disconcerting.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on December 27, 2010, 05:31:06 PM
So the guy Tim Roth plays in Lie To Me just called to renew for 2011.  Since Lie To Me is on watch instantly -- marathon on!
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Post by: Cassander on December 27, 2010, 09:35:05 PM
ugh.  Lie to Me is so awful. 
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Post by: nacho on December 27, 2010, 09:38:45 PM
The first two episodes were okay.  It's like The Mentalist.  Except, instead of a likable guy with some humanity, Roth is a rich shithead who seems awkward in every scene and lacks all humanity and believability.

Um... Oh.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on December 28, 2010, 02:38:39 PM
Wow...yeah, Lie To Me gets really old really fast. Couldn't make it past four episodes.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on December 28, 2010, 11:49:55 PM
lie to me would be tolerable if the production team knew they were making it for Showtime or even TNT, but because it's on fox it has to be AS MUCH LIKE HOUSE AS POSSIBLE plus A CUTE PRECOCIOUS TEENAGER.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on January 03, 2011, 08:15:57 PM
Lost Girl!

http://lostgirlseries.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Girl_(TV_series)

Whew boy...this is shitty Canadian...uh...shit.  But, after the first two episodes, I'm hooked.

I got turned onto this because all the Buffy people were ga ga about it.  And...all the True Blood people were also ga ga.  And... So were all the Angel people.

And, yes, it's all three of those shows rolled into one not quite neat package. It's also Harry Potter.


So the magical world is split into two factions -- "good" (sorta) and "evil" (more mean and angry).  Our hero is a rogue who doesn't understand what she is and falls in with these other "Fae" who are all freaked out to find a rogue.

There's what appears to be a third faction (that's largely part of the "good" folks) who are pleased/worried/watchful when our main girl declares herself neutral and turns her back on her people.

With her plucky sidekick human, she starts a PI firm and solves crazy-ass magical crimes, fighting demons and everything else.  What's really happening is that she's in the midst of a chess game where good is fighting evil and this possibly third party is trying to keep her identity and past a secret.

Highlights: Sideboobs, bad language, crippling Buffy/Angel flashbacks, and wondering what Daniel Radcliffe would do if he woke up in the middle of a True Blood episode.


Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on January 14, 2011, 12:00:30 AM
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ABC's long-gestating reboot of Charlie's Angels is a bit closer to reality today: The network has officially given the thumbs-up to producers Sony Pictures Television and Drew Barrymore to begin filming a pilot for the revival. Smallville vets Al Gough and Miles Millar are show-runners on the new Angels, which moves the action down to Miami. Casting sessions for Angels 3.0 (we're just going to forget about the pilot for Angles '88) began last week, with producers looking at both newcomers and more established actresses. Vulture hears one key part may already be filled, however: the voice of Charlie.

We've confirmed those Internet rumors that former Hart to Hart star Robert Wagner, who turns 81 next month, is in talks to serve as the Angels' unseen boss (the late John Forsythe was the original). We had been hoping the remake might utilize a more contemporary voice for the part (think Will Smith, or maybe even Barrymore). But our spies say that Wagner's casting is related to an old deal the actor had with original Angels producer Aaron Spelling that gave Wagner a stake in the Angels TV franchise. Wagner unsuccessfully sued Sony for a share of the profits from the movie versions of Angels, but he might have been able to make trouble for Sony had the studio tried to do a new TV version without his blessing. Paying Wagner to voice Charlie seems like a clever way to avoid any future headaches.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on January 14, 2011, 10:12:56 AM
Worst casting ever. He'll be dead two episodes in.
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Post by: nacho on January 15, 2011, 08:23:09 AM
Sounds...agonizing!

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Boom! Buffy the Vampire Slayer fans may now officially start foaming at the mouth: Sarah Michelle Gellar is coming back to TV, and she's ready to kick some ass again. Vulture has learned that CBS just gave a pilot greenlight to Ringer, an hourlong thriller that will star the ex-Slayer as a troubled young lass on the run from the mob. She assumes the life of her wealthy twin sister, only to find out that said sibling has a bounty on her head as well. If we're understanding this right, SMG will actually get to play both roles, which could be all sorts of fun. Ringer is from Supernatural writers Eric Charmelo and Nicole Snyder; Gellar will serve as a co-executive producer on the project, which is being produced by ABC Television Studios and CBS Television Studios. It's Gellar's first TV show since Buffy left the air in 2003. She had been attached to an HBO project that didn't work out and has mostly been focusing on features in recent years.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on January 15, 2011, 09:34:48 AM
Uh... yeah..Boom!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on January 18, 2011, 07:45:03 PM
More on Being Human:

The reason I gave it a second chance was because everyone was jabbering about how the series took a turn towards the darker side as of episode five (building up for the finale).  Just finished episode five and, yes, this show is the shit.  After four episodes of cheesy nothing, which still managed to build up our characters, episode five does see a shift towards awesomeness.  And also makes a ref to the new Doctor Who and the old Sapphire and Steele, the latter of which is hilarious. 

So, yes, get into Being Human.

Well, since this post in 2009, I gave up on Being Human.

But...I'm watching the US remake's pilot now.  It's just as bad as the UK version, but, strangely, it's more likable. I don't know why.  The characters are all more approachable and enjoyable.  Their UK versions made me want to crawl through the screen and start stabbing them with a sharpened spoon.
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Post by: nacho on January 18, 2011, 08:10:53 PM
More on Being Human:

The reason I gave it a second chance was because everyone was jabbering about how the series took a turn towards the darker side as of episode five (building up for the finale).  Just finished episode five and, yes, this show is the shit.  After four episodes of cheesy nothing, which still managed to build up our characters, episode five does see a shift towards awesomeness.  And also makes a ref to the new Doctor Who and the old Sapphire and Steele, the latter of which is hilarious. 

So, yes, get into Being Human.

Well, since this post in 2009, I gave up on Being Human.

But...I'm watching the US remake's pilot now.  It's just as bad as the UK version, but, strangely, it's more likable. I don't know why.  The characters are all more approachable and enjoyable.  Their UK versions made me want to crawl through the screen and start stabbing them with a sharpened spoon.

Oh, and, the vampire's watcher (one of them) is Jacob from Lost! And they play that up.  He's also a vamp and he glamors people by touching them Jacob style so every Lostie watching goes "Hehehehhe.  Jacob!"

I like how all the Lost alum are being used to float terrible television series.  They're not even trying to make them the lead.  Hawaii 5-0, this show.... The Lost people have, apparently, been cast to turn towards the camera and pull a Troy McClure, "Hi!  You might remember me from Lost!"
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Post by: nacho on January 21, 2011, 08:35:22 AM
Wow...are we all so tired of The Office that we didn't bother making a season 7 thread?

I know I am... But Michael leaves next week, and Gervais gets a cameo, and it's all going to crash and burn.

I just wanted to say that I really liked the idea of a happy and a sad box each filled with crucial supplies.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on January 21, 2011, 03:21:14 PM
Nacho and I geeked over this via email this morning, but it's worth a read. And written by a college sophomore which makes me realize how much I've wasted my life.

http://dailytrojan.com/2011/01/20/tv-shows-reluctant-to-accept-sci-fi-title/ (http://dailytrojan.com/2011/01/20/tv-shows-reluctant-to-accept-sci-fi-title/)

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TV shows reluctant to accept sci-fi title

Brannon Braga, writer and executive producer of the upcoming television series Terra Nova, which is about people who travel back in time, recently said that his show was not really science fiction, even claiming that it has less science fiction elements than the earlier seasons of Lost.

Really? A television series about people from the future who travel to a human colony in the prehistoric era? A series whose executive producer, Steven Spielberg, is responsible for some of the biggest science fiction movies of all time?

And coming from Braga himself, who was an executive producer for Star Trek: Voyager, Star Trek: Enterprise and the short lived sci-fi series Threshold and Flashforward.

Oh, Terra Nova’s totally not a science fiction TV series.

This odd attempt to play down the science fiction elements of a show is nothing new in the television world.

For years, the producers of Lost denied that it was a science fiction program. It wasn’t until the fifth season, when the elements became too obvious to veil, that the producers admitted that the show had ventured into sci-fi territory.

In response to the recent arguments about Terra Nova, Lost producer Damon Lindelof tweeted a revealing message.

“Sigh. I remember when we denied being a sci-fi show, too.”

It seems that these attempts to downplay or dispel any notion of a show containing science fiction elements are purely to attract a wider audience, as if the very idea of a show being science fiction is a mass deterrent. The growing number of shows denying the genre indicate that something about sci-fi does not sit well with those who work on the show, despite an overtly sci-fi subject.

Many creators are afraid that audiences will simply see an ad for their show and lump it among generic sci-fi. One problem many viewers and creators have is that they associate science fiction with the typical image of lasers, spaceships, aliens and other Star Trek/Star Wars-esque tropes, ignoring any other possibility for a sci-fi story. For some reason, Braga is afraid of Terra Nova being seen as just that.

For some reason, any show dealing with science fiction, fantasy or anything supernatural or speculative is filed under the sci-fi label. It’s a somewhat demeaning term, crowding all of those shows together. Is The X-Files the same show as Stargate: SG-1? No. Why, then, are they both put under the banner of genre TV?

This fear and marginalization of “genre” shows seems to miss out on what science fiction does and why it’s popular in the first place. At its best, science fiction takes its protagonists into unfamiliar situations beyond the perceived normal, isolating the person and delving into what makes the human mind tick.

The seminal science fiction writer Isaac Asimov summed up science fiction’s potential rather well in The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction: “Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today — but the core of science fiction, its essence, the concept around which it revolves, has become crucial to our salvation if we are to be saved at all.”

What’s most perplexing about rejecting the sci-fi genre is that, at the same time, there are so many shows that are embracing their science fiction or fantasy elements.

Fringe, now in its third season, is based entirely on bizarre and fictional science elements. Other shows like V and the soon to be released Falling Skies, also produced by Spielberg, are based on the premise of an alien invasion. True Blood is one of the biggest shows on cable, and what is it about? Vampires and werewolves. And it’s still going strong even after the Twilight backlash kicked in.

Producers should not be afraid of the science fiction label. The success of some of these science fiction-embracing shows proves that audiences are open to a wider range of television than one might suspect.

Unfortunately, networks and television stations today do not appear to realize that. The disdain for “genre shows,” shows that are grounded in the fundamental tenents of their genre, is an odd bit of obliviousness, considering how many shows on the air today could be labeled as stale byproducts of their genre.

Right now there are innumerable television shows that fit neatly into one genre. There are reality shows, sitcoms, dramas, horror stories, “docu-soaps” and enough medical and police procedurals to drive a person mad.

That a show must deny its identity to today’s audience makes no sense.

How Terra Nova fares will depend on its acting, scripts and production, not its existence as a science fiction show. It’s time for those behind the wheel to realize that.

Nicholas Slayton is a sophomore majoring in print and digital journalism. His column, “Age of the Geek,” runs Fridays.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on January 31, 2011, 01:21:44 PM
I got into Prison Break simply because the whole series came up watch instantly.

It's actually quite good for retarded, candy TV.  A slightly more intelligent version of 24 with less running around.

The big problem is that it begs for a 13 episode season. If the first season had been 13 episodes, it would have been amazing. Instead, it's 22 episodes... So we have enormous amounts of padding, and entire episodes about the characters past lives...which is stupid because we got all that in all he flashbacks and so on as we padded our way through the season.  Plotline B, outside of the prison, is a horrible mess. Proven in the first episode of season two where the writers brutally kill everybody that wasn't working in the first season.

Season two, so far, is a great improvement.  It's a low-rent take on The Fugitive, though there's much less focus. They're having trouble deciding whether or not the goal is to get to Panama, get DB Cooper's money, or rescue the idiot kid. So they're setting us up, again, for padding... But at least they're out and running around so there's no twiddling our thumbs with Plotline B.

Plotline B still exists -- the Illuminati are running the Presidency and they set up our main guy as a patsy. There's a feeble desire to unearth this conspiracy, but that's a bit too sophisticated for the writers.  I get the feeling they're just going to spend all of season two running across America and fucking with the characters.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 01, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
I got into Prison Break simply because the whole series came up watch instantly.

It's actually quite good for retarded, candy TV.  A slightly more intelligent version of 24 with less running around.

The big problem is that it begs for a 13 episode season. If the first season had been 13 episodes, it would have been amazing. Instead, it's 22 episodes... So we have enormous amounts of padding, and entire episodes about the characters past lives...which is stupid because we got all that in all he flashbacks and so on as we padded our way through the season.  Plotline B, outside of the prison, is a horrible mess. Proven in the first episode of season two where the writers brutally kill everybody that wasn't working in the first season.

Season two, so far, is a great improvement.  It's a low-rent take on The Fugitive, though there's much less focus. They're having trouble deciding whether or not the goal is to get to Panama, get DB Cooper's money, or rescue the idiot kid. So they're setting us up, again, for padding... But at least they're out and running around so there's no twiddling our thumbs with Plotline B.

Plotline B still exists -- the Illuminati are running the Presidency and they set up our main guy as a patsy. There's a feeble desire to unearth this conspiracy, but that's a bit too sophisticated for the writers.  I get the feeling they're just going to spend all of season two running across America and fucking with the characters.
 


Man...season two has been great for 14 episodes so far.  The eight escaped cons are all on the run, with their own subplots to tie up. Meanwhile, the main plot is slowly and expertly developed -- the "Company" hunting our heroes.

All of it with a wonderful hunt for DB Cooper's money, which they find after 7 episodes, but then it changes hands as everyone double crosses each other, and through simple bad luck. So there's this light-hearted sort of MacGuffin with the DB Cooper fortune that keeps the plot moving and shifting between characters.

As we move into the final act for the season, the battle against the Company takes center stage. It's basically a generic 24 plot, but somehow feels fresh.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 03, 2011, 02:44:28 PM
Season three of Prison break (the shortened writers strike season) is horrible... The whole thing feels like it was improved, a stand-in is used for one of the main characters who was written out (and she's beheaded early in the season).  Wiki says that her death is retconned at the start of season four due to "fan backlash."  Man... What a fucking trainwreck.

The thing is, season two is excellent all the way through. And it's set up in a way that sort of makes you think it was supposed to end there. Then there's this bizarre subplot that almost feels like they went back and re-edited the last four episodes to set up a hook for season three.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 07, 2011, 03:57:05 PM
Can't physically bring myself to start Prison Break season four. So that's the end of a mini-marathon! Now I'm just going to clear out my watch instantly queue with a sort of glazed-eyed mindlessness.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 12, 2011, 11:23:48 PM
So...if you're asking me, the US Being Human is far better than the last two seasons of the UK version.

Cass?  Now that I'm back home with you, I see you posting in the Being Human threads.  Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on February 13, 2011, 11:41:28 AM
Back home with me?  Are you under the couch?  Where's my cereal?

Being Human sucks.  I think.  Is that the show about a ghost, a vampire, a werewolf, and a rabbi struggling to make ends meet?
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 13, 2011, 12:00:17 PM
Wait...you're not who I think you are at the other site, then.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on February 13, 2011, 12:08:17 PM
ah! I see.  that's because L takes liberties. 
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 13, 2011, 12:20:18 PM
That explains quite a bit, actually.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 14, 2011, 05:44:10 PM
Some TV history... A long and convoluted Wikipedia clickfest finally landed me on a page about the "rural purge":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_purge

Seemingly suicidal, the networks decided to cancel all of their popular rural-based shows (such as Green Acres, Petticoat Junction, Mayberry RFD, etc) to make room for saccharine "urban" shit (Good Times, The Jeffersons,  etc).
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 14, 2011, 05:58:14 PM
There you go. That's why show business is totally insane.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 18, 2011, 10:20:37 AM
Wow...are we all so tired of The Office that we didn't bother making a season 7 thread?

I know I am... But Michael leaves next week, and Gervais gets a cameo, and it's all going to crash and burn.

I just wanted to say that I really liked the idea of a happy and a sad box each filled with crucial supplies.

Well...just when I was about to give up on the Office, we get "Threat Level Midnight."  Best episode in years.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on February 18, 2011, 01:08:23 PM
I was going to put this in the Caprica thread because Slave Leia is played by the lead girl from Caprica...and seeing her in that outfit really makes me want to just blankly watch the show.

But I decided on this thread since it's one big cult-culture freakout.

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Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 01, 2011, 01:34:16 PM
I agree with all of these...

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/02/get-a-room-in-another-dimension-the-most-obnoxious-couples-in-science-fiction-a-fantasy
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 01, 2011, 03:58:26 PM
How come the Thundercats remake looks like it's from 1988?

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I like the new Cheetara, though.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 04, 2011, 12:59:55 PM
The Tron TV series:

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 05, 2011, 07:27:11 PM
I'm not really an anime guy, but I'm totally absorbed in this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes

It's an epic space opera based on a series of novels. The main story revolves around two commanders on opposite sides who catapult through the ranks Horatio Hornblower style. The two are pitted against each other in the midst of a sort of forever war between an autocratic empire and a jingoistic, corrupt democracy, though neither are particularly loyal to their side. They're just soldiers doing their job.

It's surprisingly well done.

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 06, 2011, 10:37:09 AM
I am ashamed to admit that I've gotten hooked on Spartacus.  It's really a weirdly perfect balance of storytelling. Amidst the CGI and hilarious blood splatter affects, it's surprisingly historically loyal. Not like Rome, but, still...

And the sex and nudity is really strange. You'll see a dozen cocks and more man ass than you can shake a stick at each episode but that's fine because you also see at least a dozen extraordinarily beautiful women -- including Lucy Lawless -- walking around naked and getting fucked in ways that border on pornographic.

As far as storytelling, they have all the hooks. Romance, intrigue. There's almost a sort of murder comedy caper aspect, like Arsenic and Old Lace, as the season goes on. You find yourself watching just to see how badly Lucy Lawless is going to fuck up next as the bodies pile up.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 21, 2011, 02:28:41 PM
In the bullshit department:

http://blastr.com/2011/03/bbc-sued-over-doctor-who.php

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Over the years, Doctor Who has faced many enemies, including Cybermen, Daleks, the Master and the Weeping Angels, but none stood above the others in ruthlessness and scariness as much as ... a lawsuit involving the scariest villain of them all, Davros.

A man named Steven Clark, 51, claims that the evil and devious Davros was his own creation and not Dalek creator Terry Nation's.

At age 13, in 1972, Clark entered a contest run by the now-defunct comic book TV Action to create a supervillain. Clark wrote an essay and sent in a pencil sketch, which he entitled "The Genesis of the Daleks: The Creation of Davros."

The drawing clearly shows a half-man half-Dalek with a microphone and a headset and a third eye on his forehead. He also has epaulettes as well as a withered left hand hidden behind his console. Very much like the Davros we all know and love.

The contest was judged by a panel that included actor Jon Pertwee (who played the 3rd Doctor at the time), script editor Terrance Dicks and producer Barry Letts.

Steven Clark didn't win the contest—which was surely a disappointment for the young teenager—but three years later he saw his own creation on TV in a Doctor Who episode titled "The Genesis of the Daleks"!

And now, after four decades, Clark has decided that enough is enough and has begun legal proceedings to sue the BBC and BBC Worldwide, who, he claims, have been using the character he has created without his permission all this time.

But why did Steven Clark wait that long to get his rights officially recognized?

Apparently, Clark had lost all the drawings he made and was unable to pursue a copyright claim. When he found them again in the 1990s, he thought it was too late.

As for why he's doing this now, Clark says, "The money aspect of it is not my primary motivation. I am proud of the character I created, and I just want my work to be recognized. It would be nice to be finally linked to the character after all this time."
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 25, 2011, 01:09:14 PM
Yay!

The way last night's episode went, I figured they were going to just go as far as they could in a final blaze of glory.

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There's no crisis at ISIS: FX's bitingly adult spy comedy Archer is set to return for a third season — and maybe longer. Vulture has learned that negotiations are well under way on a deal to renew the Thursday-night animated half-hour, possibly in time for next week's FX upfront presentation to advertisers. Talks have been going on for a couple weeks now, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Our spies are hinting that the extended negotiations could — and let's underline could — be a sign that FX may be discussing the idea of a multi-year renewal for the Adam Reed–created animated show. There's no guarantee that's what'll happen, but given FX's three-year renewal of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia back in 2008, there's certainly precedent. Whatever shape the deal ultimately takes, it's no surprise that FX wants more Archer: The series did decently in the ratings during its first season, and has only grown during season two. So far, its viewership is up nearly 20 percent since returning in January, and that's despite facing increased comedy competition from NBC's 30 Rock. Archer has also been a critical darling, part of a comedy surge at FX pioneered by Sunny and augmented more recently by Louie and The League. The good news on Archer comes in the wake of FX's Thursday announcement that it was killing Lights Out after one season, as well as a report on Deadline that FX drama Justified is also closing in on a Season 3 pickup.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on March 25, 2011, 01:36:43 PM
Are you watching Justified?  It's great.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 25, 2011, 01:55:26 PM
I couldn't get into the first season...
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on March 25, 2011, 02:03:28 PM
oh, yeah I forgot.  There's no lasers in it!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 25, 2011, 02:04:49 PM
I watch plenty of shows without lasers!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 29, 2011, 01:25:17 PM
I'm watching Tales of the Gold Monkey for the first time since 1982.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_the_Gold_Monkey

It's not as awesome as I thought it was when I was eight. But it does open up with Nazis executing orangutans.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 31, 2011, 11:16:58 AM
Um...

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Details of Arnold's first post-governorship job were supposed to be announced at Cannes, but Entertainment Weekly jumped the gun with their upcoming cover. Turns out, it's a cartoon called The Governator, which will embellish Schwarzenegger's real life; in this reality, he becomes a crime-fighting superhero after leaving office. Stan Lee will be masterminding the project, which is slotted for next year and has not yet announced its network. Explains Arnold: "[This cartoon] brings everything together. It combines the governor, the Terminator, the bodybuilding world, the True Lies … ”
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on March 31, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
ugh.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 02, 2011, 04:52:19 PM
One of the big selling points for Spartacus was Lucy Lawless doing full frontal, in your face, freakout nudity.

Now Camelot is the new champion for Starz, and they've upgraded their female lead. We get full frontal nudity freakout with... Eva Green.

Thank you, Starz!

Oh, and, Claire Forlani. It's like trading a nude Yugo for two nude Jaguars!

Also, it's got Sean Pertwee, Joseph Fiennes, and James Purefoy in it. So there's this bloc of awesome tough guys supporting two girls who look very good naked.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 04, 2011, 08:13:27 AM
Watching AMC's "The Killing" now. Based on the Danish show of the same name and starring every B-list actor from BSG and Stargate.

I want to know how this is an AMC "original series" when it's a shot-by-shot, word-by-fucking-word, episode-by-episode copy of the Danish version? I mean, complete carbon copy...with almost non sequitur Twin Peaks-style things slipped in to make up for the fact that Vancouver doesn't look like Denmark.

Whenever they do these shot-by-shot remakes I feel like I'm watching some fan-made movie.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 05, 2011, 02:14:00 PM
Um...

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Details of Arnold's first post-governorship job were supposed to be announced at Cannes, but Entertainment Weekly jumped the gun with their upcoming cover. Turns out, it's a cartoon called The Governator, which will embellish Schwarzenegger's real life; in this reality, he becomes a crime-fighting superhero after leaving office. Stan Lee will be masterminding the project, which is slotted for next year and has not yet announced its network. Explains Arnold: "[This cartoon] brings everything together. It combines the governor, the Terminator, the bodybuilding world, the True Lies … ”

THIS IS FOR CASS!


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Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on April 06, 2011, 12:24:06 AM
sometimes I think...."Would it have been so bad if we had lost the Cold War?"
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 06, 2011, 10:46:23 AM
sometimes I think...."Would it have been so bad if we had lost the Cold War?"

Because then we'd have a sedate media, we'd all have a rat-trap apartment in some giant complex, we'd be gainfully employed...and we'd rush home to our six-channel TV and watch "The Premieranator."
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on April 06, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
Not become Soviet, just...not won.  Gotten a little hangdog.  Because Arnold really is the American Dream gone absolutely batshit insane on PCP.  Also, I noticed there are laser blasts in the trailer.  I assume you'll be ready with your popcorn as soon as they find a network!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 07, 2011, 07:08:35 AM
Why are you so mean to me?
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 10, 2011, 08:41:00 PM
One of the big selling points for Spartacus was Lucy Lawless doing full frontal, in your face, freakout nudity.

Now Camelot is the new champion for Starz, and they've upgraded their female lead. We get full frontal nudity freakout with... Eva Green.

Thank you, Starz!

Oh, and, Claire Forlani. It's like trading a nude Yugo for two nude Jaguars!

Also, it's got Sean Pertwee, Joseph Fiennes, and James Purefoy in it. So there's this bloc of awesome tough guys supporting two girls who look very good naked.

Episode three -- now I'm just skimming through looking for tits. The show's a terrible, stupid mess.

I see their mistake -- Spartacus wowed you because they beat the shit out of each other every five minutes. In Camelot, they're going for the full-on 110% emo approach to the Arthur legend. So it's love triangles and angst and angry siblings and magicians who don't say what they need to say at the right times and goodnik knights flouncing around being perfect saints.

All the things that make you want to throw Arthur stories out the window.

The thing they should have done is the Bernard Cornwall approach to the story. A more historical Arthur -- some savage Romano-Brit trying desperately to hold out against the relentless advance of the Saxons/Angles/Jutes. Then you've got politics and swordplay and hordes of crazy savages and the weird hybrid of Romanesque and barbarian fighting styles. You can throw in Merlin and all that, but make him more like The Mentalist than anything else.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 11, 2011, 02:00:23 PM
Did I know that they were remaking 21 Jump Street?

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Have you reached the James Franco saturation point for a little while? Good news: Dave Franco, the actor-writer best known for his work as James Franco's Equally Hot Brother, will play Eric, a villain-slash-drug dealer who's also "the most popular kid in school," obviously, in Phil Lord's and Chris Miller's upcoming 21 Jump Street remake. Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum will co-star as undercover cops who infiltrate Eric's high school. Johnny Depp is also in talks for a cameo. Anyway, "handsome drug-dealing douche bag" sounds like the perfect part for the burgeoning Franco.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2011, 11:18:48 AM
We really are living in the final days of the republic...


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Discovery Communications, which owns the Discovery Channel, TLC, and Animal Planet, among other stations, will launch a new dude-oriented channel called Velocity later this year, where they'll air a slew of car- and sports-themed shows. (Fret not, ladies: Investigation Discovery's crime shows will keep you company.) The new channel will target men aged 35 to 54 who make over $150,000 a year, whom the soon-to-be VP of the channel described as "pressed for time[;] they're achievers, they work hard and play hard, and they're consumers of high end and luxury goods." Finally, something for them.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 14, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
Yes. Finally, something for them.

*adds "blow up Discovery Communications building" to bucket list*
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2011, 11:22:57 AM
Yes. Finally, something for them.

*adds "blow up Discovery Communications building" to bucket list*

These are the demands and sayings of Lee!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 14, 2011, 11:24:54 AM
I figure if we can get on an FBI watch list, it'll be good for hits.
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Post by: nacho on April 14, 2011, 11:26:08 AM
I figure if we can get on an FBI watch list, it'll be good for hits.

Google Analytics suggests that the best bet for hits is to talk about nude scenes involving Eva Green and Sherilyn Fenn.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 14, 2011, 11:29:32 AM
You mean this:

Eva Green & Sherilyn Fenn Lesbian Freakout! Strap-On Bonanza with Ass to Mouth Action!!!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2011, 11:31:17 AM
Oh, look. An animated TV show gif clearing house:

http://www.randomtuesday.com/archive/?dir=./Battlestar%20Galactica/Season%204/401

That link is for BSG, in case you need 18 gigs of Katee Sackhoff covered in sweat and dirt. The site has gifs for just about every show.

You mean this:

Eva Green & Sherilyn Fenn Lesbian Freakout! Strap-On Bonanza with Ass to Mouth Action!!!

Include "picture set" and "torrent" in that. Of "free torrent." Or, you know, "eva green download."
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2011, 11:37:00 AM
Links also work. Like: Free Eva Green rape scene group sex download (http://ningenmanga.com/), or Sherilyn Fenn twin peaks girls porn (http://www.sfwp.com/the-books), or leaked screening copy of harry potter deathly hallows pt 2 (http://www.greatsociety.org/).
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Cassander on April 29, 2011, 01:11:52 PM
Cheers is watch instantly now.  I think I know what I'm watching at breakfast for the next three months!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2011, 01:14:06 PM
Youtube's got all the complete episodes of "Carrier." That's what I'm watching.

All 5000 sailors die at the end, right?
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2011, 05:54:44 PM
I guess this belongs in here... Thought about putting it in Youtubin! The entire series is up (episode one below).

Anyway... "Carrier" was a PBS series -- ten episodes -- that followed a handful of folks on the USS Nimitz -- from lowly shitheel cooks up to the XO. There's a fair bit of jingoism in the first half of the first episode, but then we move into a surprisingly even-voiced documentary. The Nimitz is basically a floating city -- 5200 crewmembers. The majority of enlisted folks are between 18-21. There's a fascinating dystopian undercurrent once you get that fact in mind... I almost bailed on the first episode during the "play country songs and glorify jet fighters" sequences, but I'm glad I stuck with it because they worked their way down to the people who aren't happy, and say so. Or the ones who feel trapped, or are fleeing broken childhoods and lives. There's a startling tension that works through an otherwise simplistic documentary. And, even if all that sounds boring, it's just really neat to see the inner workings of an aircraft carrier at sea. These are magnificent ships... And, as a unit -- men and machines -- they're magnificent weapons.


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Post by: Cassander on April 30, 2011, 12:52:03 AM
i already feel sorry enough for the armed forces...do i have to watch this?
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Post by: nacho on April 30, 2011, 08:19:46 AM
It's an interesting social study, really. Just know that our lives are in the hands of 18 year old rape victims from impoverished small towns who are all either angry and disgruntled that the recruiter lied to them or gung-ho on the level of Major Kong.

Episode two focuses on the air group and the marines, which is awesome. The air group guys and gals are all...insane. As I've always figured you have to be. Every ship has a contingent of marines, and they're embittered second class citizens who haven't had anything to do since 1945.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on April 30, 2011, 11:33:53 PM
Nice...post up ep 2 as well!
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Post by: nacho on May 01, 2011, 04:52:14 AM
Nice...post up ep 2 as well!

Should be under related links on Youtube. Or are you behind some government firewall that favors only GS?
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Post by: nacho on May 09, 2011, 12:06:22 PM
So I've been having an unofficial John Milius mini-marathon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Milius

On his Wiki page I stumbled across news on "Pharaoh" -- a new HBO series. And I immediately went Rome crazy.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118017488?refCatId=19

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John Milius, co-creator and exec producer on HBO-BBC's "Rome," has signed on as showrunner on another historic blockbuster, ancient Egypt epic "Pharaoh."

Conceived as a 12-part series, "Pharaoh" is set up at two Paris-based companies, Amana Creative, the new production house of former StudioCanal CEO Frederic Sichler, and Tetra Media. Pay TV giant Canal Plus Group will co-develop "Pharaoh."

Milius, the screenwriter of "Apocalypse Now" and scribe-director of "Conan the Barbarian" and "Red Dawn," has written a 15-page treatment for "Pharaoh" and is now writing the first episode, which he will direct. He will supervise a team of screenwriters for the rest of the project.

He aims to flesh-out the first season narrative after a visit to Egypt in May, he told Weekly Variety.

Sichler says major European TV companies and pubcaster Egypt Radio and Television Union are interested in backing "Pharaoh."

"If ERTU comes in, it would be the first time it has co-produced a series of this magnitude," he adds.

Sichler will be at this week's Mip TV mart in Cannes to advance negotiations.

Like "Rome," "Pharaoh" homes in on one dramatic period: the New Kingdom that began in 1479 B.C. with the reign of Queen Hatshepsut, a rare female pharaoh, who ruled as regent until her nephew, Thutmosis III, took the throne.

The mighty warrior pharaoh created the largest empire ancient Egypt had ever seen, an international super-power sprawling from southern Syria to northern Sudan.

"Having John Milius on board was decisive for us. He has what it takes to create a modern series about the fascinating life of the pharaohs," says Canal Plus fiction director Fabrice de la Patelliere,

"Pharaoh," like "Rome," will mix "characters at all levels of life," says Milius, historical and fictional figures, common people with which audiences can identify.

One will be a tomb-robber, Milius suggests, others a priest, soldiers and merchants, says Sichler.

Milius believes today's auds will identify with much of the ancient Egyptian lifestyle.

"Egyptian civilization is remakarbly modern. Egypt's dealings with other powers, the Syrians, Metannites, Babylonian civilizations, are strikingly contemporary in their arguments, their distrust for each other, their building up of separate cultures," he says.

"Pharaoh" stands apart in some ways from "Rome," however.

"What's important in Egypt compared to Rome is the mysticism, the relationship to death, mummification, to life after death," says Sichler.

Another difference is financing. In an initial phase, says Sichler, the partners will work on tying down European co-producers and a Middle East partner, then look for a strong U.S. partner.

Looking to Europe also underscores the larger international ambitions of key European players.

"This project is in line with our brief to make series of international reach," says De La Patelliere.

Canal Plus Group is already co-producing 12-hour miniseries "The Borgias," penned by Tom Fontana.

For Milius, "Pharaoh" allows him to work with writers and directors from around the world.

"Cinema and narrative fiction are widening out again as they haven't probably since the 1960s, largely due to the Internet and technology but also the breakdown of leadership from Hollywood," Milius says.
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Post by: nacho on May 18, 2011, 07:35:31 AM
Are you watching Justified?  It's great.

Gave this a second chance. I don't know why, but the first four episodes are really hard for me. But then I got hooked. So plowing through the remainder of season one now and season two is waiting.
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Post by: nacho on June 09, 2011, 04:40:29 PM
Wow... Got lost on Tvtropes.org for a bit there.

Currently going through the list of "Chuck Cunninghams": http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChuckCunninghamSyndrome
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Post by: nacho on June 13, 2011, 10:48:14 AM
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Thirty-five years after the mini-series I, Claudius was first broadcast, HBO is ready to return to Rome. The pay-cable network just signed a pact with the BBC to remake Claudius, a hot property that had been pursued for years — at one point, Leonardo DiCaprio intended to star in a feature-film version — to no avail. Begin your fantasy casting now: Who could play Derek Jacobi's title role? (And don't say Paul Giamatti, because we know you were about to.)
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Post by: nacho on June 16, 2011, 02:31:30 PM
I'm watching Community and, so far, the funniest part is this guy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0383422/

Playing the neo-pencil-neck hippie Professor Whitman.

He looks like he should be in a 50's sitcom. Or playing LSD in the 68 version of The Producers.  I love that.

The other guy who looks like he belongs in the 50's is Timothy Omundson

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0648486/

I'm always amused by him solely because he should be a sitcom father in 1955.

So there we go! Consider this post my review of Community season 1. Also, I like the brunette girl a whole lot.
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Post by: nacho on June 24, 2011, 04:33:55 PM
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The Office has found the man to replace Michael Scott ... sort of. EW reports that James Spader, who guest-starred on the show's season finale, is now in negotiations to join the cast full-time this fall. The twist? After being appointed office manager, Spader's character Robert California will sweet-talk Dunder Mifflin into letting him serve as CEO, which could leave the manager position open for a new actor or Office regular. (You may recall that in 2003, Spader also joined The Practice late into its run and shook up the show's chemistry quite a bit.) "In the finale, [Spader] kicked ass," a show source told EW. "He was so funny and had this weird energy. We didn't want to pass it up."
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Post by: nacho on June 27, 2011, 10:37:56 PM
Last few eps of season two of my Community marathon.

This show just launched into orbit for me because they're doing a clipshow now...but all the clips are original from "adventures" we haven't seen. Season two has taken meta to a whole new level.
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Post by: Cassander on June 27, 2011, 11:16:12 PM
In my mind they go a little overboard by the end of the season, especially with the two-part finale that is, sadly, a retread of the paintball fight from S1.  But that clip show was great.  "A Locomotive of our dreams!"
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Post by: nacho on June 27, 2011, 11:50:14 PM
I'm such a PA fan -- and Paintball has to be one of the best 20 minutes of TV in the last five years -- that I'm glad to see a sequel. Just starting it now... Western themed! But, yeah, we'll see... It is weirdly disappointing. They've been joking about a Paintball sequel for the entire season... Every episode has had a reference. So I was sort of hoping they would avoid it and maybe end with a super-meta lark about avoiding it. That would have been more in keeping with the theme of season two.

  But that clip show was great.  "A Locomotive of our dreams!"

Remember our St. Patrick's Day adventure?

What makes it great is the next episode when Shirley has her baby and all the supporting characters wistfully remember the St. Patrick's Day adventure as a time when they were free of the oppressive drama of the gang.
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Post by: nacho on June 27, 2011, 11:56:40 PM
And, you know, the western apocalypse paintball sequel works. Mainly because they gave Alison Brie ("Ace of Hearts") the lead. And she wears skimpy clothes and nylons. So, Cass, you can never speak ill of Alison Brie.

"Jeff wants to see you."

"And I want pants. Alot of people want alot of things."


Edit: Oooh... They do retread, though, don't they? They even retread the South Park apocalypse gag -- where it's revealed that civilization has collapsed and some uber-fantasy civilization has risen up to replace it in just five hours.

Edit 2: Woah! But part two goes from western to Star Wars. And we actually get a lesson in the similarities.  

Edit 3: "And I'm a one man party, and a one man party can't be part of an alliance. That's a paradox."

"I agree to disagree."

"Easy, Paradox. We're on the same side."

Edit 4: And we do end with a discussion about how sequels are always disappointing!
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Post by: Cassander on June 28, 2011, 11:41:20 PM
feh.
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Post by: nacho on June 29, 2011, 06:46:45 AM
You're a cold man to "feh" episodes where Alison Brie is underdressed.
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Post by: nacho on August 22, 2011, 02:07:14 PM
Man, the suffering never ends on Showtime!


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The network has given the go-ahead to three new series, it was announced on Sunday. They are Masters of Sex, a cable-appropriate-sounding adaptation of Thomas Maier's book about sex-education researchers William Masters and Virginia Johnson; Gurland on Gurland, a docudrama chronicling its creator's navigation of the next phase of his career; and Ray Donovan, a family drama about an L.A. "fixer" to the famous whose own life — you guessed it! — could use some fixing. The shows are the second round of orders from new entertainment chief David Nevins, who greenlit — and eventually picked up — Homeland and House of Lies earlier this year.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 22, 2011, 08:03:42 PM
American Horror Story. Early reviews say it's pretty campy.

I only like this trailer for the maid in garters and stockings.

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Post by: nacho on August 22, 2011, 08:33:43 PM
Yeah, no shit. I'll tune in just for the maid.

They should just do that show! 

"Tonight: Premiere Episode of Sexy Maid in Stockings"
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Post by: nacho on September 15, 2011, 10:54:41 AM
Huh?


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Many have tried to remake the 1984 adventure comedy Romancing the Stone for the big screen, but it looks like NBC might get to it first. The Hollywood Reporter reports that the network has signed on to adapt the story of a romance novelist (originally played by Kathleen Turner) who searches for her missing sister in South America, where she joins up with a handsome rogue (Michael Douglas). While the first film was helmed by Robert Zemeckis, this one would be directed by Shawn Levy (Real Steel) should it go to series, exponentially increasing the odds that the main characters will be played by fighting, sexy robots.
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Post by: nacho on September 23, 2011, 08:09:48 AM
Community's back! I'm now so obsessed with Alison Brie, I'm just happy to see her again and have no comment on the premiere. Except, of course, yet another Downton Abbey parody!

And John Goodman.

And MONKEY GAAAASSSS!!!
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Post by: Cassander on September 23, 2011, 03:29:27 PM
So it seems like your fears of adding John Goodman and a talking Lily (in Modern Family) were unfounded and you need to trust me more.
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Post by: nacho on September 23, 2011, 03:32:45 PM
No, I hate talking Lily.  Hate, hate, hate. Go see the Modern Family thread.

And since Goodman's screentime is going to amount to 2 minutes an episode in Community, that's no problem.

In unrelated news: Just finished the pilot of Person of Interest. It's formulaic, of course. And it feels rushed. It feels like it should have been two hours. But, whatever. It was candy. Not terrible, not great. Michael Emerson basically reprising the role of Ben Linus. No problem.
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Post by: nacho on September 30, 2011, 08:35:08 PM
In unrelated news: Just finished the pilot of Person of Interest. It's formulaic, of course. And it feels rushed. It feels like it should have been two hours. But, whatever. It was candy. Not terrible, not great. Michael Emerson basically reprising the role of Ben Linus. No problem.

Almost ready to give Person of Interest its own thread. Just so I can go on and on about how awesome Michael Emerson is even though he's obviously just going to spend the next 40 years playing Ben Linus.

Episode two is better than the pilot. So far so good... I mean, yeah, it's still nonsense. But whatever.

What I'm hoping is this: The computer is self-aware(ish). We get these little scene change things where we see things from Skynet's POV, constantly monitoring everyone. I hope that's not just groovy hipster stylization and is, rather, Skynet watching our heroes do good.

The intro (shown for the first time in episode two) is Emerson doing the Ben Linus version of the A-Team opening.
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Post by: nacho on October 14, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
Community's back! I'm now so obsessed with Alison Brie, I'm just happy to see her again and have no comment on the premiere. Except, of course, yet another Downton Abbey parody!

And John Goodman.

And MONKEY GAAAASSSS!!!

Jesus Christ...last night's alternate timelines episode was amazing. I've got a folder of the "best of" Community from the last three seasons, so adding that one!
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Post by: nacho on October 19, 2011, 10:53:25 AM
I've been trying to ignore this the last three days...


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"The Walking Dead" is already making waves in Hollywood as studios are clamoring to get their grubby mitts on their own undead franchise. Fresh off the record-breaking ratings for Sunday's Season 2 premiere of AMC's "The Walking Dead", Fox and Sony Pictures Television are developing a potential half-hour comedy based on the Jesse Eisenberg, Woody Harrelson and Emma Stone starrer Zombieland, says both THR and Vulture. The project would be written by feature scribes Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick and produced through feature distributor Columbia's sibling unit, Sony Pictures Television with an eye on putting the project into development for the 2012-13 broadcast season. The feature film grossed $75.6 million, with a sequel in the works for next year. A potential TV series, Polone told the site, would replace a big-screen follow-up.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on October 19, 2011, 12:03:37 PM
Would you email me the link to the above?
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Post by: nacho on October 19, 2011, 01:04:30 PM
It's everywhere.

Here's Sci-Fi Wire quoting Vulture which is quoting someone else...


http://blastr.com/2011/10/zombieland-creators-ditch.php
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 22, 2011, 12:54:06 AM
Enjoying this with Mrs. McGraw. Formulaic sure, but I'm surprised by the effort given to character development so far.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on October 22, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
Maybe not the right thread for this, but I hope the two parties involved in the below dispute don't resolve this. This kind of chaos and shake-up could be good for TV and cable competition in the long run.

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DirecTV Threatens to Pull Fox Networks Amid Carriage Dispute

UPDATED: The companies' previous agreement expired Sept. 30, but there has been no progress made in the ongoing negotiations.

DirecTV has told Fox Networks that it will drop the channels Nov. 1 if the two companies don't come to an agreement in the ongoing carriage dispute.

Fox said late Thursday that it has offered an extension during the ongoing negotiations but that DirecTV "has informed us and their customers that unless we agree to their demands, they 'will suspend our networks on Nov. 1.'"

Fox added that DirecTV sent a proposal out Tuesday.

"They have given us no chance to respond before taking an unnecessarily aggressive posture and going public," Fox Networks said in a statement. "It is disappointing that they have chosen bad faith tactics over meaningful negotiation.

"We have proposed to keep the Fox Networks on DirecTV for the same price, and on the same terms as they are currently carried while we attempt to work out a fair agreement. Unfortunately, DirecTV has decided that unless they get their way, they are going to pull the plug on their customers Nov. 1."

Meanwhile, DirecTV issued its own statement late Thursday.

"After months of making little progress in our talks with News Corp and Fox to renew our agreement to carry their regional sports networks and other national channels we’ve regrettably reached a point where we will be forced to suspend the channels as soon as Nov. 1 unless News Corp is willing to move toward a more reasonable price increase," the company said.

According to DirecTV, Fox Networks is seeing a 40% increase in its carriage fees.

"They are currently asking our customers to pay 40% more for the exact same Fox channels that they already receive, and that’s simply unfair and unwarranted," the company said. "We hope to resolve this situation before any action is taken, but we will do what’s necessary to protect our customers from excessive and unwarranted fee increases. We already provide News Corp. nearly a billion dollars a year for their channels, and we have no problem continuing to compensate them fairly."

Fox's carriage agreement with DirecTV expired Sept. 30.

Fox Networks includes FX, National Geographic Channel, 19 regional sports networks, Fox Movie Channel, Speed, Fuel TV, Fox Soccer and Fox Deportes. Fox broadcast stations and Fox News Channel are not involved in the negotiations.

Fox's dispute with DirecTV marks the latest in a series of carriage disagreements for the company. Fox and its parent, News Corp., were engaged in a dispute with Cablevision a year ago, and the Fox channels were blacked out on Dish Network in October 2010 amid a dispute with the satellite TV giant.
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Post by: nacho on October 27, 2011, 10:30:24 PM
Community's back! I'm now so obsessed with Alison Brie, I'm just happy to see her again and have no comment on the premiere. Except, of course, yet another Downton Abbey parody!

And John Goodman.

And MONKEY GAAAASSSS!!!

Jesus Christ...last night's alternate timelines episode was amazing. I've got a folder of the "best of" Community from the last three seasons, so adding that one!

The Halloween episode!

Tonight's top story! An escaped convict from the asylum has escaped and he's mental and he's on the loose and stuff!

And goddamned vampire noir with Joel McHale and Alison Brie made me pine for aDark Shadows-themed spinoff.  Also, yay pushup bra.

Though that may have been trumped by the Chevy Chase Halloween story. "In a minute! I'm enjoying a post-coital brandy!"

Though...that may have been trumped by Shirley's story! "We interrupt your death metal to bring you some heavy news!"

Troy and Abed sewn together!

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Post by: nacho on November 07, 2011, 04:47:55 PM
Blah.

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Bryan Fuller is writing and executive producing Hannibal, an hour-long drama for NBC starring America's favorite cannibal intellectual Hannibal Lecter. NBC preemptively bought the show and will either pick up thirteen episodes right from the start or pass completely. Given Fuller's dreamy, wistful takes on the interior lives of damaged twentysomething women (Pushing Daisies, Dead Like Me, Wonderfalls), this makes complete and total sense. What is Hannibal Lecter if not a smart, stylized female character trying to come to terms with adulthood in a surreal, magical environment?
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Post by: nacho on November 11, 2011, 02:27:55 PM
Community's back! I'm now so obsessed with Alison Brie, I'm just happy to see her again and have no comment on the premiere. Except, of course, yet another Downton Abbey parody!

And John Goodman.

And MONKEY GAAAASSSS!!!

Jesus Christ...last night's alternate timelines episode was amazing. I've got a folder of the "best of" Community from the last three seasons, so adding that one!

The Halloween episode!

Tonight's top story! An escaped convict from the asylum has escaped and he's mental and he's on the loose and stuff!

And goddamned vampire noir with Joel McHale and Alison Brie made me pine for aDark Shadows-themed spinoff.  Also, yay pushup bra.

Though that may have been trumped by the Chevy Chase Halloween story. "In a minute! I'm enjoying a post-coital brandy!"

Though...that may have been trumped by Shirley's story! "We interrupt your death metal to bring you some heavy news!"

Troy and Abed sewn together!



I should probably start a Community thread...this show just gets better and better. #anniesmove was awesome. A slow start, but then it really kicked off.
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Post by: nacho on November 11, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
It's Always Sunny is also better than it's been in a long time.

These are the theories of LUNATICS!

And we've actually gone for some time without properly picking on Dee. "Dee! You gangly, uncoordinated bitch!"
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Post by: nacho on November 16, 2011, 09:24:15 PM
Oh, shit... Community got cancelled!
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Post by: Cassander on November 17, 2011, 03:01:27 AM
Bullshit!  So after 30 rock ends, Office finally finds a way to die, and community is gone, and we have long left conan behind, we're really not far off from NBC becoming a cable channel, right?  Or CBS version 2.0.  It's a shame how they've just shat away everything over the past 8 years by doing the television equivalent of "shooting the moon" in Spades.
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Post by: nacho on November 17, 2011, 07:52:32 AM
Here's the update, buried in the news that Prime Suspect got viciously pulled as well.


http://crushable.com/entertainment/community-fans-create-try-to-save-their-show-with-occupynbc-twitter-639/
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Post by: Cassander on November 18, 2011, 04:32:03 AM
NBC's policy for the past 5 years is to not have a coherent, executable strategy.  And now it's finally catching up with them. 
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 27, 2011, 06:43:39 PM
We need a 2012 pilot/new show thread.

I spent four days at my in-laws watching more television than I usually watch in four weeks. However, I did see two previews for shows that look awesome.

First, the Paranormal Activity guy goes all Blair Witch in the Amazon with The River.



The one I really want to see though is the J.J. Abrams produced Alcatraz. <3 SAM NEILL <3


this movie needs sam neill
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Post by: nacho on November 28, 2011, 12:09:20 AM
What I want to know is: Does J.J. Abrams sleep?
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 28, 2011, 12:10:46 AM
I know, right?
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Post by: Tatertots on November 28, 2011, 09:49:11 PM
Pfft. San Francisco doesn't have pay phones. Or police.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 28, 2011, 11:00:48 PM
Just wine bars, weed, and homeless people, right?
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on December 01, 2011, 11:02:58 PM
And composted trash!
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Post by: nacho on December 02, 2011, 07:56:55 AM
I think the best part of last night's Community was the Quantum Leap porno.

"Sam, Ziggy says there's an 80% chance that you can't leave Woodstock until you bone these hippies!"

"Oh boy..."
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Post by: nacho on December 09, 2011, 12:11:01 AM
I think the best part of last night's Community was the Quantum Leap porno.

"Sam, Ziggy says there's an 80% chance that you can't leave Woodstock until you bone these hippies!"

"Oh boy..."

Jesus...this show. The Glee Club episode might have been the best 22 minutes of TV I've seen since...well...last week's episode.
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Post by: nacho on February 02, 2012, 06:10:52 PM
Comedy Central's mid-season Key and Peele (just one episode so far) is fucking hilarious. It's the modern In Living Color. Get it. Now.
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Post by: Tatertots on February 03, 2012, 04:59:15 AM
By the way, Alcatraz sucks horribly. It's a 6th grade play directed by a senile Michael Bay.

So I'm somewhat watching Downton Abbey and Portlandia. Because, you know, life is short and it's best spent watching rich people and cross-dressing guys.
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Post by: nacho on February 03, 2012, 09:59:28 AM
Alcatraz is soooo stupid. I can't stop watching it!

Downton Abbey is a hilariously bad mockery of a show. I hate it. And Portlandia sucks this season.

So there!
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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 03, 2012, 11:00:33 AM
 this movie needs sam neill
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Post by: nacho on February 03, 2012, 11:29:03 AM
He is the only reason I'm watching. With Alcatraz, I finally realize that I would pay for and watch a show where Sam Neill just sits at his kitchen table and reads the newspaper.

Which is sort of what's happening with Michael Emerson in Person of Interest.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on February 03, 2012, 05:43:31 PM
Ah, Person of Interest.

Enjoyed the new green triangles representing aircraft this week...

And the return of super manipulator blackmailer woman!
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Post by: Cassander on February 06, 2012, 01:00:40 AM
Luck had the best pilot I've seen in a long, long time, even among shows that I eventually learned to love.  I'm really looking forward to the full season.
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Post by: nacho on February 06, 2012, 08:46:26 AM
Been avoiding it because I think Hoffman is the devil...but I'll get it in me today.
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Post by: nacho on February 06, 2012, 04:24:00 PM
Well... Luck isn't bad, but... I don't know. It's got that thing these shows are doing now. The moody meandering of Boss. It's that sort of portrait of troubled characters thing.

Which is boring...but also weirdly refreshing, when done right.
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Post by: nacho on February 08, 2012, 10:05:57 PM
Girl at work told me to watch The River, which is Blair Witch meets...I don't know. Lost, I guess. Everything is X meets Lost these days.

Anyway, within 15 minutes, we have a girl say in Spanish "It is death" yet the subtitles say "It is UNTRANSLATABLE" and that made me crazy...because we all know muerta, right? I mean...shit...why not pick, like, a hard spanish word?

So I bitched via text to the girl at work about how stupid The River is.

She replied: "You watch Alcatraz."

I was unmanned.

But...oh...she does not understand the power of Sam Neill. How he weakens my heart.
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Post by: nacho on February 09, 2012, 01:21:28 PM
Here's a Youtube sinkhole --

http://blastr.com/2012/02/18-awesome-sci-fi-moments.php
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Post by: nacho on February 14, 2012, 03:11:33 PM
God help me, but I'm really getting into Alcatraz. They're doling out just the right amount of mystery, and actually building on it. I mean, yes, it's a stupid show... But the combination of the present day above-the-law hunt and sci-fi mystery and Highlander-style flashbacks to 1963 are just a thrill.

So we're still reeling from hints that the warden has a time machine in his basement and we learn last night that cop chick's grandfather is also a time traveler. He alludes to his time in WWII, but he's only in his mid-20's. He's also the subject of ongoing experiments run by the old doc and the warden.

I hope this gets to play out, because Big Boss Warden has to show up for a cliffhanger at some point or else I'll be pissed. And he'd better be part octopus with a single glowing red eye.
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Post by: nacho on February 15, 2012, 01:29:26 PM
Did we know that they were remaking Red Dragon again?

As a series!

NBC just ordered 13 episodes.

You know...all we really want is for them to redo the Michael Mann version, complete with the Iron Butterfly finale. Now, 26 years later, it's tame. Just imagine redoing that finale today! And properly redoing it...not like the faggot remake.

For your viewing pleasure -- the Manhunter finale:

Skip to 12:33...and then throughout part 8 for In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida FREAKOUT!

Part 8/8 (we get six minutes back with our heroes, then Michael Mann basically reaches through the screen and helps get us off):
Not a valid youtube URL
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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 15, 2012, 01:49:56 PM
They cut into the In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida bit? Amateurs.
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Post by: nacho on February 15, 2012, 01:57:43 PM
They cut into the In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida bit? Amateurs.

Yeah! These fucking Youtube pirates are useless.
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Post by: nacho on February 16, 2012, 09:38:56 PM
So... Revenge. It's been getting uber-hype because, this month, All Will Be Revealed(tm).

It's taken 15 episodes to catch up with the prologue of the pilot, and The Big Reveal is actually kind of meh. Probably because everyone everywhere has been saying OMG OMG FEB 15TH REVENGE!!

It's actually a big, fat red herring. And now more soapy than anything. Which is fine. It's just that the show sort of needs a proper bloodletting. Like, a main cast person bloodletting... Not a supporting villain bloodletting that's clumsily convenient for our main girl. Though next week promises more action and adventure, we're sort of over the hump now. They probably should have saved this full circle thing for, you know, the finale. We're just going to slog through six more episodes now which will be the morning after bullshit.

But...maybe there's a plan. There must be a plan. So maybe we'll be okay. Doesn't really matter...this is a soap opera and we're all hooked. They can probably do anything.
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Post by: nacho on February 23, 2012, 08:57:57 PM
Awake. A cop and his family are in a car crash and, when he wakes up, he finds himself living parallel lives...one in which his wife died, and another in which his son died. Which one is real?

The first episode held water -- and my interest. Worth continuing. It's the same sort of genre as Life on Mars, I guess. Except (in a rare twist for TV) it's not obviously copying that show's elements.
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Post by: Cassander on March 01, 2012, 04:56:05 AM
Ugh.  I watched the commercial for Awake and fell asleep halfway through.

You and L need to talk TV, not me.  Luck is awesome and not just because it is Milch milking HBO for free reign again.  Watch eps 2,3, and 4 then make a decision.  I've been waiting for a show like this.  The sideshow characters are a bit clumsy, but no more so than the sad sacks we put up with in Deadwood.  Actually, when you boil it all down it is Deadwood without Timothy Olyphant and Ian Shane.  The same over-characterized sidekicks, the same adorable dames, the same lurch into shakespearian monologues, the fact that there are about 5 too many characters, and the overwhelming coming to grips with masculinity in the modern age themes...

But hoffman and farina fucking do it, man.  what's your issue?  They're both actually toning it way down from where they have been.  I think it's great.  Plus Richard Kind is employed again!  And there's an adorable faux-Irish lady jockey who takes her silks off in episode four.  What more could you want?
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Post by: nacho on March 01, 2012, 08:22:37 AM
I'll give it a second chance. It was just... I don't know. Episode one did nothing for me. I just didn't care about any of them.

Of course, I'm sitting here watching Revenge now and going OMG they arrested Daniel... So maybe I've poisoned my mind.
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Post by: nacho on March 06, 2012, 08:01:55 PM
The whole time travel/magic blood thing (and, you know, more Sam Neill) is really getting me addicted to Alcatraz. It's the perfect blend of everything that was bad about Lost, X-Files, and Millennium. I can't stop watching! It proves that I'll watch Sam Neill do anything.
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Post by: nacho on April 27, 2012, 08:23:11 AM
God, I'm so glad Community is back...

"A man's got to have a code. I can only assume there's a female equivalent to that. A codette or something."
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Post by: nacho on May 04, 2012, 08:00:20 AM
Wow. So they gave Community a full feature length finale. Community: The Movie.

Roll on May 17th!
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Post by: nacho on May 13, 2012, 09:42:33 AM
Ugh... They cancelled The Finder....
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on May 13, 2012, 09:48:07 AM
Noooooo!!
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Post by: nacho on May 13, 2012, 12:43:10 PM
Yeah. Sucks. The last episode was the series finale.

So what am I gonna do without my weekly dose of Willa?
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Post by: nacho on May 13, 2012, 10:51:53 PM
A little bit angry about the Finder cancellation.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on May 14, 2012, 08:51:42 PM
So what am I gonna do without my weekly dose of Willa?

Watch God Bless America over and over?
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Post by: nacho on May 25, 2012, 01:16:48 PM
Continuum hits this weekend:


It stars every supporting actor from every niche genre show! You'll see Stargate folks in there, and BSG folks, and Alias...
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Post by: nacho on May 28, 2012, 01:17:18 PM
Continuum hits this weekend:


It stars every supporting actor from every niche genre show! You'll see Stargate folks in there, and BSG folks, and Alias...

Show's okay! It's basically Time Trax meets Bionic Woman meets Odyssey Five meets Dark Angel meets...um...everything else.
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Post by: nacho on June 05, 2012, 08:18:15 AM
Episode two of Continuum is a bit smoother. We're in the groove now... Our gal is Stranger in a Strange Land 60 years in her past, but tough as nails and wearing a super suit. In her voice is computer genius Alec, who coincidentally (from his viewpoint) is tapped into our gals' internal computer or whatever. So he gives her all the answers, pulls some strings, and walks her through daily life in 2012.

The twist is that she knows that Alec is the creator of the mega-computer that'll lead to a new (not so good) world order (which our baddies from the future are trying to destroy). She chooses to keep that a secret.

Meanwhile, our baddies are all General Zod wannabes fucking everything up.

There's this sort of superhero/Terminator vibe. It's like if Sarah Connor got a magic superhero suit and then had to fight a bunch of Star Trek-style augments.

I'm a little cold about how the bad guys fail to agree with one of their number who says, oh, wait, we're 60 years in the past. We can get our way and destroy everything before it starts. They're all afraid of our gal, but that seems vaguely short-sighted.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 05, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
*YAWN*

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Denmark native Mads Mikkelson, 46, who was very hard on James Bond’s genitals in “Casino Royale,” will play the cannibalistic psychoanalyst in “Hannibal,” the midseason series about what Lecter was up to before his FBI profiler pal, Will Graham, discovered Lecter’s unsavory hobby.
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Post by: nacho on June 05, 2012, 05:05:09 PM
Jesus...
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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 05, 2012, 05:10:17 PM
I've been on a bit of an entertainment news blackout of late. Catching up today, I can see how maybe that's been a good thing.

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38-year-old “Sliders” icon Jerry O’Connell will play Herman Munster in “Mockingbird Lane,” the hourlong pilot reboot of “The Munsters” masterminded by Bryan Fuller (creator of “Dead Like Me,” “Wonderfalls” and “Pushing Daisies”).
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Post by: nacho on June 05, 2012, 05:19:02 PM
Oh my god! I can't imagine anything more horrible. Go back on your entertainment news blackout, please.
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Post by: nacho on June 25, 2012, 05:15:08 PM
It only took five episodes of Continuum for the bad guys to figure out that they should kill our main girl's grandparents if they want to get rid of her. Which is starting to wade into complicated timey wimey territory...

There's been some blabbering about how all this is a time loop so, therefore, nothing can be changed. Which explains why Old Alec seems to not be surprised about the shit that goes down in the pilot. And also means that the entire series is pointless! So why are we watching?

Our main girl believes that the future is being changed and she has to stop the bad guys in order to save the future. But it's too late for that, just five episodes in, which means that the entire series is pointless. So why are we watching?
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Post by: nacho on July 09, 2012, 05:55:30 PM
The big problem I have with Continuum is that we're being asked to root for a murdering agent of a corporate-run authoritarian future that makes Orwell's worst nightmare seem like the Puppy Bowl.

The show seems aware of that, but isn't clever enough to play on it properly. They're obsessed with making the terrorists (who, despite their methods, are essentially freedom fighters and mankind's last best hope) into evil maniacs.

So... I guess Continuum is pro corporate authoritarianism.
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Post by: nacho on July 25, 2012, 11:06:48 AM
Leaping onto the True Blood wagon...


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Jonathan Rhys Meyers is to play the titular vamp in NBC and Sky Living’s 10-episode Dracula adaptation

In the year that sees The Twilight Saga finally draw to a close, you might say that NBCUniversal and Sky Living’s hop onto the vamp bandwagon is a bit, er, dilatory. That said, interest in Bram Stoker’s 1897 Dracula has never really waned, so now probably seems as good a time as any to produce a new TV adaptation.

Jonathan Rhys Meyers (The Tudors) will be playing the lead role, and the series will reportedly kick off with Drac's arrival in 1890s London rather than Jonathan Harker’s journey to the Count's distant castle. In this incarnation, Dracula is posing as an American entrepreneur seeking to bring modern technology to Victorian England, all the while planning to wreak revenge on the descendants of his former enemies. Sounds like a good few departures have been taken from the novel, then.

Dracula comes based on a script by comic book writer Cole Haddon (The Strange Case of Mr Hyde), that’s been described as “…dark, twisted and intelligent” by Sky’s Head of Drama. The series is co-produced by NBCUniversal and Sky Living, and due to go into production later this year.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 30, 2012, 06:11:14 PM
So it's the Will SMith I, Robot... except a TV series.

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“Homeland” showrunner Howard Gordon is teaming with “Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles” showrunner for prospective new NBC series about deadly robots, according to a Deadline Hollywood exclusive.

Deadline describes the premise:

    … a thriller soap set in a world much like ours, where human-looking robots are commonplace. After a routine homicide explodes into the first robot-on-human murder, the lead detective must solve the case and investigate a growing robot rebellion while dealing with the impact on his own fractured family.

Friedman will script the pilot under Gordon’s supervision.

Gordon’s non-"Homeland" credits include “The X-Files,” “Buffy the Vampire Slayer,” “Angel,” “24” and this year’s NBC drama “Awake.”

Friedman’s other big credit was co-writing 2005’s “War of the Worlds” with David Koepp.
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Post by: nacho on August 30, 2012, 06:16:53 PM
A prequel to Runaway!
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on August 30, 2012, 10:24:10 PM
I was just thinking about Runaway last night because a KISS song came on.
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Post by: nacho on August 31, 2012, 12:22:07 AM
I loved the crazy gun in Runaway.
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Post by: nacho on October 01, 2012, 12:50:01 PM
666 Park Avenue.

Predictable, boring... It's basically the next evolutionary step in things like Friday the 13: The Series and so on. Terry O'Quinn is pretty much just playing the Smoke Monster. I find myself not caring about any of the characters.

It's not bad, exactly. Might be good off-season filler. As it is, I feel like there's enough to watch and I don't want to add another mediocre hour into the mix...
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Post by: nacho on October 15, 2012, 10:37:45 AM
I've been on a bit of an entertainment news blackout of late. Catching up today, I can see how maybe that's been a good thing.

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38-year-old “Sliders” icon Jerry O’Connell will play Herman Munster in “Mockingbird Lane,” the hourlong pilot reboot of “The Munsters” masterminded by Bryan Fuller (creator of “Dead Like Me,” “Wonderfalls” and “Pushing Daisies”).

Eddie Izzard sort of wins me over...


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Post by: nacho on October 15, 2012, 02:44:01 PM
I'm embarrassed to admit this... But "Nashville" on ABC -- a new series about an aging country singer being overshadowed by an up and coming young songstress (played by the ever lovely Hayden Panty-air). Forced together by her record label, it's basically a soap opera, I guess. And strangely compelling. Or maybe I just like to watch Panty-air play a dolled up slut who has her tits hanging out all the time.
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Post by: nacho on October 17, 2012, 07:23:49 AM
Just a quick nod to the latest episode of Raising Hope...which played wonderful games with the fourth wall. Cloris Leachman (now meta-Cloris Leachman in the loony bin/nursing home) talking to the wall (which is our POV), but everyone else sees her just...talking to the wall, and says she's crazy.

Which sort of makes it feel like we're crazy.

I love fun and games like that. Usually a bit ham-handed (the old "Who are you talking to?" whenever someone breaks the wall when their characters aren't supposed to), but really works this time.
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Post by: nacho on October 24, 2012, 10:55:45 AM
I've been on a bit of an entertainment news blackout of late. Catching up today, I can see how maybe that's been a good thing.

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38-year-old “Sliders” icon Jerry O’Connell will play Herman Munster in “Mockingbird Lane,” the hourlong pilot reboot of “The Munsters” masterminded by Bryan Fuller (creator of “Dead Like Me,” “Wonderfalls” and “Pushing Daisies”).

Eddie Izzard sort of wins me over...


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There's a part of me that's not dreading this...


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Post by: RottingCorpse on October 24, 2012, 01:04:57 PM
Early reviews are pretty glowing...
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Post by: nacho on October 24, 2012, 04:27:14 PM
Pilot only. It's already been canned. So Friday is the one and only chance!
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Post by: nacho on November 04, 2012, 03:25:55 PM
Mockingbird Lane...

So...I don't want to say it's good, because it certainly isn't. But it is...kinda.

The best way I can describe it is that Bryan Singer must be a huge Munsters fan so, in his off time, he made a 40 minute homage as a kind of lark. Like something you'd make for your kid if your kid was a huge fan of the show as well. But with no real intentions to make it a series. It's basically fan fiction.

That would be fine if it wasn't a strong cast. So the fan fiction aspect really means that this is a phenomenal, shocking, and inexcusable waste of Eddie Izzard (who is terrific), Portia de Rossi (who is always nice to stare at), and even Jerry O'Connell (who, shockingly, is acceptable). And not just the big names, either. The unknown Charity Wakefield in as the saccharine (though updated to emo) Marilyn is also quietly impressive.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 06, 2012, 10:30:37 PM
Election nerves were briefly broken by this promo on TV. This looks awesome.

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Post by: nacho on November 07, 2012, 10:33:58 AM
Yes! That looked great. And I swear I saw Tricia Helfer in there...but apparently not.


I often imagine I see Tricia Helfer.
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Post by: nacho on November 30, 2012, 12:23:32 PM
Ugh...


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Three years after it was first announced, Stephen King's Under the Dome is finally coming to television in a big way.

According to Deadline, CBS-TV has picked up King's massive novel as a 13-episode project that will go straight to series—which means that a pilot doesn't have to be shot first for the network to scrutinize (and pick apart) before saying yes.

That's not surprising, considering the huge names behind the endeavor: Along with King himself, Steven Spielberg will executive-produce the show, with his Amblin Entertainment on board as the production company in association with CBS Television Studios.

This, by the way, represents a promotion of sorts for the series. It was first announced as being under development for cable and ended up at Showtime, which is owned by CBS. Now the show's been upped to the parent network, where it has a bigger chance of being seen by a wider audience.

The show is being written by Brian K. Vaughan (Y: The Last Man, Lost) and the first episode will be directed by Niels Arden Oplev, who directed the original Swedish version of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.

The book, when it was published in 2009, was widely acclaimed as one of King's best in a long time, with many comparing its scope favorably to The Stand. The story takes place in a small Maine town—of course—that is sealed off from the rest of the world by a gigantic, transparent dome, leaving its inhabitants to desperately fend for themselves while trying to find out what the dome is and whether it can be breached.

Interestingly, Vaughan has, with King's permission, added some new characters and changed the book's ending—which was arguably its weak spot—at the request of CBS in case the network wants to order up a second season.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on December 02, 2012, 11:57:14 AM
I couldn't finish it.
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Post by: nacho on December 02, 2012, 05:07:17 PM
Nobody could. Yet...
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Post by: RottingCorpse on December 13, 2012, 12:06:26 PM
!

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Gillian Anderson, whose “X-Files” doctor character spent lots of time hanging around with FBI agents, will play Hannibal Lecter’s psychoanalyst in NBC’s Hannibal, according to Entertainment Weekly.
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Post by: nacho on December 13, 2012, 01:42:02 PM
File under "where'd they dig her up".
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Post by: RottingCorpse on January 13, 2013, 01:21:27 PM
Ugh...


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Three years after it was first announced, Stephen King's Under the Dome is finally coming to television in a big way.

Double Ugh...

http://www.fangoria.com/index.php/home/all-news/1-latest-news/8381-cbs-reveals-premiere-date-for-king-series-qunder-the-domeq (http://www.fangoria.com/index.php/home/all-news/1-latest-news/8381-cbs-reveals-premiere-date-for-king-series-qunder-the-domeq)

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Published in 2009, UNDER THE DOME is set in Chester’s Mill, Maine, where a mysterious force field suddenly descends and seals the town off from the outside world, and those trapped inside begin to turn on each other. CBS has announced the series will premiere Monday, June 24 at 10 p.m. with the first looks coming courtesy of Superbowl Ads.
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Post by: nacho on January 24, 2013, 01:17:23 PM
Oh my god... I'm actually enjoying Once Upon A Time.

That's not natural, right? It's just because they poured Jennifer Morrison into tight jeans and that chick playing the Evil Queen really rocks out her leather outfit, right?
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Post by: RottingCorpse on January 24, 2013, 02:10:55 PM
Or it means you're a 14-year-old girl.
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Post by: nacho on January 24, 2013, 02:35:51 PM
If you know what I mean.

No...wait. That doesn't work.
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Post by: nacho on January 24, 2013, 09:11:39 PM
Or it means you're a 14-year-old girl.

Squeeee! Cinderella has such an awesome real-world persona!

(Oh, god...)
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Post by: nacho on January 24, 2013, 09:23:48 PM
Here's the problem with this fucking Once Upon A Time fucking fuck shit. It's the Lost people behind it. And, like, over the top. There's a lost reference (or several of them) in every episode.

And they do the masterful early-era Lost thing where there's this huge, complicated thing going on. Unlike Lost, we know what that huge complicated thing is. Perfect! So the mystery isn't the thing itself (as it was in Lost) but, instead, how all the characters fit into the thing. This is easily done by having the curse that shunted all the fairy tale creatures into a dismal New England town erase their memories and assign them mundane real-world personas.

Except, clearly, some of them know the truth. Or have since remembered parts of the truth. Or maybe just know the truth on some strange self-preservation level. And all those people are the bad guys! The only good guys in on it (and working to stop the curse) is a 10 year old kid and Jennifer Morrison -- who thinks the whole thing is bullshit, but decides to help the 10 year old (her kid, given up (read: stolen by Rumpelstiltskin, unbeknownst to most) at birth).

It takes all the great Lost elements, simplifies them, puts them down with a real plan, and then runs with it. I think they didn't quite know where Lost was going to go at first, but now Team Abrams is immortal. So they know that they can spent all of season one basically in prologue, and then do their story chapter by chapter, fairy tale style.
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Post by: nacho on January 24, 2013, 11:22:38 PM
Man. Cinderella is played by the same girl who plays the uber-evil and suuuuper creepy alien spokesperson in Falling Skies. One of the only good things about that show. It's really hard to separate the two characters. The sad down and out laundress/Cinderella versus C-grade sci-fi's creepy girl equivalent of the insane captain from Sunshine.
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Post by: nacho on January 28, 2013, 06:08:25 PM
So... in between Star Trek and Star Wars, we're getting two new series from Abrams. The man's creative output could power a city.

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He may be busy shepherding new installments of Star Wars and Star Trek, but that doesn’t mean J.J. Abrams has turned his back on the medium that made him famous. The Lost and Fringe creator just had two new sci-fi pilots picked up, and they both sound pretty intriguing.

First up is the untitled, future-set robot cop series he’s working on with fellow Fringe producer J.H. Wyman, which has been described as a “an action-packed buddy cop show, set in the near future, when all LAPD officers are partnered with highly evolved human-like androids.” The project is set up at Fox, so its nice to see they’re keen to keep the old Fringe creative team together.

The other series, Believe, will air on NBC if it gets a pickup. This one sounds a little out there, and would follow a young girl with powerful gifts. Evil forces are out to get her, so an ex-con is tasked to protect her. Weird? Sure, but if anyone can make it work, it’s him. Alfonso Cuaron (Children of Men) and Mark Friedman (The Forgotten) have also signed on, so this one comes from a pretty solid pedigree. Abrams already launched a hit last season on NBC with Revolution, so it's no surprise they want to keep the train rolling.
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Post by: nacho on February 07, 2013, 09:01:38 PM
Election nerves were briefly broken by this promo on TV. This looks awesome.


The best way to sum this up?

Facebook!

http://www.facebook.com/nachosasha/posts/10200597030519110?comment_id=5682261&notif_t=like
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Post by: nacho on February 20, 2013, 08:24:16 PM
Cult! From the Farscape creative team comes this latest entry into the Illuminati paranoia canon (Utopia, The Master, The Following...).

Unlike The Master and The Following, Cult is actually quite good. It's a show about a show about a cult. But the show is...something more than just a show, and strange shit is happening. A lowly PA and a washed up reporter fall into a hole where, perhaps, Cult the show is actually running a real cult or...something. It's dumb network TV, but it's got some good mystery and kept me into it.

Cross reference with The Internet Will Eat Us.

Also, I love one of the lines thrown out early on -- "I'm the guy who kept Joss on for more than one season!"
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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 22, 2013, 11:04:10 AM
Election nerves were briefly broken by this promo on TV. This looks awesome.


The best way to sum this up?

Facebook!

http://www.facebook.com/nachosasha/posts/10200597030519110?comment_id=5682261&notif_t=like

All I keep hearing is how fucking brilliant this is, and now that Utopia is done I have a conspiracy TV show void in my life. Have you followed up on other episodes?
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Post by: nacho on February 22, 2013, 11:07:55 AM
If you have no sense of TV history and the shows it's stealing from/trying to imitate, then you might find it passable viewing if you have the flu and can't get out of bed.
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Post by: nacho on March 05, 2013, 08:19:30 AM
The History Channel has a scripted TV show! Vikings. It follows the tale of a farmer in the 790's who's going about life normally, pressed into service for the summer raids, and being a general badass. A wandering traveler, though, has given him the basic (and sperglord historically accurate) means of being able to sail the open sea without having to keep sight of land. Which, of course, revolutionized how the northmen killed people. They went from grim Danes into...Vikings! Who really are fascinating in terms of history. These guys made it to North America using, basically, a rock and a sundial.

So our farmer is at odds with everyone who thinks he's crazy for wanting to go across the sea, but he's defiantly pushing for it...and building a boat in secret. Also raising a little raiding crew. All things that shall soon piss off King Gabriel Byrne...

Basically, a poor man's Spartacus. But I like it.

I was going to post the trailer, but I really like the title sequence...

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Post by: RottingCorpse on March 05, 2013, 07:17:10 PM
So after Riddick, this?
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Post by: nacho on March 05, 2013, 09:51:53 PM
So after Riddick, this?

If you weren't such a Snowquester pussy, we'd be doing it tonight!

But, sure!
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Post by: nacho on March 05, 2013, 10:03:16 PM
And don't those opening credits sell it? A little bit of the All-father, a little bit of the Sirens...

No Sirens yet, but our main guy is somewhat haunted by Odin. All in his head. No fantasy here. But it's the undying and universal principal of Crazy Man Imagines He Sees God.

Of course, this particular god is the All-father! And Odin's a bad motherfucker. He's basically Gandolf the Grey. Except insane.
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Post by: nacho on March 05, 2013, 10:49:49 PM
Oh...what really makes episode 2 is the depiction of the first Viking raid on England. Infamously, it was an undefended monastery. It's just a great footnote in history. The monks had no idea what was coming...even as they watched it come. And this small band of Vikings slaughtered them like sheep, tore the place apart, and left it a smoldering pile of rubble. Also (perhaps infamously), that first raid introduces the Vikings to Christianity... Which largely acts as a moral disease in their culture. Though, for the following 400 years, to their benefit. But it's the beginning of the end. We move from the living gods of the north to the dead god Christ.

Not depicted is how they returned with so much gold and goodies that they were almost at the waterline the whole way back...which is insane considering this group of 12 or so guys are the first people ever to sail the sea away from the sight of land. These guys are in a boat smaller than a small yacht, with no decks, no cover from the weather, on the North Sea for the first time in human history...and not 100% sure how to get back. Just kind of reversing the instructions to get west, really, and hoping that makes sense.

I mean, who does that? Really?
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Post by: RottingCorpse on March 06, 2013, 11:03:05 AM
Missus RC has already watched the first two episodes! I'm behind!
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Post by: nacho on March 20, 2013, 05:24:18 PM
Ugh...Farscape ended 10 years ago. Crazy.

And a bit sad...
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Post by: nacho on March 26, 2013, 10:40:00 AM
What a weekend! Walking Dead finale, Doctor Who is back, Game of Thrones jumps up and down on our chests and screams! Yay!
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Post by: nacho on April 06, 2013, 01:06:57 PM
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Gillian Anderson, whose “X-Files” doctor character spent lots of time hanging around with FBI agents, will play Hannibal Lecter’s psychoanalyst in NBC’s Hannibal, according to Entertainment Weekly.

Watching Hannibal now.

It's strangely self-aware. Which sort of ruins it. It errs on the side of Red Dragon...which is a mistake. Oh, where art thou Manhunter?
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Post by: RottingCorpse on April 06, 2013, 10:54:28 PM
How's Scully?
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Post by: nacho on April 07, 2013, 10:49:44 AM
How's Scully?

Not in it. She's starring in The Fall, which is the other (the fourth!!) serial killer series currently airing, all of which are exactly the same.
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Post by: nacho on April 10, 2013, 06:19:17 PM
http://www.blastr.com/2013-4-10/syfy-developing-7-new-series-aliens-magic-angels-and-more

Seven new shows from sci-fi... With one that sounds passable (barely):

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Clandestine

This series follows a group of left for dead outlaws, who hide out in an abandoned Coalition ship. Before long they use the ship to pose as Coalition officers, until they discover a huge conspiracy surrounding the real agenda of the Coalition. This one is definitely intriguing, and sounds like it has a solid Farscape and Firefly vibe. Gale Anne Hurd (The Walking Dead) will executive produce this one, making it one to watch.

And it only sounds passable because it's Blake's 7.
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Post by: nacho on April 12, 2013, 05:32:51 PM
The big problem I have with Continuum is that we're being asked to root for a murdering agent of a corporate-run authoritarian future that makes Orwell's worst nightmare seem like the Puppy Bowl.

The show seems aware of that, but isn't clever enough to play on it properly. They're obsessed with making the terrorists (who, despite their methods, are essentially freedom fighters and mankind's last best hope) into evil maniacs.

So... I guess Continuum is pro corporate authoritarianism.

While this problem remains, it appears to be a bit premature on my part to pass a verdict. One thing we learned from season 1 is that the Smoking Man -- who is the corporate god in the future, and the unwitting and naively innocent teenager helping our girl in the present day -- is the Big Bad. But, wisely (though, at first, it seemed like hubris), they opted to make his arc long, complicated, and, ultimately, intriguing... Especially now that the show gets a second season. A season that, from the looks of this trailer, has learned from its mistakes:


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Post by: nacho on April 17, 2013, 12:59:15 PM
In their attempts to fill the huge vacuum left by Spartacus, we get DaVinci's Demons (not very good) and this upcoming series from Michael Bay:

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Post by: nacho on May 01, 2013, 08:27:29 AM
The big problem I have with Continuum is that we're being asked to root for a murdering agent of a corporate-run authoritarian future that makes Orwell's worst nightmare seem like the Puppy Bowl.

The show seems aware of that, but isn't clever enough to play on it properly. They're obsessed with making the terrorists (who, despite their methods, are essentially freedom fighters and mankind's last best hope) into evil maniacs.

So... I guess Continuum is pro corporate authoritarianism.

While this problem remains, it appears to be a bit premature on my part to pass a verdict. One thing we learned from season 1 is that the Smoking Man -- who is the corporate god in the future, and the unwitting and naively innocent teenager helping our girl in the present day -- is the Big Bad. But, wisely (though, at first, it seemed like hubris), they opted to make his arc long, complicated, and, ultimately, intriguing... Especially now that the show gets a second season. A season that, from the looks of this trailer, has learned from its mistakes:


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So far (two episodes in) season 2 is pretty good. Our girl's been heavily made over for US audiences, I think. Her character now operates slightly outside (or outside and beside?) the law. The baddies are splintered... And we get to the meet of the show: Alec's journey to world domination and ultimate evil. Or...maybe the opposite, if he heed's whatever his future self warned him about (we know half the message, but not the solution presented, which is the perfect way to string us along).
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Post by: nacho on May 02, 2013, 08:49:34 AM
This is probably the start of Stewart's retirement... Whatever will the armchair liberals do if they don't have the Daily Show to give them the news?

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About two months ago, we learned that Jon Stewart was surprisingly going to take the summer off from The Daily Show to direct a feature film about the true story of a journalist who was taken prisoner in Iraq for 118 days. We already knew that John Oliver would be taking over, but today Comedy Central announced his start date: June 10. He'll man the ship until September 3, when Stewart triumphantly returns. Oliver's first week's guests will be Seth Rogen, Armando Iannucci, Mavis Staples, and Fareed Zakaria.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 08, 2013, 05:35:59 PM
Yeah. I like John Oliver, but I'm not sure he's the replacement.
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Post by: nacho on May 08, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
Oh, yeah. I'll watch it.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 25, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
Save it for me!
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Post by: nacho on June 25, 2013, 04:06:08 PM
Save it for me!

Do you want it in the magic place? Or shall we hold hands tonight while wearing flesh masks made to look like my mother and watch it?
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Post by: nacho on July 02, 2013, 07:41:01 PM
Um...so I also liked episode two of Under the Dome. It's like a weird hybrid of Twilight Zone and cheesy PA.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 02, 2013, 10:26:03 PM
No. Fucking. Way.

http://www.syfy.com/videos/Syfy%20Movies/Promos%20&%20Trailers/vid:2659154
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Post by: nacho on July 03, 2013, 07:41:47 AM
No. Fucking. Way.

http://www.syfy.com/videos/Syfy%20Movies/Promos%20&%20Trailers/vid:2659154

Awesome...
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Post by: nacho on July 08, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
I suddenly felt the need for a flashback...


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Post by: nacho on July 18, 2013, 05:35:44 PM
Time to get ready for pilot season! io9 covers some of the (horrible!) sci-fi pilots coming up...

http://io9.com/which-new-show-will-rock-your-tv-set-first-impressions-828600560

They all sound EXACTLY THE SAME! Ugh...

I don't know what hurts me the most... turning Tomorrow People into a CW soap opera, or ripping off Starman, Robocop, and Person of Interest in almost one breath.
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Post by: Disco Dust on August 14, 2013, 01:30:41 PM
Have those with WV ties (i.e. Nacho & RC) caught any of the episodes of the new "reality TV" show on the History Channel featuring the modern-day Hatfields and McCoys?

About ten minutes of the pilot was enough to turn me off for good  :pukeright:
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Post by: nacho on August 14, 2013, 03:48:55 PM
Have those with WV ties (i.e. Nacho & RC) caught any of the episodes of the new "reality TV" show on the History Channel featuring the modern-day Hatfields and McCoys?

About ten minutes of the pilot was enough to turn me off for good  :pukeright:

Woah...what's the show?
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 14, 2013, 04:21:41 PM
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Post by: nacho on August 15, 2013, 07:40:51 AM
Oh...how boring. I always hope someone finally recognizes Jacob Young. Now he could do a reality show out of WVA that'll make your hair curl!
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Post by: nacho on August 29, 2013, 05:55:37 PM
Man...I got hooked on The Newsroom.

And Sorkin broke down the NSA shenanigans a year ago!


(I can't say it around most of the people I associate with, but I do think Snowden's a bit of a hero...)
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Post by: nacho on September 01, 2013, 02:02:09 PM
I could get behind this... Some remakes should be made. Especially when the technology is 40 years out of date. A modern day Westworld could be downright terrifying.

That said, was it the idea that made Westworld or was it Yul Brynner?


HBO has given a pilot commitment to a Westworld series from J.J. Abrams, ad Robot, Jonathan Nolan, Jerry Weintraub and Warner Bros. TV.
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Inspired by the 1973 movie from Michael Chrichton, the series as described as “a dark odyssey about the dawn of artificial consciousness and the future of sin.” The movie, which starred Yul Brynner, Richard Benjamin and James Brolin, was about a near-future amusement park where guests could live out fantasies in various worlds, including the western-themed West World, populated by androids. However, a malfunction spreads through the system and the androids begin to kill the guests.
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Post by: nacho on September 14, 2013, 12:11:42 PM
Key and Peele are back this week!

http://www.vulture.com/2013/09/key-and-peele-football-names.html
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Post by: monkey! on September 18, 2013, 02:50:45 PM
Key and Peele are back this week!

http://www.vulture.com/2013/09/key-and-peele-football-names.html

YAY!
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Post by: nacho on September 18, 2013, 03:14:36 PM
Everyone's talking about Fudge.
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Post by: nacho on September 25, 2013, 07:37:49 AM
Wow... The Goldbergs is weird. It's a horrible show that wants to be the Wonder Years. Unwatchable.

Except... The whole 80s nostalgia is so well done, I'm enthralled.
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Post by: nacho on September 25, 2013, 03:03:57 PM
So The Site That Cannot Be Named said Lucky 7 sucked... But it doesn't! Watching it now, and it's pretty fun.

It's nothing groundbreaking, but I'm certainly involved and enjoying it.

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Post by: nacho on October 11, 2013, 10:28:55 AM
When it comes to a trailer for their new season...Archer kind of knows their target audience inside and out.

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Post by: nacho on October 23, 2013, 04:00:24 PM
What's awesome about this list is that they call on Buck Rogers and the still-very-scary episode Space Vampire. And then they go on to mention Dragon's Domain -- which is on the Space: 1999 lunchbox RC got me! I showed it to you, right RC? Great stuff.

And Twin Peaks gets two mentions! As does NewWho. While I agree with mostly everything on the list, I always hate to see The X-Files get the #1 spot. The love for The X-Files is so strange...the show has not aged well at all.



http://io9.com/top-25-scariest-science-fiction-and-fantasy-tv-episodes-1450803057
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Post by: RottingCorpse on October 23, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
Without even looking at the list, "Home" is #1, isn't it?
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Post by: nacho on October 23, 2013, 04:52:56 PM
Without even looking at the list, "Home" is #1, isn't it?

Yes! Ha!
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Post by: RottingCorpse on October 25, 2013, 05:41:27 PM
Apparently, there's something coming out called The Pete Holmes Show that we all need to be watching.

http://splitsider.com/2013/10/watch-pete-holmes-fire-the-x-men-one-by-one/ (http://splitsider.com/2013/10/watch-pete-holmes-fire-the-x-men-one-by-one/)

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Post by: nacho on October 26, 2013, 10:50:38 AM
Leaping onto the True Blood wagon...


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Jonathan Rhys Meyers is to play the titular vamp in NBC and Sky Living’s 10-episode Dracula adaptation

In the year that sees The Twilight Saga finally draw to a close, you might say that NBCUniversal and Sky Living’s hop onto the vamp bandwagon is a bit, er, dilatory. That said, interest in Bram Stoker’s 1897 Dracula has never really waned, so now probably seems as good a time as any to produce a new TV adaptation.

Jonathan Rhys Meyers (The Tudors) will be playing the lead role, and the series will reportedly kick off with Drac's arrival in 1890s London rather than Jonathan Harker’s journey to the Count's distant castle. In this incarnation, Dracula is posing as an American entrepreneur seeking to bring modern technology to Victorian England, all the while planning to wreak revenge on the descendants of his former enemies. Sounds like a good few departures have been taken from the novel, then.

Dracula comes based on a script by comic book writer Cole Haddon (The Strange Case of Mr Hyde), that’s been described as “…dark, twisted and intelligent” by Sky’s Head of Drama. The series is co-produced by NBCUniversal and Sky Living, and due to go into production later this year.

This is weird. It's like they're trying to copy Revenge, but also doing Dracula, and all in 1896 America (where old Vlad is posing as a young American industrialist inspired by Tesla).

That said, episode one is watchable and interesting. It's got me hooked... Though I'm gunshy after SHIELD.
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Post by: nacho on November 02, 2013, 09:02:07 AM
Episode two of Dracula. It's still fun... We're back in London now, and I like the whole conspiracy twist. In fact...the Stoker story is so poorly done that you can go ahead and reboot it for 2013 seasonal-arc NBC "please be the next Lost/Revenge" network TV and end up with something greatly improved.
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Post by: nacho on November 02, 2013, 04:23:32 PM
The title of io9's review says it all! (Italics theirs.)

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This is the best TV series about Dracula buying a coolant company ever
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Post by: nacho on November 18, 2013, 10:11:18 AM
Wow...so the Almost Human pilot has to be the worst hour of sci-fi TV I have ever seen. And, yes, I'm including Starlost and Salvage One and many failed pilots in that estimation.

I don't mind that they ripped off Blade Runner and Robots of Death and parts of Runaway without even bothering to, you know, change or update the scenes, but it was such a ham-handed, poorly written, idiotic piece of shit. It was like when the It's Always Sunny gang did Lethal Weapon 5 and had long comical scenes of over-exposition. Then throw in a plotline that was so rushed it felt like we had missed earlier episodes at various points throughout the episode. Then throw in just general idiotic...AGH! AAAHHHH!!!

  :violent2:
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 18, 2013, 05:41:24 PM
Yeah...not good.
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Post by: nacho on November 22, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
The title of io9's review says it all! (Italics theirs.)

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This is the best TV series about Dracula buying a coolant company ever

Ten reasons to watch Dracula (and I agree with them all!)

http://io9.com/10-reasons-you-should-be-watching-dracula-right-now-1469498816
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Post by: nacho on November 24, 2013, 11:01:40 AM
I've ignored the new Atlantis series on the Beeb because Merlin and all that shit is insane and stupid.

So they premiered it on BBC America after Dr. Who and...it's a very well done sci-fi/fantasy about someone from the present day sucked back in time to the last days of Atlantis. And it's...okay. Sort of. You can tell it has that Merlin influence, but it has this sort of nostalgic 80s feel to it.

Only 20 minutes in, though...
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Post by: nacho on December 13, 2013, 01:02:38 PM
Community lost their showrunner and their writers and season 4 was unwatchable... I quit, and so did many others. It almost killed the show and, then, amid apologies, they brought some of the behind the scenes folks back. And this makes me want to start watching again:

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Post by: nacho on January 08, 2014, 10:50:15 AM
Intelligence!

Watching it now. It's basically Six Million Dollar Man meets Continuum set in Sherlock Holmes' memory palace.

And...not bad, 7 minutes in.
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Post by: nacho on February 24, 2014, 11:08:02 AM
Top ten best moments from the first week of the Tonight Show...

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2014/02/tonight-show-fallon-best-moments/
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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 28, 2014, 01:39:11 PM
I'm going to just stop researching real life shit for two years. It's a waste of my time.

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Bret Easton Ellis and Rob Zombie team up for TV project on the Manson murders

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10667362/Bret-Easton-Ellis-and-Rob-Zombie-team-up-for-TV-project-on-the-Manson-murders.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10667362/Bret-Easton-Ellis-and-Rob-Zombie-team-up-for-TV-project-on-the-Manson-murders.html)
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Post by: nacho on February 28, 2014, 02:04:14 PM
I'm going to just stop researching real life shit for two years. It's a waste of my time.


No! Just research what I tell you to research. Like Clara! A story that has everything -- presidential-level conspiracy theories, love triangles, fucking sword battles -- and nobody ever talks about it.
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Post by: nacho on March 12, 2014, 08:17:42 AM
I feel like we should just make a 500 page "Abramsverse" thread so we can merge half the threads in the TV forum into it.

So.... Believe! Abrams doing a weird combo of Firestarter, Alias, and Utopia. The first episode is almost line-by-line predictable... But it's Abrams, so I'll give it a few more episodes. Because it's also kind of good in that way the early episodes of PoI were kind of good.
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Post by: nacho on March 18, 2014, 08:21:00 AM
I like that season three of Continuum opens up with a Back to the Future 2 style time travel adventure, where the characters from a week after the events in the episode travel back to...save...themselves...and destroy a few timelines along the way and now...I don't know what. It's like classic sci-fi TV where, if you stop and analyze the logic behind the plotlines, you realize that the main characters have died and been replaced by themselves multiple times.
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Post by: nacho on March 21, 2014, 08:46:03 AM
Wait...so...wait...the From Dusk Till Dawn TV series (created, written, and directed by Rodriguez to launch his own channel -- the El Ray Network) is actually very good. It's R-rated vampire shit that isn't True Blood and involves violence and action.

Weird.
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Post by: nacho on March 25, 2014, 02:34:10 PM
A very even-handed (and unforgiving) review of Vikings season two (premiering tonight) from the A.V. Club:

http://www.avclub.com/review/vikings-looks-west-worldly-second-season-201561?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds

WARNING! Review spoils everything from last season...and this season!

It's clear that they really like Vikings, despite all the faults. I agree with them...

God...season two of Vikings is just amazing. Miles better than the first season in terms of handling the story and the characters...the love for history/love of the English countryside remains.

So, historically, our main guy is doomed and his kids, in revenge, eventually set up the Danelaw. As far as I can tell, they're angling for the long term story so we'll continue on with the next generation. 

And renewed for season three! Awesome.
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Post by: nacho on March 27, 2014, 11:18:09 AM
So...Community did an entire episode as a GI Joe cartoon. Complete with post-credits PSA. I came back to this season because they sheepishly rehired the showrunner, but it's felt like too little too late. The show lost several cast members, and has become a moody, meta trip largely about how bringing back Harmon was....too little too late.

Strangely, and perhaps directly related to the network's guilt, the show's been given free license to be as crazy as possible. They had a D&D bottle episode, a Zardoz-themed episode, a Brave New World-themed episode... And now a cartoon episode. All lovingly and loyally aping the source material. Which, on one hand, is fascinating, and on the other is confusing given the bizarrely self-referential unfunniness, as seen below. Overall, the rise an fall...and rise...and fall...of Community is one of the great untold weird moments in TV history, all while fiercely saying it's going to do "six seasons and a movie" no matter what. The show has promised that since the beginning, and, regardless of ratings, firings, trouble on set, and outright revolution in the ranks...it's almost succeeded.

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Post by: nacho on April 04, 2014, 11:01:03 AM
So... The PSA above did not impress me.

The opening credits, however...

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Post by: nacho on April 07, 2014, 01:24:16 PM
The latest from the Abrams-verse (Lindelof) is a post-Rapture series from HBO:


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Post by: nacho on April 10, 2014, 01:31:40 PM
Wow...what? Stephen Colbert is replacing Letterman? That's crazy.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on April 12, 2014, 12:50:53 PM
Ballsy. All the reports say he's dropping the persona, but isn't his success based on the persona? I say this as a huge Colbert fan.

I'm not saying he can't do it, but Fallon stepped into The Tonight Show without having to rebrand himself and his schtick. It's a bold move by CBS.
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Post by: nacho on April 12, 2014, 06:21:44 PM
Yeah...dropping the persona is going to be weird. And has failed before, when Groucho Marx tried to do it.

I think it'll go horribly wrong. He's become that persona in his professional life. Without it, he'll just be another smug Maddow/Stewart. And he won't be able to stand up against the youth-culture Fallon machine.
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Post by: nacho on April 13, 2014, 09:34:23 AM
Leviathan Wakes has been on my wishlist forever! Guess I'd better pick it up...

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Syfy has given a direct-to-series order to an exciting-sounding new project based on an acclaimed sci-fi book series. The cable network has ordered 10 episodes of The Expanse, from Academy Award-nominated screenwriting duo Mark Fergus and Hawk Ostby (Children of Men, Iron Man) and Alcon Television Group. The project has been described by industry insiders as “Game of Thrones in space” — not so much because of the specifics of the plot, but because it tells a dramatic sprawling grown-up story within a popular fantasy genre that’s based on a respected series of novels.

The logline: “A thriller set two hundred years in the future, The Expanse follows the case of a missing young woman who brings a hardened detective and a rogue ship’s captain together in a race across the solar system to expose the greatest conspiracy in human history.”

The Expanse is based on a series of books by James S.A. Corey. The most well-known title is probably the first in the series, Leviathan Wakes, which has been praised for reinventing and updating the old-school Star Wars/Firefly-style space opera. Syfy won a bidding war with another content producer to acquire the project.
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Post by: nacho on April 13, 2014, 09:51:21 AM
Yeah...dropping the persona is going to be weird. And has failed before, when Groucho Marx tried to do it.

I think it'll go horribly wrong. He's become that persona in his professional life. Without it, he'll just be another smug Maddow/Stewart. And he won't be able to stand up against the youth-culture Fallon machine.

Speaking of cracks in the persona... Here's a hilarious early video from TDS where Colbert can't make it through the skit without cracking up Carol Burnett Show style:

http://www.vulture.com/2014/04/late-night-hosts-react-to-colberts-new-gig.html
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Post by: nacho on April 14, 2014, 07:48:23 PM
So I'm loving Silicon Valley... It's the geek comedy for people with an IQ higher than 60, which is the current geek bar set by Big Bang Theory.
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Post by: Sirharles on April 14, 2014, 09:42:31 PM
So I'm loving Silicon Valley... It's the geek comedy for people with an IQ higher than 60, which is the current geek bar set by Big Bang Theory.

Why do you hate everything that is popular?
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Post by: nacho on April 15, 2014, 08:05:22 AM
So I'm loving Silicon Valley... It's the geek comedy for people with an IQ higher than 60, which is the current geek bar set by Big Bang Theory.

Why do you hate everything that is popular?

I don't. Most of what I watch is popular. Hell,  some of the highest rated shows on TV are in these forums and full of me geeking out about them. You know this.

Big Bang Theory is dumb, formulaic, and has played its one note joke about a million times over. I dare you to single out 10 episodes as unique, different from the rest, and instantly recognizable by others. Even BTVS can do that!

We're watching it just to see the girls in cocktail dresses at this point. And, if we're very lucky, we'll get a Bazinga, but that costs extra these days.
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Post by: Sirharles on April 15, 2014, 10:08:06 AM
I should have put a "insert sarcasm" comment on the end of that.  Stupid internet....can't read my thoughts...yet.
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Post by: nacho on April 15, 2014, 10:15:41 AM
You need the Samsung Prime Thoughtbit 6 and the GS Emotion App.

Of course...the last person who used all that became a being of pure energy bent on destroying the galaxy...
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Post by: Sirharles on April 15, 2014, 10:30:23 AM
You need the Samsung Prime Thoughtbit 6 and the GS Emotion App.

Of course...the last person who used all that became a being of pure energy bent on destroying the galaxy...

And now we're back to Stargate.
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Post by: nacho on April 15, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
Hallowed is the Thoughtbit 6!
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Post by: nacho on April 15, 2014, 02:45:50 PM
A serial killer expert discusses the possibility that Mad men will ultimately end with the Manson murders (or is some sort of parallel/homage):

http://www.vulture.com/2014/04/serial-killer-expert-analyzes-mad-men-for-clues.html

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Post by: RottingCorpse on April 21, 2014, 10:38:16 AM
I'll have to explore this further...
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Post by: nacho on April 24, 2014, 03:22:05 PM
Ridley Scott to rip off Stargate!

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HBO is teaming with director Ridley Scott to make Pharaoh, a show about aliens hanging out in ancient Egypt, making pyramids, and presumably getting worshipped as animal-headed gods by the local populace.

The show was created by David Shulner, a.k.a.the guy who made the modern Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde medical drama Do No Harm, which was canceled by NBC after only two episodes — always an auspicious sign. Scott will direct the pilot and executive produce the show.

I'm not particularly optimistic about Pharaoh, but I am happy to support any Ridley Scott project that keeps him too busy to make a Blade Runner sequel.
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Post by: nacho on April 30, 2014, 08:39:31 AM
Fargo! Man...I had my doubts. I mean, come on! But the show does everything right, and the pilot was just as brilliant as the movie. Billy Bob is awesomely evil, and Freeman doing William Macy was rather spell-binding, actually.

Very surprised, and happily so.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 01, 2014, 12:13:01 PM
What does anybody know about The Writer's Room? We're looking at competition of this book show I'm helping develop.

http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/70297678 (http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/70297678)
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Post by: nacho on May 01, 2014, 12:28:07 PM
It has nothign to do with the book show. They just profile the writers of big shows. Like, gosh, what made you guys think of blue meth? Golly gee!
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Post by: nacho on May 08, 2014, 04:35:02 PM
RC, you're the conspiracy master... I keep hearing how Colbert has been conspiring to take over Letterman for 10 years, and everything he's done has been solely designed for that purpose. It's weird. The more the conspiracy morphs, the more it becomes bizarrely sinister.

(Which probably means Colbert's interns have started it.)
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Post by: nacho on May 09, 2014, 08:14:33 AM

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Starz has finally set the premiere date of the eagerly anticipated TV adaption of Diana Gabaldon’s bestselling book series being executive produced by Ron Moore (Helix, Battlestar Galactica). The 16-episode first season will premiere on August 9th at 9/8c.

The story follows Claire Randall (Super 8), a combat nurse in 1945, who while on holiday attempting to repair a strained relationship with her husband Frank (Tobias Menzies, C asino Royale), suddenly finds herself in 1743 Scotland and striking up a relationship with Scottish rebel Jamie (Sam Heughan, A Princess for Christmas).
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 12, 2014, 10:05:47 AM
How did I miss that there was a remake of Rosemary's Baby with Zoe Saldana showing on NBC last night?
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Post by: nacho on May 12, 2014, 10:12:58 AM
How did I miss that there was a remake of Rosemary's Baby with Zoe Saldana showing on NBC last night?

I have no idea because it got more advertising than the first Obama campaign.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 12, 2014, 11:48:20 AM
Also, previews for this, the new X-men movie, and the new season of Falling Skies have been on every commercial break during the NBA playoffs.

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Post by: nacho on May 12, 2014, 11:58:34 AM
The Last Ship has taken over the Post-Apocalypse TV thread! They've been playing footsie with us for over a year...and now they won't shut up!

And I'm just confused by how hard they push Falling Skies and how little effort they put in to the story.
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Post by: nacho on May 12, 2014, 03:19:38 PM
How did I miss that there was a remake of Rosemary's Baby with Zoe Saldana showing on NBC last night?

Further to this, and your post about NBA advertising for hopelessly mediocre shows, let's talk about the somewhat new phenomenon where we're totally exhausted, bored, and disinterested in the show, months before it airs, because the ad campaign saturation level is so high. 
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 12, 2014, 05:16:42 PM
How did I miss that there was a remake of Rosemary's Baby with Zoe Saldana showing on NBC last night?

Further to this, and your post about NBA advertising for hopelessly mediocre shows, let's talk about the somewhat new phenomenon where we're totally exhausted, bored, and disinterested in the show, months before it airs, because the ad campaign saturation level is so high. 

I call it Amazing Spider-Man 2 syndrome.

It means we can get sick of Constantine months before it premieres as well:

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Post by: nacho on May 12, 2014, 05:20:53 PM
I'm still recovering from the movie!
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Post by: nacho on May 28, 2014, 08:15:10 AM
I was just thinking the other day how bizarre and insane UFO was and if it could exist as a remake today...but then I realized that the Danger 5 folks are sort of doing a spiritual remake of all things early-era-Anderson:

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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 28, 2014, 09:59:20 AM
1980 was so... groovy.
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Post by: nacho on May 28, 2014, 10:20:29 AM
1970's version of 1980, at least. Strange that Gerry Anderson then changed his tune and 1975's version of 1999 is an ultra-modern political nightmare fiercely divided by a nuclear waste problem.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 28, 2014, 10:48:01 AM
So... he envisioned 2014 then.
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Post by: nacho on May 28, 2014, 04:00:08 PM
I can't keep track of what's coming out or when, so here's a post collecting my "watchlist" shows.

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Last Ship: June 22nd

Defiance: June 19th

Danger 5: TBA (rumor says August, SBS says "mid-2014," and they have confirmed that filming is complete)

Doctor Who: August, TBA

Utopia (UK): The season two DVD is up for pre-order in the UK. This means we'll certainly get it anytime between June and August. My money is that they'll ride Doctor Who's genre coattails.

Utopia (US): TBA (rumored to be closely linked to GoT's next season -- April 2015)

Falling Skies: June 22nd

The Leftovers: June 29th

The Strain: July 13th

Ascension: November 14th

TWD: October, TBA

The Expanse: 2015

The Last Man on Earth: 2015


PS -- I have no idea why more people aren't talking about Ascension!

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Post by: nacho on May 30, 2014, 10:51:02 AM
This is the big news this week!

http://www.wired.com/2014/05/reading-rainbow-kickstarter/

(And I almost gave money myself -- but he reached his goal in, like, 3 seconds.)

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Reading Rainbow is coming back, on computers and in the classroom. As of today, a Kickstarter to bring the show back has raised more than double its initial goal of $1 million. That’s enough cash to bring the educational program back as a cross-platform app, complete with a digital library, interactive resources, and virtual field trips—and to offer it for free to cash-strapped schools.

Hosted by actor LeVar Burton (aka Star Trek‘s Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge), Reading Rainbow ran on PBS from 1983 through 2006, and for another three years in reruns, garnering a Peabody and a staggering 26 Emmys, and leaving an indelible impression on generations of kids. Burton continued to advocate for childhood literacy, and in 2012, Reading Rainbow returned as an iPad app. By January of this year, it was the No. 1 educational and kids’ app for iPad. With the new Kickstarter, Burton wants to extend the app’s reach, making it platform-agnostic and putting it in the hands of kids without access to tablets or computers at home.

There’s something a little sad about seeing Reading Rainbow on Kickstarter—even if, as Burton points out, the program has always been made possible by the support of viewers. At the same time, though, its success is a striking commentary on both the project’s continuing relevance—and the joint power of nostalgia and altruism.

“The fact that so many people have become a part of this, and are donating $1, $5, $10—this is, I believe, a response to the need for people to feel like they can make a difference,” Burton wrote in a Reddit AMA earlier today. “It’s been interesting, because along this journey we have heard from many people in terms of our business model—do you think Reading Rainbow is still relevant? Yesterday proved beyond the shadow of a doubt the relevancy of Reading Rainbow‘s mission.”

The Reading Rainbow Kickstarter will be active through July 2. Check out Burton’s reaction to the campaign hitting its $1 million goal in the video below.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 30, 2014, 12:52:07 PM
There's been so much this week that's given me hope for humanity. It's nice.
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Post by: nacho on June 07, 2014, 05:15:31 PM
I can't keep track of what's coming out or when, so here's a post collecting my "watchlist" shows.

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Last Ship: June 22nd

Defiance: June 19th

Danger 5: TBA (rumor says August, SBS says "mid-2014," and they have confirmed that filming is complete)

Doctor Who: August, TBA

Utopia (UK): July!

Utopia (US): TBA (rumored to be closely linked to GoT's next season -- April 2015)

Falling Skies: June 22nd

The Leftovers: June 29th

The Strain: July 13th

Ascension: November 14th

TWD: October, TBA

The Expanse: 2015

The Last Man on Earth: 2015



Updated with Utopia news! July airdate for season 2... And something happening at 2:20am Monday morning...

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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 18, 2014, 02:52:12 PM
Can I get a resounding, "Hell yes?" And let's get Gervais and company to do the voices.

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2014/06/17/bbc-to-revive-danger-mouse/ (http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2014/06/17/bbc-to-revive-danger-mouse/)

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BBC to Revive ‘Danger Mouse’

Brace yourselves, ’80s animation fans: The BBC has announced it’s dusting off Danger Mouse, with some help from FreemantleMedia and Boulder Media.

Few details were revealed, but FreemantleMedia said that the super-spy’s familiar eye patch will be replaced by an updated i-patch featuring all kinds of technological goodies.

Originally airing from 1981 to 1992, Danger Mouse followed the exploits of the world’s best secret agent and his timid assistant Penfold, who had a tendency to get in the way or, worse, get kidnapped.

The series and its spinoff Count Duckula aired in the United States on Nickelodeon.

“The thrills, spills and comedy of this landmark international animated series are all still here but this rebooted version will be brought up-to-date for today’s tech-savvy and content-hungry kids,” Freemantle’s Rick Glanker said in a statement. “In this new 21st-century version the laughs are set to be even louder as the world’s smallest secret agent faces mightier missions, voracious villains and knee-trembling threats.”

The new Danger Mouse will debut in 2015 on CBBC.
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Post by: nacho on June 26, 2014, 10:19:30 AM
Tyrant!

The younger son of a Generic Middle Eastern Country has fled amicably, apparently, from his father's oppressive, opulent regime to marry a blonde, have a normal family, and become a pediatrician in California.

He's lured back to their little kingdom or whatever it is because his mom is Alice Krige and you don't say no to Alice Krige or else she eats your eyeballs. While back, his dad drops dead, and his insanely evil brother gets his dick bitten off and knocked out of commission. Now our reluctant (anti?)hero is facing the potential inheritance of their fractured, about-to-Arab-Spring-into-hell kingdom, and must also deal with his own internal demons.

Begin soap opera....see you next week. Very enjoyable.
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Post by: nacho on July 01, 2014, 10:54:02 AM
I can't keep track of what's coming out or when, so here's a post collecting my "watchlist" shows.

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Last Ship: Episode two still strong -- reviewed in the PA Tv thread.

Defiance: More of the same. More Julie Benz sideboob.

Danger 5: TBA (rumor says August, SBS says "mid-2014," and they have confirmed that filming is complete)

Doctor Who: August 23rd!

Utopia (UK): July! The DVD release is slotted for August 25th, and season two is six episodes.

Utopia (US): TBA (rumored to be closely linked to GoT's next season -- April 2015)

Falling Skies: Why am I watching this show?

The Leftovers: Bad. Forget it.

The Strain: July 13th

Ascension: November 14th

TWD: October 12th

The Expanse: 2015

The Last Man on Earth: 2015



Updated!

(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/drw12.jpg)
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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 01, 2014, 11:06:52 AM
JLC is soooooooooo cute.
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Post by: nacho on July 01, 2014, 11:11:36 AM
That's her job.

This will be her last season, I bet.
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Post by: nacho on July 01, 2014, 02:23:07 PM
JLC is soooooooooo cute.


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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 01, 2014, 02:40:25 PM
That's not nearly as cute as the other awkward posed picture.
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Post by: nacho on July 01, 2014, 02:46:39 PM
It's much more British!
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Post by: nacho on July 10, 2014, 07:50:26 AM
Halle Berry's Extant has many, many problems...

So we're about 50 years in the future, and she's on a very posh 13 month solo space mission doing botany things or something and gets to live on a big space station. She's visited by Starman (alien in the guise of her dead lover. Seen it. Taped it.) but, on the station's camera's, she's all alone. She deletes all that crazy shit and tra-la-la.

When she returns to Earth she's pregnant. This gets out, and now she has to try and explain what happened...starting with why the cameras got deleted.

Meanwhile, her current husband has created Small Wonder -- a perfectly sentient android boy -- and is using that prototype to get funding from Weyland-Yutani EvilCorp. Evilcorp, of course, asks practical questions, like how do you stop an army of androids from killing us, and our scientist plays the persecuted genius who just wants to create children for childless couples, and Evilcorp is written as bible thumping idiots while his idiotic view of what is, yes, the start of the robot apocalypse is written as what we're supposed to identify with. He might as well be standing next to a fucking Cylon, but we're to sympathize with the character? 

There's a Deep Mystery about all this, and the title plays on the word "extinct" before morphing to "extant" so, yeah, it's either angels trying to save us or aliens trying to save themselves. Yawn. And the Starchild in Berry's belly will be the key to whatever.

I'm not even bothering with the second episode. Mainly because Berry's best friend is played by the gal who plays Control in PoI so, every time I see her, I scream, "Shoot her, Shaw!!!"
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Post by: nacho on July 23, 2014, 11:34:23 AM
The big problem I have with Tyrant is that the wife was such a fucking bitch when he wanted to flee the country and, now that she convinced him to stay, he's involved in the family fuckery, and she's being a bitch about that. Even though he clearly warned her that they had to get as far away as possible.

Also, they've just given up on the two kids. There was the feeble gay subplot with the son, but that seems to have been abandoned...and the daughter, I think, got Chuck Cunninghamed.

It's really a very annoying show.
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Post by: monkey! on July 26, 2014, 08:08:08 AM
Season 8 of Big Bang Theory should be coming up soon. I have a small wishlist for this show...

Raj becomes a disgruntled alcoholic, Penny begins to pile on weight and Leonard no longer finds her physically attractive; Sheldon carries on as ever, oblivious, until he is arrested for serial murder in the last episode, and Howard gets charged for peeping into girls' locker rooms.
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Post by: nacho on July 26, 2014, 05:56:20 PM
I gave up on this show. Which is hard because it's designed to stop you from giving up by dressing Penny up as a slut every 14th episode.
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Post by: nacho on July 28, 2014, 07:52:09 AM
So, Manhattan... Great idea -- a drama set at Los Alamos in 1943, and the weird lives all those guys (and their families) had. What they've done though and made it this all-American patriotic thing, with no sense of history. It's a bit meandering and I'm not engaged at all.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on July 30, 2014, 05:47:35 PM
Under the Dumb update: just watched this season's kick off!

Lady cop dies.
Bad mayor turns good after the dome manipulates things with magnetic pulses.
Everyone's fine except for DJ who wants justice for his dead co-worker (who appears in a vision to bad mayor), so mayor deputizes him! Nevermind that bad mayor killed the co-worker.

Two new characters who have not been involved until now:
science teacher -- she's been tracking the dome with detailed notes since day one and believes in SCIENCE and ONLY SCIENCE (dome-denier)
attractive male hermit -- he's been living in a cabin in the woods because "something happened", turns out he's bad mayor's brother-in-law (and junior's uncle)...setting up a love triangle between himself and Barbie (a man) and the woman who's husband Barbie killed (don't worry she has forgiven him).

Mrs. McGraw wanted to watch another one...I told her I can only take one of these a night.

We've got 5 or 6 more to get current.
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Post by: nacho on July 31, 2014, 08:18:31 AM
You're insane, Reggie. I'll call the paramedics.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 31, 2014, 11:11:50 AM
Is this a cry for help, Reggie? Is this what you've been trying to tell me?
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Post by: nacho on July 31, 2014, 11:22:24 AM
I couldn't sit through the season 2 premiere for longer than 15 minutes... And I watch Falling Skies! Which is just about as enjoyable as watching bodies burn.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on August 03, 2014, 11:51:54 PM
Under the Dome Episode 2!!

I forgot to mention another new character. A girl who rose out of the lake...she has no memories.
Also, the waitress/candy striper/love of Jr. was killed at the end of the last episode.

This episode: Big bad mayor continues to be nice...he now believes the dome is testing him.
Science teacher discovers that butterflies are going to destroy the town's crops.
Burning and crop dusting ensue.

Everyone suspects the new lake-girl killed the waitress. Until science proves otherwise.
Jr realizes at the end that he probably was drunk and killed the girl he "loved" obsessively with an axe.

Big bad mayor rises in cultish following.
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Post by: nacho on August 04, 2014, 10:38:39 AM
The only question that matters, Reggie: Is the redhead still super hot?
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on August 04, 2014, 01:28:53 PM
The only question that matters, Reggie: Is the redhead still super hot?

Yes, even with the gunshot wound to her chest that is healing.
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Post by: nacho on August 04, 2014, 01:37:07 PM
The only question that matters, Reggie: Is the redhead still super hot?

Yes, even with the gunshot wound to her chest that is healing.

A couple ibuprofen is all she needed, I'm sure.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on August 04, 2014, 02:14:59 PM
I'll give them a little credit. She got the wound in the finale last year and has kept it for the first two episodes.
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Post by: nacho on August 05, 2014, 03:21:42 PM
I can't keep track of what's coming out or when, so here's a post collecting my "watchlist" shows.

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Danger 5: October!

Doctor Who: August 23rd!

Utopia (US): TBA (rumored to be closely linked to GoT's next season -- April 2015)

Ascension: November 14th

TWD: October 12th

The Expanse: 2015

The Last Man on Earth: 2015



Updated!

(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/danger5.jpg)

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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 05, 2014, 04:39:24 PM
Yes.
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Post by: nacho on August 05, 2014, 04:44:47 PM
Yes.

Shut up, Claire!
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Post by: nacho on August 05, 2014, 04:58:45 PM
In honor of the Danger 5 announcement! The season one SBS TV Spots!


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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 05, 2014, 07:37:35 PM
Yes.

Shut up, Claire!

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Post by: nacho on August 06, 2014, 10:38:32 AM
Season 8 of Big Bang Theory should be coming up soon. I have a small wishlist for this show...

Raj becomes a disgruntled alcoholic, Penny begins to pile on weight and Leonard no longer finds her physically attractive; Sheldon carries on as ever, oblivious, until he is arrested for serial murder in the last episode, and Howard gets charged for peeping into girls' locker rooms.

Holy god... So, in the news today, for season 8, each of the main stars (Howard, Raj, Sheldon, Penny, and Leonard) are earning one million PER EPISODE! Which means that, in payment to the talent alone, an episode of Big Bang Theory is as expensive as an episode of Game of Thrones.

There are 24 episodes in season 8, and the show has been renewed through 2016.

Insane.

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Post by: nacho on August 06, 2014, 10:41:59 AM
Halle Berry's Extant has many, many problems...

So we're about 50 years in the future, and she's on a very posh 13 month solo space mission doing botany things or something and gets to live on a big space station. She's visited by Starman (alien in the guise of her dead lover. Seen it. Taped it.) but, on the station's camera's, she's all alone. She deletes all that crazy shit and tra-la-la.

When she returns to Earth she's pregnant. This gets out, and now she has to try and explain what happened...starting with why the cameras got deleted.

Meanwhile, her current husband has created Small Wonder -- a perfectly sentient android boy -- and is using that prototype to get funding from Weyland-Yutani EvilCorp. Evilcorp, of course, asks practical questions, like how do you stop an army of androids from killing us, and our scientist plays the persecuted genius who just wants to create children for childless couples, and Evilcorp is written as bible thumping idiots while his idiotic view of what is, yes, the start of the robot apocalypse is written as what we're supposed to identify with. He might as well be standing next to a fucking Cylon, but we're to sympathize with the character? 

There's a Deep Mystery about all this, and the title plays on the word "extinct" before morphing to "extant" so, yeah, it's either angels trying to save us or aliens trying to save themselves. Yawn. And the Starchild in Berry's belly will be the key to whatever.

I'm not even bothering with the second episode. Mainly because Berry's best friend is played by the gal who plays Control in PoI so, every time I see her, I scream, "Shoot her, Shaw!!!"

And...cancelled. Though it'll get to finish its run. The finale is being bumped for a TBA Survivor/Big Brother retrospective special. Ouch.
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Post by: Sirharles on August 06, 2014, 10:50:23 AM
[quote author=nacho link=topic=4138.msg162536#msg162536 date=1407332312

Holy god... So, in the news today, for season 8, each of the main stars (Howard, Raj, Sheldon, Penny, and Leonard) are earning one million PER EPISODE! Which means that, in payment to the talent alone, an episode of Big Bang Theory is as expensive as an episode of Game of Thrones.

There are 24 episodes in season 8, and the show has been renewed through 2016.

Insane.
[/quote]

Only the Sheldon, Penny and Leonard are getting the million per half hour.  While Howard and Raj got pay raises it wasn't to a million per.  And while insane they aren't the highest paid people on TV.  Can you guess the winner?
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Post by: nacho on August 06, 2014, 11:08:09 AM
Is it Judge Judy? Because she was bragging about that one time on Good Morning America...
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Post by: Sirharles on August 06, 2014, 11:16:39 AM
Is it Judge Judy? Because she was bragging about that one time on Good Morning America...

Yep...$47 million....a year.

Jon Stewart comes in second at around $20 million.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on August 06, 2014, 11:25:21 AM
Is it Judge Judy? Because she was bragging about that one time on Good Morning America...

Yep...$47 million....a year.

Jon Stewart comes in second at around $20 million.

Now let's put that in perspective!  Judge Judy. $47 million per season. Okay. But...there are 260 episodes per season of Judge Judy, so that boils down to -- what? 180k or so per episode, which is about what the supporting cast of Big Bang Theory gets per episode.

Jon Steward does 161 episodes per season, which boils down to $120k per episode.
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Post by: Sirharles on August 06, 2014, 11:46:33 AM
But it doesn't take Judge Judy or Jon Stewart a week to do one episode.  And his numbers are closer to $25-$30 million upon closer research.  At $25 mil he makes $155K a day for 161 days.  My assumption is Judge Judy can crank out 3 or 4 episodes a day.  I'm not even gonna try to figure that one out since it's a big unknown.  BBT people make $24 million a year using 120 working days.  Assuming a 5 day work week, that's $200k a day.  Still a bit more than Stewart but not as large of a difference as you might think.  And that's at Stewart making $25 mil, the gap shrinks if he's closer to the $30 mil mark.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on August 06, 2014, 12:12:00 PM
But it doesn't take Judge Judy or Jon Stewart a week to do one episode.  And his numbers are closer to $25-$30 million upon closer research.  At $25 mil he makes $155K a day for 161 days.  My assumption is Judge Judy can crank out 3 or 4 episodes a day.  I'm not even gonna try to figure that one out since it's a big unknown.  BBT people make $24 million a year using 120 working days.  Assuming a 5 day work week, that's $200k a day.  Still a bit more than Stewart but not as large of a difference as you might think.  And that's at Stewart making $25 mil, the gap shrinks if he's closer to the $30 mil mark.

It's fascinating, actually!

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Three days every other week (two weeks a month), Sheindlin and her producers tape the court show.[28] They usually produce ten to twelve cases for each day they tape the show. This makes for about a week's worth of episodes, all taped within one day. Anywhere from thirty to thirty-six cases are filmed over the three days they tape per week. Sheindlin appeared as a guest on Jimmy Kimmel Live! on September 13, 2011. When asked by Kimmel how many days a month she works, Sheindlin replied, "Five days."[48] Sheindlin and her producers sometimes tape only five cases per day and two days per week.[14][49] The show has fifty-two taping days a year.[50] For each season, some 650 claims are brought to the set to be "presided" over by Judge Judy.[14] This means approximately 8,450 claims have been brought to Judith Sheindlin's Hollywood set as of the end of its thirteenth season (2008–09).

So now we need higher math, right?

Judge Judy:

Earns $47 million per year
Makes 260 episodes
Per episode = $180k
Time spent making a year's worth of episodes: 52 days

Big Bang Theory:

Top cast members earn $24 million per year
Makes 24 episodes
Per episode = $1 million
Time spent making a year's worth of episodes: 168 days, approximately, assuming a week per episode

So obviously Judy comes out on top. But, then, it's almost a completely different job. She doesn't have to act or learn a detailed script. The "talent" on her show are the cases she's presiding over.

I don't think you can compare shows of that ilk with scripted comedies. In that world, the highest paid were Charlie Sheen ($2 million), Tim Allen (1.5 million for the last season of Home Improvement only), and Ray Ramono (1.5 million). IS Ramono still in a series? If so, he's the top...with the BBT cast as the only current million-per-episode stars out there. They were preceded only by the cast of Friends and Mad About You. 


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Post by: Sirharles on August 06, 2014, 12:40:27 PM

 They were preceded only by the cast of Friends and Mad About You.

Don't forget about the biggest payday of all.  Seinfeld.  According to Forbes magazine, Seinfeld's annual earning from Seinfeld in 2004 was US$267 million, placing him at the top of the celebrity "money rank" that year.[63] He reportedly turned down US$5 million per episode, for 22 episodes, to continue the show for a tenth season.[64]

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on August 06, 2014, 12:46:41 PM
Seinfeld earned a million per episode while the show was on and, wisely, opted for backend deals. His earnings are from syndication and royalties. (A factor of the BBT's contracts, by the way, that has not been made public...)
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Post by: nacho on August 08, 2014, 12:15:18 PM
The Dominion finale is where I realize that American TV has changed...mainly because a SyFy show airing during primetime is now allowed to show tits.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 08, 2014, 03:21:01 PM
Say what?
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Post by: nacho on August 08, 2014, 06:08:25 PM
Say what?

You heard me bitch! Nipples on SyFy.  Three of them. Two long female ass shots with hint of meat curtains.10pm Thursday night. Amen.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Reginald McGraw on August 08, 2014, 06:26:37 PM
Under the Dome Episodes 3 & 4

Looks like Jr. was not the killer of his love after all, in a big reveal at the end we find that Jr.'s uncle was the one who did the deed.
Also, the lake girl was killed in 1982 and buried after Jr.'s uncle, the crazy barber, and Jr's mom (and lake girl) all went and got the dome egg out of a meteorite (in 1982).

Unknown why the uncle, crazy barber have not talked about this.

The kids + Jr. get some email on a Microsoft Surface Tablet, but then the connection goes down. Jr. is able to watch a video of his mother who everyone believes is dead. She tells him to talk to the crazy barber.

Meanwhile...

The new teacher character convinces big bad mayor that he needs to kill 1/4 of the townspeople because then they will not run out of resources. Otherwise they will run out in a week. She crafts a biological weapon out of swine flu and regular human flu.

Fortunately red-head and Barbie stop her from dropping it in the Holy Water at church because the swine flu was much worse than they thought (more pigs kept dying!)

Lots of people get angry on this show and act irrationally.
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Post by: nacho on August 09, 2014, 03:47:14 AM
Oh my god... It sounds worse than I thought it could be! Has it been renewed through 2020 yet like other mysteriously immortal unwatchable shows?
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on August 09, 2014, 10:57:28 AM
I hope not! Then I will have to keep doing this out of blind obligation!!

Episode 5

Seriously, these actors are bad...or the director is just telling them "Act angry! You have some reason to be angry so let that inform all your acting and make you scowl. Except when you're kissing; which is the only cure for anger!"

So we find out that Jr's dead (but not dead) mother has created a set of prophetic pictures and Jr. goes searching for them. There is a page missing from her journal that is of special interest. Crazy barber has disappeared with the rest of the journal. Turns out that his uncle (who killed Jr's love, secretly) has the page so Jr. goes and with much anger ransacks uncle's place looking for it. Uncle comes and checks to see if the page is still in his hiding spot. It is! Then he takes Jr. to the barber shop where he plants the page and "finds" it. Turns out it's a picture of Jr.'s dead love and a picture of 4 hands touching an egg.

So after uncle gets Jr. drunk to kill him with a pillow and decides not to. He and Jr. find another message from not dead mother/sister hidden in a painting. Jr. a high school locker with a number. The locker number is the same as the place where Jr.'s uncle killed Jr.'s crush. Sidenote: the lake girl had this locker in 1988 and knows the combination. It was the source of the wifi connection when they were getting emails. She opened it, but it was empty.

Jr. and his murdering uncle go there, and pry it open. Now the back and bottom of the locker have been removed and it is a tunnel leading down...

Meanwhile, red head & Barbie decide to put big bad mayor and science teacher on trial in front of the town. Also, she decides to do a food share! Everyone bring extra food to the fire house. Things go bad at the trial and the DJ turned deputy shoots someone dead. Red head makes him resign. He sneaks into jail to talk to big bad mayor and back out to foment unrest. Somehow there is a bomb/explosion at the food drop off that makes everyone think the food is burned. However it's just in a fireproof back room that only the DJ deputy has the key to. He ends up getting shot and killed in an awkward reveal/battle scene by Barbie.

Also, there is a horder who has enough food to feed the town for a month. So they have a townwide feast to eat most of it all at once!
Red head and big bad mayor publicly reconcile and everyone is happy.

Red head and Barbie kiss. That lucky devil.
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Post by: nacho on August 09, 2014, 12:02:42 PM
I'm loving these updates... I hope it is renewed through 2020! By episode 100 you'll be posting in all caps entirely in gibberish.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on August 09, 2014, 03:52:06 PM
I love how every recurring character is like "F this! Write me out immediately!" --- another episode, another death.
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Post by: nacho on August 13, 2014, 08:13:35 AM
Probably should just retitle this thread "Abrams-verse." Westworld is fun. Ed Harris is a good pick. This is okay.


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When we first heard J.J. Abrams was rebooting Westworld at HBO, we couldn’t help but worry it might slip into development hell due to the sheer ambition of it all. But the series is flying right along — and here’s who’ll be menacing our heroes.

The Hollywood Reporter notes that veteran actor Ed Harris (The Hours, The Truman Show, Apollo 13) has signed on to star in a “pivotal” role as the Man in Black, a character described as the “distillation of pure villainy into one man.”

It sounds like Abrams’ adaptation will make some changes from the original film, but the series is still expected to serve as a “dark odyssey about the dawn of artificial consciousness and the future of sin.” Yeah, count us in for that.

Harris joins a cast that is already studded with other stars, including Anthony Hopkins, Evan Rachel Wood, Jeffrey Wright, Rodrigo Santoro, Shannon Woodward, James Marsden, Kyle Bornheimer and several others. Seriously, if Abrams can’t make an awesome Westworld adaptation with this lot, he needs to just get out of the business.

Michael Crichton’s original, 1973 film has become a true genre classic, and we can’t wait to revisit this universe again. Abrams will executive-produce the project with Jerry Weintraub and Bryan Burk. Jonathan Nolan (Person of Interest, The Dark Knight) co-wrote the pilot and is set to direct.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Reginald McGraw on August 25, 2014, 10:16:43 PM
Episode 6

Jr., science teacher, Barbie and Jr.'s uncle go down to explore the tunnel under the locker. It opens into a huge cavern. Then there is an explosion and Jr. and the science teacher are separated from his uncle and Barbie. Jr. and science teacher go back out the locker and the other two continue on. They find crazy barber's belongings on the edge of a cliff after some wandering and mysterious tunnel passageways (How did you get behind me? I went left, you went right!?!?).  Uncle confesses to wanting to kill the "4 hands" that hold up the dome (Jr., 2 angsty teens and the dead girl). One of the prophetic pictures from Jr.'s dead/not dead mom seems to indicate in a vague way that killing all "4 hands" will bring the dome down. He tells Barbie all this because he wants Barbie to kill them. And then he gets written out of the show at his request by jumping off the giant unknowably deep cliff.

Meanwhile, outside the locker, there is a dust storm that may clog the air holes in the dome and make them all suffocate. Red head is off worrying about Sheriff Barbie, so big bad former mayor convinces the people to erect a windmill that science teacher (who is turning into the professor from Gilligan's island) has been working on. They spray water through the windmill blades which removes the dust from the air in about 20 seconds. Big bad loves power!!

Red head and science teacher make explosives and blow up the blockage in the locker cave. Barbie is safe.

The 3 still living hands decide that the dead-but-now-alive lake girl is the replacement 4th hand! Also, red head told lake girl that she threw the dome egg into the lake. The new 4 hands go out on the lake and wonder twin powers activate. The egg floats to the surface. They take it.

Then they all go to a house and touch the egg more. They have a shared vision of an obelisk. This obelisk is from lake girl's home town...which is also Barbie's home town...it's also in one of the prophetic paintings.

Watching another tonight!!
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on August 29, 2014, 04:07:33 PM
Episodes 7, 8 & 9

Surprise, Jr's Uncle, Barbie and Crazy Barber all turn up in the town of Zenith via the unending pit in the cave under the locker!!
New characters: Barbie's Dad (head of an evil energy company), Jr's Mom lives here and becomes a regular character, Generic Computer Hacker guy who works for Barbie's dad but also some kind of dome info society that Jr's Mom is involved in.

Nothing much happens in Dome land other than some emails get through controlled by Hacker and/or Barbie's dad. Big Bad Mayor decides he will be sheriff...and tries to angle for more power all the time.

Outside the dome, the energy company has found out something about the egg. They want it.
Also, Everyone from inside the dome meets up. They use Jr's mom's last psychic painting to find a path back into the dome. They all take it + Hacker dude. All appear in the lake, but crazy barber is nowhere to be found.

Big Bad Mayor finds out Barbie is alive when he observes the military carting him away after he makes soundless contact at the dome with Redhead. BBM decides to try to make a deal to release everyone in the town with the military outside (actually private contractors controlled by the energy company, military agreed to cede control after the missile strike on the dome failed last season). He will get the egg and turn it over. Security says no. He renegotiates for just the freedom of he and his son they say yes and then show him a map of the town with the egg location blinking. Don't worry, the 4 hands get the egg away before he gets there.

I'm trying to think how they could use the two passages to make unlimited money, but haven't figured it out yet.

 
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Post by: nacho on August 29, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
Intervention tomorrow!
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 29, 2014, 10:55:37 PM
Intervention tomorrow!

Seconded.
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Post by: nacho on September 07, 2014, 01:45:18 PM
40 years ago today!


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Post by: nacho on September 07, 2014, 11:13:57 PM
Utopia... The new reality show that, Fox hopes, will reboot the genre.

14 people get a fertile five acres, a few exciting simple buildings, two cows, chickens, a box of two or three must have items, $5000 to purchase supplies, a water tower, a lake, and one year to create a functioning society that can support itself and earn money. One person leaves each week and, unlike normal reality shows, a new character comes in.

The initial challenge is to get the basic shit running on their farm -- power, water, etc. The resources are there and ready, they just have to handle the wiring, plumbing, etc...

The game isn't focused on elimination, it's focused on the successful community aspect. Which is interesting...

It's got me hooked because everyone is at each other's throats in the first 10 minutes. In fact, they've been live-streaming the filming of it... The first couple hours of the three part pilot features fights, nudity, an unscheduled expulsion, a medical emergency and evacuation, and a vaguely psychotic splinter group.

I wonder if the lack of "teamwork" that an elimination challenge calls for is going to show us the true nature of humanity?




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Post by: nacho on September 10, 2014, 08:13:53 AM
Utopia... The new reality show that, Fox hopes, will reboot the genre.

14 people get a fertile five acres, a few exciting simple buildings, two cows, chickens, a box of two or three must have items, $5000 to purchase supplies, a water tower, a lake, and one year to create a functioning society that can support itself and earn money. One person leaves each week and, unlike normal reality shows, a new character comes in.

The initial challenge is to get the basic shit running on their farm -- power, water, etc. The resources are there and ready, they just have to handle the wiring, plumbing, etc...

The game isn't focused on elimination, it's focused on the successful community aspect. Which is interesting...

It's got me hooked because everyone is at each other's throats in the first 10 minutes. In fact, they've been live-streaming the filming of it... The first couple hours of the three part pilot features fights, nudity, an unscheduled expulsion, a medical emergency and evacuation, and a vaguely psychotic splinter group.

I wonder if the lack of "teamwork" that an elimination challenge calls for is going to show us the true nature of humanity?

Episode three is just annoying. The leaderless quality of the group is frustrating -- is this really how a group of people who have to survive on their own would behave? I worry the answer is yes...everyone either sits around and does nothing but complain, or they go off on individual projects that will never see the light of day and are a huge waste of energy. All with less than a thousand calories a day to drive them. You'd think food would be priority... But then the splinter group buys $150 worth of perishables! They have a $5000 limit, and episode three sees them spending about $500 of that overall, with a quarter of that food that'll go bad in a day.

No progress has been made on anything, and there's discussion of killing the livestock and eating it.

This is like that third season of Survivor where they dump the people in the desert and the FIRST THING that they do is dump out ALL of their water to lighten their load. Which made me stop watching that show... I refuse to believe people are this bad.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on September 10, 2014, 04:34:36 PM
How did they pick these people?

I think in modern society maybe .05% of people might be able to pull off what they're attempting.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on September 10, 2014, 06:27:19 PM
UTD: Episodes 10, 11

It gets really cold inside the dome.
Then it starts rotating (literally moving in a circle with above ground parts going below ground and vice versa; almost like a clown was balanced atop the sphere walking in place atop the dome).
Then it stops rotating.
Then things warm up.
Then it starts contracting...cliff hanger.

Other things happen too:
Crazy barber finally appears during the cold part in the lake. He gets rescued by big bad sheriff.
Big bad sheriff forces 2 of the "Four Hands" to drop the egg over the cliff in the locker cave. The egg appears in the town of Zenith at a playground and men come with scientific instruments but get zapped when they try to pick it up.
This also causes an earthquake inside the dome.
The earthquake allows former DJ/former sheriff/shooting victim/current inmate to escape. He makes for the locker cave and jumps over the cliff to freedom!!
Except the cliff is now not a passageway out of the dome, but rather a normal cliff with spike-rocks at the bottom. He really does die this time.

Barbie and Red-head drive an ambulance into the frigid weather. They crash. She dies of hypothermia, but recovers thanks to some shoddy CPR and a warming oven...which I kind of lost focus on how they arrived at the industrial kitchen with this oven...

Jr. beats up his uncle, but doesn't kill him because of a vision of his dead love that his uncle killed telling him not to. Then they all agree to work together again.

Generic Computer Hacker guy turns out to be communicating with the black uniformed security outside the dome.

The undead lake girl responds poorly to people messing with the egg and has almost died several times because of people touching it or trying to touch it.

Only 2 more shows this year.
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Post by: monkey! on September 13, 2014, 01:49:52 PM
Wait... season 2 was banned?
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on September 23, 2014, 01:43:10 PM
UTD Epsiode 12

Barbie gets his dad to come to the dome and talk. In one of the most awkward scenes involving two people talking (and you hear both of their voices) with two other people typing on a computer or writing on paper (different things than what the two people who are talking are saying...btw), Barbie gets his dad to agree to get the egg and throw/bring it back through the still open entryway into the dome that is in Barbie's dad's root cellar. Barbie's dad goes and is able to pick up the egg from the playground but then is faced down by men with guns.

Jr's mom has another painting vision which has the new "4 hands" and the old "4 hands" joining forces to heal the lake girl (who is still sick because the egg is mistreated). All these people go to the center of the domeland where the egg was discovered. They lay hands on her. Lake girl glows, sits up healed, and then a huge cylindrical pit opens under her and she's sucked into it.

I think the dome is still shrinking too.

Probably watching the season finale tonight...
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Post by: nacho on September 25, 2014, 12:07:02 PM
I stopped watching NCIS years ago, and never watched NCIS: LA... But I had to give NCIS: New Orleans a try because...New Orleans! And Scott Bakula.

It was...astoundingly bad. The in-your-face "We're in New Orleans!!!!!!!" stuff dominated the whole pilot... I don't even remember what the crime was because they're so busy making gumbo at the NCIS office's full restaurant kitchen, which is located in the French Quarter (which is, in the show, apparently located next to the port), and Bakula is playing jazz, and we're surrounded by Abita signs, and it's always Mardi Gras or something...


Worst of all are the accents. For the first half of the show, I figured Bakula was doing an Iowa accent... But then I realized that he's trying to do a Cajun accent, and it goes in and out during dialogue. Bizarre... He'll be talking normally, then he'll drift into a twang. After the premiere, he even apologized for this and said, "they haven't decided what my character will sound like yet." WHAT???

A hilarious review:


http://lightlybuzzed.com/2014/09/24/ncis-new-orleans-review-decent-show-drowned-gumbo/

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Post by: RottingCorpse on September 25, 2014, 12:19:24 PM
So what you're saying is it's the comedy hit of the fall?
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Post by: nacho on September 25, 2014, 12:44:39 PM
So what you're saying is it's the comedy hit of the fall?

That would be Z Nation. As you are a Sharknado fan, I can't believe you aren't watching that show. It's basically Sharknado Zombies meet the Cliche Factory. 
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Post by: nacho on September 27, 2014, 08:38:46 PM
Forever... Basically what New Amsterdam should have been. The first two episodes are okay.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on September 30, 2014, 04:23:54 PM
UTD Epsiode 13

I forgot to mention that crazy barber was stabbed to death in the last episode, but not before he stabbed Jr's mom.

In this episode the entire town goes down into the pit.
They come to a dead end.
A butterfly lands on a rock.
Barbie moves it.
A white lighted tunnel is visible behind and then the layer of rock covering it falls down.
The lake girl tells everyone to follow her.
The end.

I hope it's not renewed.
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Post by: nacho on October 01, 2014, 07:38:04 AM

I hope it's not renewed.

Sorry, sucker. It's getting a renewal. Redhead has been blabbering on about the course of "the next few seasons," and the network called this the "series 2 finale," which is a pretty strong tip-off that they're going to ride with it...
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 01, 2014, 08:51:43 AM
Yes, nothing official yet, but it does seem they are leaning toward renewal.

At least the producer has said the show will probably end after 3 seasons (or 5  :fajwat:).
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Post by: nacho on October 01, 2014, 07:03:57 PM
The show no one is talking about!

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Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 11, 2014, 09:34:05 AM
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CBS RENEWS HIT SERIES “UNDER THE DOME” AND “EXTANT”

Despite a significant ratings dip, the network has opted to renew the apocalyptic drama, as expected, with the show’s lucrative Amazon deal no doubt a factor in the decision.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Post by: nacho on October 14, 2014, 04:57:49 AM
But...nobody watched Extant!
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Post by: nacho on October 14, 2014, 01:07:08 PM
The show no one is talking about!


Wow... SyFy just killed it. It'll air over the course of three days starting December 15th and that's it.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on October 14, 2014, 02:51:21 PM
But...nobody watched Extant!

That's what I thought too. We watched one episode and were like..."ummm, no."
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Post by: nacho on October 14, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
And you're the only one watching UTD. Maybe all this is your fault.
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Post by: nacho on October 29, 2014, 10:36:15 AM
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In a telling article with Entertainment Weekly, Syfy proclaims the channel's new commitment to science fiction and the genre that originally made it great. But also in there is a quiet admission that when they dropped their core programming and turned from Sci-Fi into Syfy, they messed up.

It's certainly how EW sees it, and given that so many other channels have recently done shows so successfully that once would have practically been the Scifi Channel's exclusive domain — like the fantasy of HBO's Game of Thrones, or AMC's zombie drama The Walking Dead — the fact that Syfy feels it needs to announce its return to its own genre speaks volumes. After Battlestar Galactica ended, Syfy turned away from doing ambitious, high-end, "serious" shows in favor of lighter fare.

And now, Syfy says that perceptions of science fiction and other genre entertainment have changed, but it's important to note that other than the BSG reboot, which ended in 2009, Syfy didn't have much of a hand in that.

"We saw an explosion of sci-fi/fantasy content across every cable and broadcast network out there," said Syfy president Dave Howe. "Perceptions of the genre have shifted dramatically. What that speaks to is an opportunity to re-own the genre and be at the forefront of high-end buzzy, provocative storytelling — and the epiphany of that was Battlestar."
"Re-own" is clearly the operative word here. Anyways, the q&a with Syfy's new programming chief Bill McGoldrick is a fascinating read, and the article also details the five shows and miniseries Syfy hopes will lure fans back. We know about the 12 Monkeys show and Ascension, of course, but here's the details on the other three:

• Childhood's End. Mini-series, 6 hours. Stars Charles Dance. Based on Arthur C. Clarke's sci-fi classic, follows a breed of aliens called the "Overlords," who manage to peacefully invade and rule Earth, and create a pseudo-utopia that comes at the price of human identity and culture. Premieres 2015.

• The Expanse. Series, 10 episodes. Based on the series of books by James S.A. Corey, a thriller set two hundred years in the future, The Expanse follows the case of a missing young woman who brings a hardened detective and a rogue ship's captain together in a race across the solar system to expose the greatest conspiracy in human history. No date.

• Hunters. Series, 13 episodes. Based on Whitley Strieber's novel Alien Hunter, a Philadelphia cop searches for his missing wife leads and discovers a secret government unit that assembled to hunt a group of ruthless terrorists who may not be from this world. Premieres 2016.
Tywin Lannister in an Arthur C. Clarke adaptation? You have piqued my interest mightily, Syfy.
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Post by: nacho on October 29, 2014, 10:40:37 AM
Oh, and here's the latest trailer for the pre-doomed Ascension burn-off (speaking of SyFy making mistakes):

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Post by: nacho on November 03, 2014, 05:02:15 PM
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CBS RENEWS HIT SERIES “UNDER THE DOME” AND “EXTANT”

Despite a significant ratings dip, the network has opted to renew the apocalyptic drama, as expected, with the show’s lucrative Amazon deal no doubt a factor in the decision.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!



http://io9.com/is-hate-watching-bad-for-you-1654143313
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 03, 2014, 09:02:10 PM
Please don't bring this up until June. I'm trying to forget.
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Post by: nacho on November 06, 2014, 01:57:29 PM
Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_War

It's the German Band of Brothers... And it's totally awesome, and beautiful, and heart-rending.

It's not available everywhere. Get it in you:

http://www.musicboxfilms.com/generation-war-movies-80.php?showPressPage=true
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Post by: nacho on November 06, 2014, 02:37:14 PM
Oh, and ignore the US and Israeli reviewers who go on and on and on about them not showing the camps. Those idiots must, you know, not have watched the show at all, considering that, yes, while there are no camps, the Jewish question is poignantly (and sometimes shockingly) interwoven with the entire narrative. The murderous brutal treatment of the Jews by the guys on the front lines is more soul-shattering than lingering on recreations of death camp images. We get point blank executions of children! Is that not enough?
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Post by: monkey! on November 07, 2014, 08:13:48 AM
Also, most Germans were completely oblivious to the existence of the camps.
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Post by: nacho on November 12, 2014, 02:00:54 PM
I consider this good news...mainly because it's going to be a direct sequel to Army of Darkness:

Quote
Evil Dead is coming back in a big, big way, people. Original creators Sam Raimi and Rob Tapert are joining forces to bring the gruesome horror franchise to Starz. And yes, this does mean that Bruce Campbell will return as the one and only Ash Williams.

Variety is reporting that the Evil Dead series is a go at Starz. The official name of the 10-episode series is Ash Vs. Evil Dead.

So where will we find Ash? Turns out he's "the stock boy, aging lothario and chainsaw-handed monster hunter who has spent the last 30 years avoiding responsibility, maturity and the terrors of the Evil Dead." But there's no rest for the Deadites. A new undead evil is about to be unleashed, and Ash has to get his crap together to fight eit.

In an interview, the original film's director Raimi hinted at both the return of the chainsaw arm and the "boomstick." Good. No doubt this being on Starz, there will be plenty of pausing for undead sex. There was undead sex in the previous franchise, but thanks to Starz's lax TV guidelines and hungry-for-flesh audience, we suspect there will be a whole lot nudity and bright red blood for horror fans. Please just be good.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 17, 2014, 10:47:13 PM
Probably should just retitle this thread "Abrams-verse." Westworld is fun. Ed Harris is a good pick. This is okay.


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When we first heard J.J. Abrams was rebooting Westworld at HBO, we couldn’t help but worry it might slip into development hell due to the sheer ambition of it all. But the series is flying right along — and here’s who’ll be menacing our heroes.

The Hollywood Reporter notes that veteran actor Ed Harris (The Hours, The Truman Show, Apollo 13) has signed on to star in a “pivotal” role as the Man in Black, a character described as the “distillation of pure villainy into one man.”

It sounds like Abrams’ adaptation will make some changes from the original film, but the series is still expected to serve as a “dark odyssey about the dawn of artificial consciousness and the future of sin.” Yeah, count us in for that.

Harris joins a cast that is already studded with other stars, including Anthony Hopkins, Evan Rachel Wood, Jeffrey Wright, Rodrigo Santoro, Shannon Woodward, James Marsden, Kyle Bornheimer and several others. Seriously, if Abrams can’t make an awesome Westworld adaptation with this lot, he needs to just get out of the business.

Michael Crichton’s original, 1973 film has become a true genre classic, and we can’t wait to revisit this universe again. Abrams will executive-produce the project with Jerry Weintraub and Bryan Burk. Jonathan Nolan (Person of Interest, The Dark Knight) co-wrote the pilot and is set to direct.

Ordered to Series. Check out the cast.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/hbos-westworld-ordered-series-741066 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/hbos-westworld-ordered-series-741066)

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HBO's Star-Studded 'Westworld' Adaptation Ordered to Series
Due in 2015 and starring Anthony Hopkins in his first series-regular role

It's official: HBO is moving forward with its Westworld adaptation.

The drama, based on Michael Crichton's 1973 film and written by Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy, stars Anthony Hopkins in his first series-regular role as an inventor who runs an adult amusement park populated by lifelike robots. HBO made the announcement Monday via Twitter, with the series coming in 2015.

The drama hails from J.J. Abrams and Bryan Burk's Warner Bros. Television-based Bad Robot Productions, with the duo exec producing alongside Jerry Weintraub, Nolan (who directed the pilot) and Joy. Kathy Lingg will co-EP and Athena Wickham is a producer on the drama. Susie Ekins is set as a co-producer. Westworld hails from Bad Robot, Jerry Weintraub Productions and Kilter Films.

Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that the show's androids — played by castmembers including James Marsden, Evan Rachel Wood and Thandie Newton — can be killed off and return with completely different personas, allowing actors to play many characters. That creative device, one top talent agent said, helped HBO attract a premier cast (which also includes Ed Harris, Miranda Otto and Jeffrey Wright). And unlike the actors on such anthology series as FX's American Horror Story and HBO's own True Detective, which reboot themselves every season, the cast of Westworld is signing multiyear deals.

"This is built as a series and, in terms of storytelling, I think the rules are definitely being broken," HBO programming president Michael Lombardo told THRin August of the sci-fi Western from executive producers J.J. Abrams, Jerry Weintraub and Bryan Burk. "The promise of the show, in terms of where it's going, is exciting to actors, and they want to be a part of this."

Westworld becomes HBO's second drama from Warner Bros. Television, joining Damon Lindelof's adaptation ofThe Leftovers (which has already been renewed). The cabler recently passed over Ryan Murphy's sexuality drama pilot Open, from 20th Century Fox Television.

Westworld is HBO's first project with Bad Robot, which also produces CBS' Person of Interest and Hulu's upcoming event series 11/22/63.  The banner recently saw the demise of Revolution, Almost Human and Believe. Abrams' credits include Fringe, Alcatraz and Lost. He's currently prepping Star Wars: Episode VII as well as the next installments in the Mission: Impossible and Star Trek franchises. Abrams' Bad Robot is also prepping a miniseries based on Rod Serling's (The Twilight Zone) final and unproduced screenplay, The Stops Along the Way. A network is not yet attached.

For HBO, Westworld comes as the network recently said farewell to True Blood, and is wrapping the final seasons of Emmy darling Boardwalk Empire and Aaron Sorkin's The Newsroom. Westworld joins an HBO drama roster that also includes Game of Thrones, The Leftovers, True Detective and Utopia.
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Post by: nacho on November 18, 2014, 10:18:37 AM
Good! I still have no problem with this. Especially since, to make a series, they have no choice but to tap all of the intrigue and paranoia shit from the larger Westworld universe.

(Everyone knows that there was already a TV show, yes? And that Abrams will be mining that, which was closer in spirit to Futureworld than Westworld.)

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Post by: nacho on November 19, 2014, 12:13:42 PM
I love the people on various geek news sites screaming about Jurassic Park ripped off Westworld.

Psst -- they're created and written by the same guy, so-called "geek" sites.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 19, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
Which begs the question, "Is history dead?" because nobody remembers anything that happened before five seconds ago.
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Post by: nacho on November 19, 2014, 03:18:34 PM
Which begs the question, "Is history dead?" because nobody remembers anything that happened before five seconds ago.

I remember for you.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 19, 2014, 08:19:17 PM
Yes, but who remembers for everyone else?
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Post by: nacho on November 20, 2014, 08:17:03 AM
That's me, too. I should turn the front page of GS into "today in history," but thug notes it.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 20, 2014, 10:29:31 AM
You should!
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Post by: nacho on November 20, 2014, 10:53:11 AM
For example, as I read my current "what you're reading" hardcore history book, I coincidentally was on the page discussing Edward I's coronation -- on this day in 1272. He's Longshanks, played with delicious villainy by McGoohan in Braveheart. From him, you fall down the rabbithole of the Arthurian legend -- he was cripplingly obsessed with Arthur, and even renamed tournaments to "round tables." But, like Constantine and Christianity, Edward I basically made up the whole myth. There was an Author legend as early as the late 900s, but in that version -- and the version immortalized in print in the 1100's -- Arthur was purely a Welshman fighting everyone who was not Welsh and improbably conquering as far as Greece, creating a gigantic post-Roman Empire that flourished briefly until he was betrayed.

So Edward I (who was soon to fucking annihilate the Welsh with extreme prejudice) decided to change things up. Suddenly Arthur becomes English. He's given a new past -- that of a Romanized (i.e. civilized) Briton fighting the savages (i.e. Saxons, Celts, Gauls, etc, i.e., the Welsh and similar political rivals the HRE/Germans and the French, who had recently devoured most of the Norman-English holdings on the continent).

So now Author the "king of the Britons" needs to not be from Wales. Edward burns down Glastonbury Abbey and pays the surviving monks to say that, in cleaning up the ruins, they found the tomb of Arthur and Guinevere and, lo and behold, the actual true definitive history. The legend became reality. Edward became the new Arthur.

Fascinating guy. But way lost to history, yes? Yet this footnote of an olden times king has shaped our pop culture for the last 800 years. The King Arthur in your mind right now has barely changed from the legend he created, purely for the purpose of subduing Wales and turning an otherwise foreign, conquering dynasty into "English" kings.   
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 20, 2014, 01:35:35 PM
I still think you'd make an amazing history professor.
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Post by: nacho on November 20, 2014, 01:47:47 PM
History is super fun, totally balls-out insane at every turn, and is all about man's inhumanity to man and how everything we think and believe was actually dictated by a handful of madmen. How can you not love it or be interested in it?
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 20, 2014, 01:52:53 PM
You're preaching to the choir, man.

I think part of the problem for the layman is the rabbit hole. You read about one thing, and it leads to another and another, and another. While I love that aspect of it, these days people want to be entertained more than informed by history. It has to be distilled down to it's essence.

On on level, I used o think our social ills sprung from outré inability to learn from our past history, but as I get older I realize more and more the "Gifford Theory" of history is true: that since the dawn of civilization, power has basinal been consolidated by the same group of people; the faces, races, weapons, and borders change, but the power structure and how it's maintained doesn't.
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Post by: nacho on November 20, 2014, 02:21:27 PM
but as I get older I realize more and more the "Gifford Theory" of history is true: that since the dawn of civilization, power has basinal been consolidated by the same group of people; the faces, races, weapons, and borders change, but the power structure and how it's maintained doesn't.

That's simply human nature. We are -- at the very base level, completely beyond any realistic control -- social animals. We will always need and seek to establish a government no matter the shape or beliefs of our civilization. A government, arguably by definition, is autocratic. It always -- no matter what form it takes -- exists solely to issue and execute laws, maintain whatever the perceived stability and integrity of the society is, and defend the strict definition of the cooperative structure (real or imaginary) that formed it.

There's really only one way to do all that, whether you call yourself a Khan or a Senator.

You can put lipstick on the pig by electing people from the hoi polloi to positions in local and national offices and cause some fun and distracting dynamics, but that doesn't really change anything (unless the people's interests and the oligarchy's interests are at odds...but then you're already in deep water if that's happening).

On that last point, our modern needs are insanely simple. We no longer care about the size of the king's forest or grazing rights or burgher taxes or corrupt sheriffs, we just want to get our checks and watch House Hunters and keep the high-speed 3D porn flowing. Nice and easy...and also why we've edged towards such extreme corporate control. We are the "just send checks" society, even if we put on airs and say we're not. We can be vegan recyclers who are responsible for the world all we want, but we'll still top out at 50 slaves or more on slaveryfootprint.com! Governing that society is sooooo easy.   
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 20, 2014, 02:31:52 PM
Front page that noise!
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Post by: Tatertots on November 20, 2014, 04:17:36 PM
Before it gets all Dan Carlin up in here: http://www.cc.com/video-clips/usjl5q/key-and-peele-aerobics-meltdown---uncensored
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Post by: nacho on November 20, 2014, 06:53:17 PM
I love Key and Peele so much...
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Post by: nacho on December 09, 2014, 11:29:24 AM
So...wait... Is it really a surprise that Aaron Sorkin's an asshole? We've known that for about 20 years, I think.

The Newsroom is awful. It's a show for smug fucks. I gave up on the final season, but went back to watch this one. And, yes, Jesus... Pro-rape Sorkin!

http://www.avclub.com/article/aaron-sorkin-sad-newsroom-writers-objection-rape-p-212752
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Post by: nacho on December 09, 2014, 06:45:25 PM
The Librarian movie series on TNT is awful...but it's also a guilty pleasure.

The TV show... Now, that's a different ball of wax. Just two episodes in (the two hour pilot) but, basically, it's American Doctor Who -- complete with TARDIS (the Library) and gadgets.

Noah Wyle is very obviously channeling elements of NuWho (most noticeably the Tenth Doctor), and well, it's pretty awesome.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on December 09, 2014, 10:08:52 PM
I felt the ad campaign for The Librarians was weak. It looks like it should be funny, but the producers are trying hard to make sure it's not funny.
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Post by: nacho on December 10, 2014, 07:22:25 AM
I felt the ad campaign for The Librarians was weak. It looks like it should be funny, but the producers are trying hard to make sure it's not funny.

I just learned that Noah Wyle was only in it to transition the new team to series. Boo.

So now it's less a Doctor Who clone and more a Warehouse 13 clone. Sad.

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Post by: nacho on December 12, 2014, 09:44:52 AM
I think the most epic trailer of the year has to go to season 5 of Workaholics:

http://workaholics2015.com/
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Post by: nacho on December 17, 2014, 03:21:45 PM
Oh, and here's the latest trailer for the pre-doomed Ascension burn-off (speaking of SyFy making mistakes):


And...it's a mega-hit. It'll probably get a series, and is already being compared to BSG.

I watched the first episode. It's not stellar... It's not as amazing as the BSG mini-series was...but, it is interesting. The twist (which you can see a mile away) is satisfying, and doesn't pull any punches. The twist comes at the end of the first episode and you're off and running at that point.

The question is whether or not the twist coming so soon blows the show's wad. But probably not, because now we have an awesome dynamic.

I'm glad for a generation ship-based series. It's something that many have tried to do and, until now, no one has succeeded in pulling off.
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Post by: nacho on December 19, 2014, 08:32:04 AM
The last hour of Ascension was pretty epic... So, if it gets a series order, it is now not about people in a generation ship (or even people who believe that), it's SyFy's answer to Person of Interest and The Prisoner as inspired by MK Ultra and Firestarter.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on December 23, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
HBO's end of the year montage thingy has three seconds of footage from next year's Westworld show.

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Post by: RottingCorpse on January 16, 2015, 03:57:08 PM
Thunderbirds are GO! ...Again.


And AICN has pics:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/70039 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/70039)
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on January 28, 2015, 09:48:39 PM
I liked that.
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Post by: nacho on January 29, 2015, 10:39:28 AM
I like how Sons of Liberty gets pretty much everything wrong, and then ends with this weird, rushed cocktease. Bunker Hill -- okay, that's kind of fun. It's all over very quickly, but whatever. So then, while Washington marches to save New York, in what's clearly the space of just a couple days, the Continental Congress is not only swayed to vote for Independence, but the Declaration is written, signed, sent to England, mass produced, and read to every American.

So, of course, the Battle of Long Island was almost two months later, so that makes sense...but they are so liberal with the timelines it's almost impossible to follow the narrative. It's also weird to end on that note -- the charge against the British from Brooklyn Heights -- because that was a major defeat for Washington. So it looks cool to freeze-frame the heroic charge but...well...that's the end? Our darkest hour?

Also weird how Sam Adams is the pivotal hero of every step of the revolution. We only get one brief scene with Jefferson where Franklin says "Welcome" and shakes his hand.   
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Post by: nacho on February 04, 2015, 11:20:14 AM
So Doctor Who turned 50, and Star Trek is coming up, and this year we had the 50th for Lost in Space! It's a great time to be a TV fan.

In 2016 The Green Hornet turns 50! I only mention that because I had the theme song stuck in my head this morning:

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Post by: nacho on February 09, 2015, 03:54:54 PM
So in the early AM last night FXX aired a 30 minute show called "Winter Dragon," which was based on the prologue of the first book of The Wheel of Time. They did this without explanation but, those who watched it, had mixed reviews.

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Start of Something More or Greedy Play to Keep the Rights

There is a lot of doubt as to what this was exactly. Many see this as just a way for a company to keep the rights to the franchise by just creating a throw away cheap product no one will see. In 2008 Universal Pictures acquired the rights to produce a Wheel of Time based film series with Red Eagle Entertainment to produce it. The episode is listed as a film at the end so this could possible be their long promised "film".

On the other hand it has been pointed out that pilots sometimes air on obscure channels at obscure times and certain people are informed ahead of time in order to watch it and fill out surveys via phone or email. Maybe this wasn't supposed to be a exciting premier of a pilot, or a throw it out there and hope no one notices it. This could be just a market survey that others just happened to catch.

Game of Thrones is big business and everyone wants to be Game of Thrones. It seems ridiculous that anyone would have the means to make a Wheel of Time series and not try to cash in on it right now.

Good or Bad?

I came to this with low expectations given and was pleasantly surprised. Other then the CG opening it didn't look that terrible and I liked Lews Therin, other then the under reaction. If this is going to be the start of a TV series we won't get much of him for a long time anyways. The portrayal of his madness worked well enough. I can imagine non-Wheel of Time fans could find it boring, confusing, and a bit too expository for an introduction to a series they weren't familiar with. A big Dragonmount finish would have helped with that.

Overall I would describe it as surprisingly not terrible and that if it was made into a series I would be willing to give it a try. If nothing else I kind of want to see Billy Zane haunting dreams as Ba'alzamon.

Jordan's wife issued a statement today that is curious:

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"This morning brought startling news. A "pilot" for a Wheel of Time series, the "pilot" being called Winter Dragon, had appeared at 1:30 in the morning, East Coast time, on FXX TV, a channel somewhere in the 700s (founded to concentrate on comedy, according to the Washington Post).

It was made without my knowledge or cooperation. I never saw the script. No one associated with Bandersnatch Group, the successor-in-interest to James O. Rigney, was aware of this.

Bandersnatch has an existing contract with Universal Pictures that grants television rights to them until this Wednesday, February 11 – at which point these rights revert to Bandersnatch.

I see no mention of Universal in the "pilot". Nor, I repeat, was Bandersnatch, or Robert Jordan's estate, informed of this in any way.

I am dumbfounded by this occurrence, and am taking steps to prevent its reoccurrence."

So I guess we're witnessing the first volley of fucking up the rights to this series so we'll never see it.
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Post by: nacho on February 09, 2015, 05:31:50 PM
So we need RC's expertise. The Wheel of Time's rights revert from Universal back to Jordan's estate on February 11th. Does showing a pilot -- even if it's a slapdash POS created without the knowledge of the estate -- count as the whole "renewing the rights" thing?
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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 09, 2015, 05:59:47 PM
Does showing a pilot -- even if it's a slapdash POS created without the knowledge of the estate -- count as the whole "renewing the rights" thing?

Yup. See Corman's Fantastic Four in the early 90s.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on February 09, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
That's sad.
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Post by: nacho on February 10, 2015, 07:28:33 AM
Here it is:


And ugh... They are fucking us over. See below. Very sad, Reggie.

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In a nutshell, Winter Dragon, which aired early this morning on FXX, was not actually FXX programming. It was "client-supplied programming," according to an FXX spokesperson — which I believe means that someone rented time on FXX to show it. Similar to a late-night infomercial.

So what gives? We spoke to Rick Selvage, CEO of Red Eagle Entertainment and the executive producer of Winter Dragon, who told us "it was more of an [issue of] getting it on the air."

Selvage had to be very careful about what he told us, but reading between the lines, it sounded as though his company has the rights to make a Wheel of Time TV series — but those rights were about to expire, unless they got something on television by a certain date.

"You probably know that a lot of pilots are put on the air at different times in different ways, and for different reasons," Selvage tells io9. As with "a lot of other properties, there's always an airdate that you need to air something by... and that was certainly part of it."

But the fact that this pilot aired in the middle of the night as paid programming does not mean there aren't lavish plans for a Wheel of Time series, says Selvage, who promises more announcements soon. Winter Dragon was "a pilot for a high-budget production television series," says Selvage. "We think there's huge demand for the television series internationally, and we're looking forward to producing it and getting it out in the marketplace."

"Obviously, the pilot was a prologue to the eye of the world, which is the first book," adds Selvage. "It was not the introduction to the series, although it is a pilot." He's gratified by the discussions he's seeing on the internet about the pilot. "Certainly, we want fans to find out about it and be excited that there's a lot more to come."

So if the show does become an ongoing series, will they need to recast? Selvage says that since Lews Therin doesn't really appear outside of the prologue, no recasting might be necessary. The prologue is "really just a dialogue between good and evil, and you have to do the prologue and the age of legends in the series." The characters of Lews and Ishmael "don't necessarily show up other than flashbacks in the series."

"We don't have to worry too much about the continuity between [the prologue] and the main story," because the actual story "starts out with young males and females at the beginning." So they don't need to worry too much about recasting those two characters.
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Post by: monkey! on February 10, 2015, 09:59:28 AM
a) Fucking Billy Zane
b) Is American TV 70% adverts?
c) Why must Billy Zane ruin everything?
d) Fucking Billy Zane.
e) "And he," not, "him."
f) Fuck Billy Zane.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 10, 2015, 10:03:36 AM
a) Fucking Billy Zane

You want me to fuck Billy Zane?

b) Is American TV 70% adverts?

That sounds about right.

c) Why must Billy Zane ruin everything?


Maybe he's in a bad mood due to all the ass-fucking?

d) Fucking Billy Zane.

Are you sure about this? I don't want to fuck him.

e) "And he," not, "him."

Fine. I don't want to fuck "he."

f) Fuck Billy Zane.

Okay, but I want him wearing his costume from The Phantom.
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Post by: nacho on February 10, 2015, 10:20:51 AM
b) Is American TV 70% adverts?


Man, this is an old saw at GS! When I was growing up, an hour long show had about 10 minutes of commercials. Now, it has 20-23 minutes of commercials. A half hour show has roughly 10 minutes of commercials.

It's criminal... I can no longer follow the plot if watching live TV.

Throw in the fact that commercials basically run all through the show as well with the advent of watermarks. These are for the channel in question -- upcoming shows, special events, etc. So the bottom of our screen is now real estate space for most channels to advertise their programming. This is sometimes insanely distracting -- flames, explosions, little minisodes playing out in the foreground as you try to watch your show in the background.

We have a bit of commercial creep going on now where they've re-instituted the "after these messages we'll be right back" and "now back to..." cards for many shows. These are now used to reiterate mature content warnings, but are also a time out to advertise the show's DVD.

So, for example, with It's Always Sunny, we have a 15 second blurb to buy the previous season's DVD after every commercial break, which ultimately sucks up another minute of airtime.
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Post by: monkey! on February 10, 2015, 05:03:37 PM
And network television wonders why so many people pay for Netflix.

Pay for Netflix, no adverts. Get YouTube for free, you get adverts.

Cable makes you pay AND watch adverts.
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Post by: nacho on February 24, 2015, 03:01:09 PM
Wow...so the shitstorm circling around the Oscars is so intense it punched through my "no news" bubble, and I actually want to watch them now. From Arquette's shocking faux pas, to Sean Penn's racist profanity, to Harris' McCarthyism slander and mocking a woman whose son committed suicide... All together (and out of context as soundbytes), it's horrifying.
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Post by: monkey! on February 24, 2015, 03:15:16 PM
Except, of course, this fake outrage is bullshit. Penn works with the guy, and they're friendly.

But, the last 5 years has seen a huge explosion in the Professional Offendee job market.
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Post by: nacho on February 24, 2015, 03:28:56 PM
I find it amusing that these Professional Offendees seem to think NPH has become his character in Gone Girl.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 27, 2015, 02:11:26 PM
The 'My Drunk Kitchen" girl is going to be Dyna Girl.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/grace-helbig-hannah-hart-star-778131 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/grace-helbig-hannah-hart-star-778131)

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Grace Helbig, Hannah Hart to Star in 'Electra Woman and Dyna Girl' Reboot

Legendary Digital Media and Fullscreen have enlisted two popular YouTubers to revive the classic 1970s children's TV series Electra Woman and Dyna Girl.

Grace Helbig and Hannah Hart are set to star in a modern reboot of the popular franchise from Sid and Marty Krofft. Helbig will star as Electra Woman and Hart will star as Dyna Girl, two superheroes who move from Akron, Ohio, to Los Angeles in the hopes of making it big in the crime-fighting world.

Electra Woman and Dyna Girl is a sci-fi series that aired a single season in 1976 as part of The Krofft Supershow. WB commissioned a pilot of a revival in 2001 that never made it to series.

This version of Electra Woman and Dyna Girl will be executive produced by the Kroffts. Fullscreen will debut and distribute the series in the United States and Legendary Television Distribution will oversee global distribution.

Chris Marrs Piliero, known for directing music videos for artists including Ariana Grande and The Black Keys, will direct the series. Helbig, Hart and their managers Ken Treusch and Sarah Weichel, respectively, will serve as executive producers. The project is produced by Tim Carter and Tomas Harlan under their Contradiction Films banner, which recently produced Dead Rising: Watchtower with Legendary Digital Media.

"Legendary is no stranger to the world of superheroes and we're excited that Sid & Marty Krofft's Electra Woman and Dyna Girl will mark the first female crime-fighting duo for our brand," said Legendary Digital Media senior vp development and production Greg Siegel. "Partnering with Fullscreen to deliver top quality digital content for our global fan base is an exciting next step for our growing digital division. I look forward to seeing how Grace and Hannah bring these caped crusaders back to life."

Added Fullscreen CEO George Strompolos: "This is basically our plot to break the Internet in 2015. As we continue to expand our premium content strategy, we're extremely proud to collaborate with such great partners and can't wait to bring this amazing concept to fans everywhere."

Helbig is also currently prepping a late-night talk show on E!, which will premiere in April. Hart, meanwhile, recently released her first book, My Drunk Kitchen: A Guide to Eating, Drinking, and Going with Your Gut.

The project is currently filming. A release date has not yet been announced.

Helbig is repped by WME and Bleecker Street Entertainment. Hart is repped by UTA and Weichel.

EDIT:

This led me to a 2001 unaired Electra Woman & Dyna Girl pilot.

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Post by: nacho on February 27, 2015, 04:04:58 PM
This heals all the wounds created by Nimoy's passing.

Everything about the post above is perfect.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on March 01, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
How did we miss the 2001 reboot?
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Post by: nacho on March 01, 2015, 02:07:07 PM
I don't know! Especially with Markie Post tied to it...man...
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Post by: nacho on March 11, 2015, 10:46:09 AM
The last hour of Ascension was pretty epic... So, if it gets a series order, it is now not about people in a generation ship (or even people who believe that), it's SyFy's answer to Person of Interest and The Prisoner as inspired by MK Ultra and Firestarter.

And...SyFy says no.

Which is fine, because they need to concentrate their budget on making The Expanse work...
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Post by: nacho on March 11, 2015, 11:22:26 AM
The 'My Drunk Kitchen" girl is going to be Dyna Girl.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/grace-helbig-hannah-hart-star-778131 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/grace-helbig-hannah-hart-star-778131)

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Grace Helbig, Hannah Hart to Star in 'Electra Woman and Dyna Girl' Reboot

Legendary Digital Media and Fullscreen have enlisted two popular YouTubers to revive the classic 1970s children's TV series Electra Woman and Dyna Girl.

Grace Helbig and Hannah Hart are set to star in a modern reboot of the popular franchise from Sid and Marty Krofft. Helbig will star as Electra Woman and Hart will star as Dyna Girl, two superheroes who move from Akron, Ohio, to Los Angeles in the hopes of making it big in the crime-fighting world.

Electra Woman and Dyna Girl is a sci-fi series that aired a single season in 1976 as part of The Krofft Supershow. WB commissioned a pilot of a revival in 2001 that never made it to series.

This version of Electra Woman and Dyna Girl will be executive produced by the Kroffts. Fullscreen will debut and distribute the series in the United States and Legendary Television Distribution will oversee global distribution.

Chris Marrs Piliero, known for directing music videos for artists including Ariana Grande and The Black Keys, will direct the series. Helbig, Hart and their managers Ken Treusch and Sarah Weichel, respectively, will serve as executive producers. The project is produced by Tim Carter and Tomas Harlan under their Contradiction Films banner, which recently produced Dead Rising: Watchtower with Legendary Digital Media.

"Legendary is no stranger to the world of superheroes and we're excited that Sid & Marty Krofft's Electra Woman and Dyna Girl will mark the first female crime-fighting duo for our brand," said Legendary Digital Media senior vp development and production Greg Siegel. "Partnering with Fullscreen to deliver top quality digital content for our global fan base is an exciting next step for our growing digital division. I look forward to seeing how Grace and Hannah bring these caped crusaders back to life."

Added Fullscreen CEO George Strompolos: "This is basically our plot to break the Internet in 2015. As we continue to expand our premium content strategy, we're extremely proud to collaborate with such great partners and can't wait to bring this amazing concept to fans everywhere."

Helbig is also currently prepping a late-night talk show on E!, which will premiere in April. Hart, meanwhile, recently released her first book, My Drunk Kitchen: A Guide to Eating, Drinking, and Going with Your Gut.

The project is currently filming. A release date has not yet been announced.

Helbig is repped by WME and Bleecker Street Entertainment. Hart is repped by UTA and Weichel.

EDIT:

This led me to a 2001 unaired Electra Woman & Dyna Girl pilot.



The early photos look great! The new outfits are awesome. Flat stomachs and no camel toe leotards!
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Post by: RottingCorpse on March 11, 2015, 11:43:40 AM
Link!
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Post by: nacho on March 11, 2015, 12:05:21 PM
Link!



(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/ewdgreboot2500-1426027793-22.jpg)
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Post by: RottingCorpse on March 11, 2015, 12:17:48 PM
So, Hannah Hart, who while cute as a button, never struck me as "hot" until just now.

This is going to be fun.
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Post by: nacho on March 11, 2015, 12:26:37 PM
So, Hannah Hart, who while cute as a button, never struck me as "hot" until just now.

This is going to be fun.

Her Hotness Factor has been fascinating to watch over the past few years. She wasn't hot but, as she became a Youtube celebrity, she slowly morphed from frumpy hipster to "my channel earns enough money for me to get a complete makeover."

It's Felicia Day Syndrome. From girl next door to chain-mail bra geek goddess. 
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Post by: nacho on March 24, 2015, 03:33:32 PM
Love this...


http://io9.com/the-10-strangest-cartoon-only-transformers-characters-1693372724

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Is Tyrwas the one true god of the Transformers universe? Did Tyrwas summon the Autbots and Decepticons to fight on earth as punishment for not recognizing his divinity? So many questions!
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on March 26, 2015, 04:09:02 PM
Old Snake! HA!
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Post by: RottingCorpse on March 27, 2015, 11:01:03 AM
Old Snake was the last neat moment of the entire series.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on March 30, 2015, 10:31:52 AM
This is really the most logical kind of choice Comedy Central can make: A complete reboot with a virtual unknown that skews younger. Is this guy as funny as Jon Stewart is now? Hell, no, but who knows what he'll evolve into?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/arts/television/trevor-noah-to-succeed-jon-stewart-on-the-daily-show.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/arts/television/trevor-noah-to-succeed-jon-stewart-on-the-daily-show.html)

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Trevor Noah to Succeed Jon Stewart on ‘The Daily Show’

In December, Trevor Noah, a 31-year-old comedian, made his debut as an on-air contributor on “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart,” offering his outsider’s perspective, as a biracial South African, on the United States.

“I never thought I’d be more afraid of police in America than in South Africa,” he said with a smile. “It kind of makes me a little nostalgic for the old days, back home.”

Now, after only three appearances on that Comedy Central show, Mr. Noah has gotten a huge and unexpected promotion. On Monday, Comedy Central will announce that Mr. Noah has been chosen as the new host of “The Daily Show,” succeeding Mr. Stewart after he steps down later this year.

The network’s selection of Mr. Noah comes less than two months after Mr. Stewart, 52, revealed on Feb. 10 that he was leaving “The Daily Show” after a highly successful 16-year run that transformed the show into authoritative, satirical comedy on current events. (An exact timetable for Mr. Stewart’s departure has not been decided, Comedy Central said.)

Mr. Noah, who spoke by phone from Dubai, where he is on a leg of a comedy tour, said he had been given a great opportunity, as well as a significant challenge.

“You don’t believe it for the first few hours,” Mr. Noah said of learning about his new job. “You need a stiff drink, and then unfortunately you’re in a place where you can’t really get alcohol.”

The appointment of Mr. Noah, a newcomer to American television, promises to add youthful vitality and international perspective to “The Daily Show.” It puts a nonwhite performer at the head of this flagship Comedy Central franchise, and one who comes with Mr. Stewart’s endorsement.

“I’m thrilled for the show and for Trevor,” Mr. Stewart said in a statement. “He’s a tremendous comic and talent that we’ve loved working with.” Mr. Stewart added that he “may rejoin as a correspondent just to be a part of it!!!”

But the decision also invites questions about Mr. Noah’s experience and visibility (or lack thereof), and why the network did not choose a woman to crack the all-male club of late-night television hosts.

Michele Ganeless, the Comedy Central president, said in an interview: “We talked to women. We talked to men. We found in Trevor the best person for the job.”

Ms. Ganeless added: “You don’t hope to find the next Jon Stewart – there is no next Jon Stewart. So, our goal was to find someone who brings something really exciting and new and different.”

In his standup routines, Mr. Noah comes across as a self-assured polyglot with an international perspective.

As he joked in a 2013 comedy set on “Late Show With David Letterman,” Mr. Noah said that he did not like being introduced as a comedian from Africa, as if he represented the entire continent. “They make it sound like a guy in leopard skin’s going to come running on the stage,” he said.

Mr. Noah said in his phone interview, “I didn’t live a normal life – I grew up in a country that wasn’t normal.”

He grew up in Soweto, the son of a black Xhosa mother and a white Swiss father, whose union was illegal during the apartheid era. “My mother had to be very clandestine about who my father was,” Mr. Noah said. “He couldn’t be on my birth certificate.”

By the time he started performing stand-up in his 20s, Mr. Noah said he had long been taught that “speaking freely about anything, as a person of color, was considered treason.”

His globetrotting spirit (and ability to speak six languages) set him apart in comedy, and he performed widely in the United States between 2010 and 2012, eventually coming to Mr. Stewart’s attention about two years ago.

When Mr. Stewart announced his plans to depart “The Daily Show,” Ms. Ganeless said that Comedy Central quickly drew up “a shortlist” of possible successors “and Trevor checked off every box on that list and then some.”

“He brings such a unique worldview and a deep understanding of human nature, which makes his comedy so insightful,” she added. “He’s truly a student of the world.”

Mr. Noah gave no formal auditions for the job, outside of his performances on “The Daily Show” and elsewhere.

Ms. Ganeless said the decision was made after she “huddled” with Doug Herzog, the president of Viacom’s entertainment group, and Kent Alterman, the Comedy Central president of content development and original programming, while Mr. Stewart acted as “our consigliere through the whole process.”

During this time, fan support emerged for other longtime “Daily Show” cast members, including Samantha Bee, who joined in 2003 and is leaving to create a comedy news show for TBS.

A grassroots campaign also coalesced around Jessica Williams, who has appeared on “The Daily Show” since 2012. However, she wrote on her Twitter account, “Thank you but I am extremely under-qualified for the job!”

Ms. Ganeless said she would not comment “on any specific names or conversations” that came up during the search.

She said that Comedy Central’s commitment to “The Nightly Show,” a newly introduced series that follows “The Daily Show” with Larry Wilmore as host, “does not waver,” and that Mr. Stewart remains a producer of that program.

Ms. Ganeless said there had not been “any specific conversations” about what personnel would work with Mr. Noah on “The Daily Show,” but added that “he respects and admires the team there that has built the institution.”

Mr. Noah said he expected to be criticized and second-guessed long before his first episode as host. “We live in a world where some people still say Beyoncé can’t sing,” he said. “Clearly I’m not immune to that.”

But in his conversations with Mr. Stewart, Mr. Noah said that he had found a kindred spirit in a fellow comedian who was not much further along when he came to “The Daily Show.”

“He told me, ‘I was where you were when I took over the show,’ ” Mr. Noah said. “ ‘Nobody knew me. I was just starting out, finding my voice, and that’s when I was handed this seat.’ ”

“Now,” Mr. Noah added, “it’s my turn to steer the ship.”
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Post by: nacho on April 01, 2015, 03:19:48 PM
This is really the most logical kind of choice Comedy Central can make: A complete reboot with a virtual unknown that skews younger. Is this guy as funny as Jon Stewart is now? Hell, no, but who knows what he'll evolve into?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/arts/television/trevor-noah-to-succeed-jon-stewart-on-the-daily-show.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/arts/television/trevor-noah-to-succeed-jon-stewart-on-the-daily-show.html)


Not mentioned: They asked Amy Poehler, Louis C.K., and Amy Schumer first. All three turned it down.
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Post by: nacho on April 14, 2015, 03:42:06 PM
So here's an interesting comment on piracy... The first five episodes of Game of Thrones were leaked and, my god, they had the fuck torrented out of them. Of course. The Geek Community walks hand-in-hand with the pirate community.

In the past, when this has happened, folks have been appalled. This happened to a Doctor Who premiere and it was all shame shame, you're killing our show, you're the greatest enemy of modern mankind...

HBO sort of shrugged it off and, come the premiere, the ratings were record breaking. The highest that the show has gotten yet.

So, the question: In this case, there was no impact from the piracy. What was different? And does piracy actually have an affect, or is it all (as I believe) wild talk and propaganda? I've long believed that the pirate community is so minuscule -- tens of thousands -- compared to what a show demands to stay on the air (millions). Leaked episodes had no impact on GoT...and I bet they won't as the series continues this season. 
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Post by: nacho on April 22, 2015, 03:19:31 PM
Hmmm...

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Cancelled fictional TV show Galaxy Quest may return to the medium it was never on in the first place. Deadline reports Paramount Television is putting together a series project based on the 1999 movie and involving key players from the film.

The feature’s Hugo-winning screenwriter, Robert Gordon — expected to write the TV version — director, Dean Parisot, and producer Mark Johnson are anticipated to be executive producers of the potential TV series, along with Melissa Bernstein.
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Post by: nacho on May 06, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
Wow... So Amy Schumer's episode-long 12 Angry Men spoof where they're debating whether or not she's hot enough to be on TV was amazing.
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Post by: nacho on May 29, 2015, 08:38:41 AM
Mr Robot! The show premieres on USA on June 24th, but the commercial-free pilot is on demand everywhere. It was...very good.

The only bad note was Christian Slater, but I think they're doing a Fight Club: The TV Series thing, in which case Slater's stupid character makes sense.

So, assuming Slater isn't actually a real character, this show should have potential. Worth watching the pilot.
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Post by: nacho on June 01, 2015, 11:53:19 AM
SGU Season 3 Pandorum Stargate: Atlantis Dark Matter premiers on June 12th!

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Post by: nacho on June 13, 2015, 11:35:29 AM
Dark Matter was quite good... Stargate meets Blake's 7. Perfect, actually.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 15, 2015, 03:18:33 PM
This whole Will Ferrel/Kristen Wiig Lifetime movie thing/hoax is making my brain explode. Is it a parody? A joke? Is playing it straight the joke?

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Post by: nacho on June 15, 2015, 04:15:53 PM
This whole Will Ferrel/Kristen Wiig Lifetime movie thing/hoax is making my brain explode. Is it a parody? A joke? Is playing it straight the joke?


Have you been following this? It was "leaked" on April 1st and Ferrel and Wiig both said that, because the pirates "spoiled" the movie, they were pulling the project. This snowballed on April 2nd where Lifetime said they would release it anyway, and now both parties are locked in a battle of wills. It's coming out "against their wishes."

Hollywood Reporter called it a "campy and fun parody," but then they recanted.

The best wrap up of this is here:

http://www.cutprintfilm.com/tv/a-deadly-adoption/

So the debate rages on as to whether or not this movie even exists. If so, is Lifetime in on the joke? And why?

It's all very... Kaufman-esque.

As for the leak -- it didn't show up anywhere online and no one has seen it.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 15, 2015, 04:22:25 PM
It was "leaked" on April 1st

The date of the "leak" says a lot though, no?
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Post by: nacho on June 15, 2015, 04:44:15 PM
It was "leaked" on April 1st

The date of the "leak" says a lot though, no?

It does.

I, for one, hope this is some sort of Kaufman-inspired thing.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on June 15, 2015, 06:14:19 PM
It can be hard to tell these days.

I snickered at what I assumed was a parody ad for blackpeoplemeet.com, but of course it's real. I met 7 black people almost immediately!
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Post by: nacho on June 17, 2015, 08:35:40 AM
The big problem I have with Tyrant is that the wife was such a fucking bitch when he wanted to flee the country and, now that she convinced him to stay, he's involved in the family fuckery, and she's being a bitch about that. Even though he clearly warned her that they had to get as far away as possible.

Also, they've just given up on the two kids. There was the feeble gay subplot with the son, but that seems to have been abandoned...and the daughter, I think, got Chuck Cunninghamed.

It's really a very annoying show.


Season 2 of this horrible show! Yay! I had avoided news because I wanted to pretend it was cancelled.

It's still awful.
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Post by: nacho on June 17, 2015, 03:12:51 PM
This will pass a few minutes! Even more if you start researching these, or follow the lead in the comments on the St. Elsewhere conspiracy theory...


http://mentalfloss.com/article/65017/9-crazy-conspiracy-theories-about-tv-shows
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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 17, 2015, 04:44:06 PM
The Flintstones/Jetsons one is awesome.
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Post by: nacho on June 17, 2015, 04:51:05 PM
The Flintstones/Jetsons one is awesome.

Sorry, I'm very busy right now trying to reconcile with the fact that the Fresh Prince was dead for six seasons.
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Post by: nacho on June 22, 2015, 12:17:32 PM
It was "leaked" on April 1st

The date of the "leak" says a lot though, no?

It does.

I, for one, hope this is some sort of Kaufman-inspired thing.

So, apparently, this was a serious drama. I didn't watch it...

But, even then, the critics aren't quite sure:


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Adoption is a meticulous recreation of a Lifetime potboiler, played completely straight by its entire cast, save for a few minutes at the end. It’s not a spoof or a riff, it’s the real thing, right down to the note.

...

 Ferrell and Wiig’s performances are a bit too nuanced, as if they’re afraid pushing it any harder would tilt the film from homage to parody.

The regular viewers, though, say it was clearly comedy:


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I thought there were a lot of funny lines.

"When we lost the baby, I went crazy. I said yes to every book tour."

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Yeah, this was bang on... I laughed my ass off...

"If you need anything... else- batteries, lighter fluid- it's in here!"
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Post by: nacho on June 24, 2015, 02:18:59 PM
Jesus... I got totally into this list, as well. Bye-bye lunchtime...


http://www.vulture.com/2015/06/every-seinfeld-episode-ranked.html
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Post by: nacho on June 25, 2015, 12:07:22 PM
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CBS RENEWS HIT SERIES “UNDER THE DOME” AND “EXTANT”

Despite a significant ratings dip, the network has opted to renew the apocalyptic drama, as expected, with the show’s lucrative Amazon deal no doubt a factor in the decision.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

The premiere is tonight, sucker!
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on June 25, 2015, 04:44:42 PM
I've been dreading this day for 9 months.
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Post by: nacho on July 01, 2015, 12:42:01 PM
In the second episode of Tyrant, nothing happens as our main guy shelters with a family in a small village on the edge of the desert. They don't yet know who he is even though he's basically the most recognizable person in the entire world at this point.

Meanwhile, his fucking wife and kids inherit 100 million bucks and his wife is getting cozy with her lawyer and rediscovering hr Catholicism.

Meanwhile, in the palace, everyone is fiddling as Rome burns
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Post by: nacho on July 02, 2015, 10:59:12 AM
Episode two of Mr. Robot didn't quite hold up... Though I appreciate the Kubrick-isms, and they clearly are fans of Utopia. But, you know, Slater and the Fight Club thing just drags it down. Plus our main guy isn't as bad ass as he was in the pilot. There's the stupid love interest, and the downstairs neighbor (secondary love interest), and his life is annoying and tedious. They're trying to be edgy about it -- he's hooked on hard drugs, he's an anarchist, whatever -- but it just feels like the edge has been dulled by political correctness and a glitzy sort of network weirdness. Case in point, in re to the latter observation, I didn't realize that we hit a commercial break because the moody New York zoom in on a Lexus for a car commercial felt and looked just like more Mr. Robot.
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Post by: nacho on July 07, 2015, 08:45:55 AM
I'm not really an anime guy, but I'm totally absorbed in this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes

It's an epic space opera based on a series of novels. The main story revolves around two commanders on opposite sides who catapult through the ranks Horatio Hornblower style. The two are pitted against each other in the midst of a sort of forever war between an autocratic empire and a jingoistic, corrupt democracy, though neither are particularly loyal to their side. They're just soldiers doing their job.

It's surprisingly well done.



This is great news! What an amazing series this was. Better than anything I've seen of this ilk, and talk about satisfying the need for a space opera. It's not just 110 episodes, there's a sidequel series that's 52 episodes and there are about 8 movies that are prequels/spin-offs/sidequels.

Though, in this day and age, they're all available online. Getting the series here legally is no big whoop, in the end. The truly exciting news below is that we're getting the novels!



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There are few things more frustrating for fans than knowing something excellent exists but having no way to (legally) see it. At least in the case of Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Sentai Filmworks has good news.

Legend of the Galactic Heroes started as a series of ten novels by Yoshiki Tanaka (slated for their own release here starting in Spring of 2016) and then became a sprawling series of animated films and episodes. The main series was 110 episodes made over ten years, for example.

There’s a tyrannical Galactic Empire and a rebellion — the Free Planets Alliance — which have been at war for 150 years before the anime starts. Something that complicated and large is likely what kept it from being distributed for so long.

Put this down as the chance of having a chance to get it, though: there’s no information about when or how it will be released.
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Post by: nacho on July 08, 2015, 01:24:59 PM
I watched the latest episode of Tyrant but I don't know if I can describe the plot. I know we got a magical mystery son, and some silly subplot that will force the family to go back and claim their inheritance which should nicely setup ridiculous tension as our main guy continues to...hide and milk goats and do absolutely nothing at all in scene after scene after scene...
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Post by: nacho on July 09, 2015, 11:54:02 AM
Mr. Robot, episode three. I'm still with this show... But I'm going to need them to explain the Mr. Robot team. It still seems like no one could see Christian Slater, which was a bit too Fight Club'y for my taste. But then, last episode, I started to think that no one could see ANY of the Mr. Robot squad. That would have been cool... As I thought about it, each of the characters working for Mr. Robot could very easily stand in as the various emotions from a shattered, drug-addled personality. It was fairly obvious, last week, that no one was able to see Mr Robot's girl. Yet, this week, they could see her. So my theory is out the door and, now, we have a problem... If these people are real and people can see them, how come they get to move through scenes like they aren't there and, 90% of the time, people act as if they can't see them?

I might be looking too much into this show, but it's on thin ice as far as I'm concerned. It's saved only by the American Psycho bad guy and the Anonymous vs. Evil Corp thing right now. It still needs to find its way as far as the characters go, though.
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Post by: nacho on July 09, 2015, 12:13:23 PM
io9 has been crowing about the new fall show Lucifer. It's got me intrigued...


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Lucifer

I loved this stupid show. It aims hard for funny and camp—and nails it. If this show aimed for anything deeper, it’d be a mess. Instead, it’s hilarious.

Here’s the plot: Lucifer has abandoned Hell for a nightclub. In Los Angeles. And he tries to help someone (partly because he likes her, partly to prove he doesn’t have to be evil) and she’s murdered. This, in turn, puts Lucifer into the path of an actress-turned-cop, who is immune to his powers. So, of course, they team up to solve crime. Which is a problem for the Heaven-Hell balance, since now Lucifer’s flat out refusing to go do his job.

Things that shouldn’t work—an actress turned cop!—actually make sense in this show. My god, there’s a bit where a kid befriends the actual devil, and it’s amazing. HE GOES TO THERAPY. He goes around calling himself “Lucifer Morningstar,” a name so ridiculous that everyone just kind of shrugs and moves on.

The reason everything in this show works is because Tom Ellis is absolutely perfect as Lucifer. Pretty much all the comedic heavy lifting falls on him, and he knocks it out of the park. He’s mostly insouciant, but he can also be angry and contemplative. But it’s mostly how funny he is—in his mannerisms and line delivery—that made the pilot a delight. When the cop asks if Lucifer Morningstar is his stage name, he says it’s “God-given” with a perfectly knowing tone. The show’s written well enough, but he’s a star.

Oh, and the soundtrack is amazing.
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Post by: nacho on July 12, 2015, 12:26:33 PM
Shannara!!

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Post by: nacho on July 12, 2015, 01:16:25 PM
Oh my god. Sapphire and Steel? really?


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Neil Cross—the creator of Luther and Crossbones—has announced that he’s working on a revival of the ’70s British sci-fi/horror series Sapphire And Steel.

That's pretty much the most bonkers sci-fi show ever made.
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Post by: nacho on July 14, 2015, 07:23:11 AM
The Last Ship is so stupid...

"Where the hell did they get a sub?"

I don't know, captain. I mean, just in the last episode, you were sitting in the Oval Office while we searched an abandoned White House. So I suppose they could have gotten a sub just about anywhere because it's the apocalypse but the writer's room forgets that every 20 minutes.
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Post by: nacho on July 22, 2015, 02:41:23 PM
The return of the Muppets to TV hasn't really been on my radar. Loved it as a kid, don't really give a damn now. But this 10 minute sizzle reel that convinced ABC to greenlight the project is really great...


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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 26, 2015, 11:04:37 AM
I <3 Hannah Hart.

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Post by: nacho on July 27, 2015, 08:27:23 AM
That trailer fills me with a indescribable rage.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 27, 2015, 09:33:48 AM
Really? Is this "they didn't stay true to the spirit of the original" rage? Or is it the Hollywood "new fame" pandering?

I could make a point about how reinvention of superhero mythos for movies or TV is a good thing, but maybe that's not what bothers you.
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Post by: nacho on July 27, 2015, 03:21:25 PM
Really? Is this "they didn't stay true to the spirit of the original" rage? Or is it the Hollywood "new fame" pandering?

I could make a point about how reinvention of superhero mythos for movies or TV is a good thing, but maybe that's not what bothers you.

It reeks of the same anti-female-empowerment as the Jem reboot. EW and DG have gone from a media mogul and strong feminist (and her buddy) to two idiots controlled by a man.
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Post by: nacho on July 30, 2015, 08:34:05 AM
Interesting to note how many TV shows this season are being made with the DVD release in mind. Almost every new show this year has characters saying "fuck" several times an episode, with the word silently "bleeped" out. Mr Robot is probably the biggest example, but I've seen it in just about every other new show this season, even the sci-fi stuff.
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Post by: nacho on August 19, 2015, 08:09:39 PM
Motherfucking yay.

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Even just a few years ago, it seemed like science fiction was an endangered species on television. But now, there’s a new wave of smart, ambitious science fiction coming to the small screen. And meanwhile, a lot of original SF has flopped at the movies.

The Daily Beast talked to a lot of people in science fiction for a big feature the other day, and the consensus seemed to be that original, non-franchise SF is struggling at the movies. But there’s a new chance for it to do well on television, particularly cable and digital.

The article’s main points seem to be that movies increasingly demand big well known franchises, which is why Jurassic World is a mega-hit but great films like Edge of Tomorrow and Ex Machina barely make a dent. Movies are all about “remakes, sequels, recycled TV shows, comic books, YA novels that are bestsellers,” says Steven Gaydos with Variety. And with movies depending more and more on the international market, movies can’t do well if they depend on the hard-to-translate “verbal wit” or subtle dialogue, versus huge spectacle and explosions.

Meanwhile, according to the people interviewed, television now can do spectacle on a TV budget, thanks to advances in CG animation. Plus there’s more space for world-building on TV than in movies, particularly when it comes to fleshing out the characters and their backstories.

The Daily Beast article quotes Bill McGoldrick, Syfy’s head of original programming, as saying that TV has changed for the better in the past decade or so:

TV in general allows for much more challenging material than it ever has before... The proliferation of serialized TV, that doesn’t play by the rules it used to; all the old rules got blown out of the water. Battlestar Galactica became an example of that. Or it’s the Breaking Bads, the Mad Mens, The Sopranos.
And Gale Ann Hurd, who produces The Walking Dead and the upcoming Syfy series Hunters, says that television is increasingly the home of character-driven storytelling:

Television, especially in the cable world, is focused on telling character-driven stories that unfold slowly. As producers we are able to peel away the layers to reveal character insights and complex plot twists that take time to develop slowly. In major studio science fiction films these days, the focus tends to be on spectacle, action and visual effects rather than character. I’ve never once received a studio note on a feature to slow down the pace and focus on character.
Perhaps most significantly, television is increasingly where the most interesting books (except for The Martian and a few others) are getting adapted. Witness the upcoming adaptations of Childhood’s End, The Expanse, Foundation, The Man in the High Castle and a few others. It’ll be interesting to see if these TV adaptations can actually live up to their source material, though.

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Post by: nacho on August 28, 2015, 12:19:22 PM
A Galaxy Quest TV series is the Star Trek TV series we deserve. Just saying.
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Post by: nacho on September 18, 2015, 09:20:08 AM
I...uh...wait....what?

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The 1979 movie Time After Time by Nicholas Meyer, based on and concurrently written with the novel of the same name by Karl Alexander, is set to become a series from Kevin Williamson, the creator of The Following and Stalker.

 
The movie followed science fiction (or so we thought) author Herbert George “H.G.” Wells (Malcolm McDowell) after he builds a time machine, which is subsequently used by his surgeon friend Leslie John Stephenson (David Warner), who turns out to be Jack the Ripper, and he’s just escaped to 1979. H.G. pursues him in the time machine, where he is befriended by and falls in love with Amy Robbins (Mary Steenburgen).
ABC has purchased the project with a script commitment from Warner Bros. TV under a deal Williamson has with the studio.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on September 21, 2015, 02:36:42 PM
You understand this is a Hollywood response to NuWHo, yes?
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Post by: nacho on September 21, 2015, 06:52:28 PM
You understand this is a Hollywood response to NuWHo, yes?

I've been worrying that NuWho is a Hollywood response to NuWho, actually.
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Post by: nacho on September 23, 2015, 09:11:10 AM
So...

The Muppets.

I sort of went into it blind and I was horrified. It is the most violent and evil example of raping and destroying my childhood that I have ever witnessed. It's horrible. Even the Muppets themselves, the design, have a sock puppet soullessness to them.

I can barely put my emotions into words. I don't know what else to say.
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Post by: nacho on September 24, 2015, 09:00:53 AM
So both movies-to-TV, Minority Report and Limitless, are awful.

On the one hand, Minority Report feels too much like they were obsessed with the movie. On the other, Limitless, bizarrely (since it's actually all the same people from the movie and even recycles footage) feels like it doesn't know about the movie).

The latter is the more disturbing because the pilot episode is an all over the board mess. Loser guy takes super pills, gets in trouble. Okay. So then Bradley Cooper from the movie drafts him to be his super secret agent. Um...okay! That's cool. But then he is also drafted by the FBI to be their super agent...but the two camps can't know about each other...and the FBI wants to find the maker of the super drug...some of them to patent it, others for revenge. It's like there were two or three ideas for the overall direction of the show and someone said "Let's do them all!!"
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Post by: RottingCorpse on September 29, 2015, 10:45:09 AM
So...

The Muppets.

I sort of went into it blind and I was horrified. It is the most violent and evil example of raping and destroying my childhood that I have ever witnessed. It's horrible. Even the Muppets themselves, the design, have a sock puppet soullessness to them.

I can barely put my emotions into words. I don't know what else to say.

All my Muppet loving friends feel betrayed by it. I'm not even going to attempt to watch it.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on September 29, 2015, 01:12:02 PM
So here is another voice. My friend who has followed what has been done with the Muppets over the past 15, 20 years thinks this is a perfect evolution.
He said he laughed a lot, as did he and his wife when he watched with her later. Yes, it's different than the Muppet show of your youth, but honestly there have been many shows, movies, and other "stuff" Muppet related since then and this is just the next step.
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Post by: nacho on September 29, 2015, 01:19:29 PM
So here is another voice. My friend who has followed what has been done with the Muppets over the past 15, 20 years thinks this is a perfect evolution.
He said he laughed a lot, as did he and his wife when he watched with her later. Yes, it's different than the Muppet show of your youth, but honestly there have been many shows, movies, and other "stuff" Muppet related since then and this is just the next step.

The modern Muppets have been somewhat in league with the past, though. Certainly the recent Muppet movie was very...Muppets.

This is a remake of the Office that's full of the expected back-biting, cynicism, joylessness, and angst.

The only clear "thread" here is the same one that's always been there for the franchise -- that the Muppets are real and interact with society in real ways. But you can do that with joy and, at least, some respect for your audience.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on September 29, 2015, 02:34:43 PM

This is a remake of the Office that's full of the expected back-biting, cynicism, joylessness, and angst.


My buddy, who is a huge Muppets fan, echoed the joylessness remark and talked about how that sense of joy (or the quest for it) is what defines the Muppets. Stripping them of that also strips them of a certain innocence that my buddy believes is essential to them.

I just don't think I need cynical Muppets in my life. I'll go see Avenue Q if I do.
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Post by: Reginald McGraw on September 29, 2015, 02:58:45 PM

The modern Muppets have been somewhat in league with the past, though. Certainly the recent Muppet movie was very...Muppets.

Yes, and his complaint was that the most recent 2 movies (especially the first one), sort of ignored anything that had happened since the last movie however many years before.

I will stop now, because I haven't even seen this new show.
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Post by: nacho on September 29, 2015, 03:34:36 PM

The modern Muppets have been somewhat in league with the past, though. Certainly the recent Muppet movie was very...Muppets.

Yes, and his complaint was that the most recent 2 movies (especially the first one), sort of ignored anything that had happened since the last movie however many years before.

I will stop now, because I haven't even seen this new show.

By that logic, all the Muppets should be remodeled to look like they're elderly.
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Post by: nacho on September 29, 2015, 04:28:26 PM
From one of the (many) bad reviews:

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"I liked Avenue Q and I liked Wonder Showzen and I remember Greg the Bunny being underrated and I think the original Ted is the best work to date by one of America’s worst filmmakers ... They’re funny because they’re deeply sad. They take the core concept of The Velveteen Rabbit and turn it inside out, presenting a world where instead of becoming loveworn and thereby real, our childhood pals just grow up to be shitty, diminished adults like the rest of us. This is a rich premise for stories that depend on our winking recognition that we’re looking at Muppets once removed. But on The Muppets, diminished adulthood has come for the actual Muppets, and it’s really depressing."
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Post by: RottingCorpse on November 11, 2015, 01:07:50 PM
Finally digging into Gervais' 'Derek. I had watched he pilot last year and it didn't stick. but the past few days I've revisited it and the first half of Season 1, and am enjoying it thoroughly. It's got a pathos that, yes, is a bit emotionally manipulative but seems to be the exact tone I need right now. It's like a maudlin "Parks & Rec." So much heart.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on December 10, 2015, 01:10:29 PM
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/red-mars-spike-series-order-1201656112/ (http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/red-mars-spike-series-order-1201656112/)

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Spike Gives Straight-to-Series Order to ‘Red Mars’ (EXCLUSIVE)

Spike has made a big move into scripted programming, giving “Red Mars” a straight-to-series order with 10-episodes, Variety has learned exclusively. The hourlong drama marks the cabler’s first original scripted series in nine years.

“Sense8” co-creator J. Michael Straczynski will serve as writer, exec producer and showrunner on “Red Mars.” He will exec produce with “Game of Thrones” co-exec producer Vince Gerardis, who first brought the project to Spike, plus David Ellison, Dana Goldberg and Marcy Ross of Skydance Television, which is the studio on the series.

Based on Kim Stanley Robinson’s Mars Trilogy of novels — “Red Mars,” “Green Mars” and “Blue Mars” — which chronicle mankind’s colonization and transformation of the red planet, the series will follow the first settlers charged with terraforming a mysterious planet, all of whom have competed to be a part of the mission. “Red Mars” will delve into the lives of these relative strangers, cut off from everything they’ve ever known and living in the harshest environment imaginable. Regarded as the best novels ever written on the subject, Robinson’s trilogy has been adapted in 21 languages.

“The heart and soul of ‘Red Mars’ is about humanity. This group of strangers must find a way to live together and survive under the most daunting conditions mankind has ever faced to become the first living generation of Martians. They will be each other’s greatest source of strength — and if they can’t coexist — the greatest reason for failure,” said Spike’s exec vice president of original series, Sharon Levy, who will oversee the project, along with Spike’s Ted Gold, Justin Lacob and Lauren Ruggiero.

“We are thrilled to join forces with Spike to bring Kim Stanley Robinson’s dynamic world of the Mars trilogy to television audiences for the first time ever, particularly in the brilliant creative voice of science fiction legend J. Michael Straczynski,” added Marcy Ross, president of Skydance Television, which is also behind WGN America’s “Manhattan” and Netflix’s “Grace and Frankie.”

“I look forward to being a part of bringing my long time client’s literary achievement to the screen. Its themes are important to the future we are creating,” Gerardis added of Robinson, who will consult on the series.

The order for “Red Mars” comes after Spike axed plans for Jerry Bruckheimer’s drama “Harvest,” after ordering a 10-episode series, as sources said Spike had difficulty finding a top showrunner and high-profile lead.

Until this summer, it was nearly a decade since the Viacom-owned network had scripted fare, though in July, miniseries “Tut” performed very well for the cabler, averaging 2.2 million viewers over three nights.

Vlad Wolynetz, who worked on “Tut,” will serve as co-exec producer on “Red Mars.” Along with Skydance TV, Straczynski’s Studio JMS company, which is behind “Sense8” at Netflix, will also produce the upcoming Spike series.

“Red Mars” is set to go into production next summer for a January 2017 debut.
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Post by: nacho on December 10, 2015, 01:46:52 PM
I remember when there was no sci-fi on TV, back in the 80s.

And now... Well, weirdly, it feels like too much. It's like I'm living in a "be careful what you wish for" morality play.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on December 10, 2015, 02:51:34 PM
I remember when there was no sci-fi on TV, back in the 80s.

And now... Well, weirdly, it feels like too much. It's like I'm living in a "be careful what you wish for" morality play.

That's how I feel about superhero movies.
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Post by: nacho on January 06, 2016, 07:13:18 PM
Shannara!!



*seems to have nothing to do with the Shannara books and is overly impressed with itself*
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Post by: nacho on January 08, 2016, 10:47:34 AM
Okay...so now, officially, the apocalypse has begun:


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Good afternoon, boils and ghouls! By now we all know that just because a TV series gets the axe (or the cleaver, or the hatchet), that doesn’t mean it’s dead. Killer BOB, The Cigarette-Smoking Man, The Deadites, Lady Gaga: They’re all getting a new afterlife on TV, and frankly your pal the Cryptkeeper was feeling a little left out. I’m a fun-dead guy! I know how to kick back and relax with an ice-cold br-ooooo! But when Tales From The Darkside got picked up for a new season on The CW, well, scabies and mental men, that was the last straw.

So I booked a ticket to Chill-adelphia and kidnapped M. Night Shyamalan—you know, the one who did the movie with BOOOce Chill-is and Scaley Troll AGGGHment?—and brought him back to my mansion to curate a re-BOOO-ted version of my classic TV show.
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Post by: nacho on January 14, 2016, 12:33:12 PM
Jesus...okay. Well, I can't do Shannara. I really wanted it to work but, ugh.
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Post by: nacho on January 14, 2016, 01:12:28 PM
I love io9

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The Shannara Chronicles Is Like Watching Level One D&D Characters Start a Campaign
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Post by: nacho on January 21, 2016, 01:21:38 PM
Recently re-read the series...and, man, it really holds up. I think it's better now than when I first read it. It's one of those PA series that's not yet been copied to death.

So...good news here:

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A television adaptation of Brian K. Vaughan’s seminal dystopian comic Y: The Last Man has been kicking around in development at FX for a few months now, and it sounds like good news could be coming soon.

While speaking with IGN, FX CEO John Landgraf offered up a small but critical update on the project. First up, yes, it’s still in active development —and an update should be hitting in the near future to let us know the creative team that will be joining Vaughan to bring it to life. A film version has already died in development hell almost a decade ago, and there’s no denying the comic is a tricky project to adapt.

Check out his comments below:

“There’s a kind of a scrum of interest in that. We’ve had a number of producers and writers who really want to participate in that. Ultimately, it’s Brian’s call who he wants to work with and I think that’ll come out soon.”

It’s great to hear there’s a good bit of interest in the project, and it’s even more encouraging to see the network taking its time in deciding who will be at the helm. Vaughan will be producing the series, and it seems he has a good bit of say on who joins him in the writers’ room. Here’s hoping they can strike the right team and finally bring Yorick to the screen.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on January 21, 2016, 09:14:32 PM
This has been on my "to read" list for years. I feel like it's like TimeCrimes at this point: When I finally see it, all I'll see is how much it's been ripped off.
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Post by: nacho on January 22, 2016, 09:32:58 AM
This has been on my "to read" list for years. I feel like it's like TimeCrimes at this point: When I finally see it, all I'll see is how much it's been ripped off.

But it hasn't. That's the cool thing about it. Z Nation...sorta. But, more or less, Y ripped off the journeyman sci-fi of the 70s, and gave it an intelligent, charming, and fast-paced twist.

I did my re-read over Christmas and it still felt original and exciting.
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Post by: monkey! on January 29, 2016, 01:49:32 AM
At last: episode 4 of Always Sunny season 11 is good.
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Post by: nacho on January 29, 2016, 08:43:54 AM
At last: episode 4 of Always Sunny season 11 is good.

Yeah. It was a slow start this year.
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Post by: nacho on February 01, 2016, 04:56:46 PM
So...I love Archer. I always have. And this promo for the new season is why:

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Post by: nacho on February 12, 2016, 10:57:30 AM
Oh, I love you Broad City.

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Post by: nacho on February 15, 2016, 11:25:49 AM
Sam Bee's show is hilarious. She's the first one to successfully fill Stewart's shoes.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 15, 2016, 11:35:34 AM
I don't know they just didn't go ahead an make her Stewart's actual replacement.
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Post by: nacho on February 15, 2016, 12:06:49 PM
I don't know they just didn't go ahead an make her Stewart's actual replacement.

Because she's a woman. Which is actually the reason and not just her joking.
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Post by: nacho on April 29, 2016, 02:04:41 PM
So, once again, dominant female characters from my youth are now under the thumb of a man. The Electra-Woman and Dyna-Girl trailer pisses me off to no end, just like Jem. 40 years ago, Electra-Woman was a self-made millionaire and a titan of industry. Now she's a goober with a sidekick from Ohio who signs up with a male agent who gives them a make over. Lovely.


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Post by: nacho on April 29, 2016, 02:13:01 PM
The Wheel of Time is next up for an adaptation. That should be a shitstorm!
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 18, 2016, 04:52:54 PM
This makes me want to watch the Malcolm McDowell movie version.



And this makes me want to lie down.

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Post by: nacho on May 19, 2016, 07:40:57 AM
Time After Time is actually a terrible movie. But that's okay. I'm glad to see them foolishly try and turn it into something.

Now...MacGuyver...yeah. I actually did lie down right on the floor and made low, keening animal noises for an hour.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 19, 2016, 03:00:36 PM
Time After Time is actually a terrible movie.

And a pox on you too, sir!
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Post by: nacho on May 19, 2016, 03:19:55 PM
Time After Time is actually a terrible movie.

And a pox on you too, sir!

Don't get me wrong! I love it. I watch it every couple years. I think Warner's depiction of Jack the Ripper is the best I've seen. I love McDowell.

Anyway...speaking of the great David Warner:

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Post by: nacho on July 14, 2016, 02:28:04 PM
Why, in the name of God, didn't one of you tell me that Rachel Bloom has her own show? And that it's great! Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is not only full of Bloom, it's like the spiritual successor to Flight of the Conchords.
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Post by: nacho on July 14, 2016, 03:01:57 PM
Why, in the name of God, didn't one of you tell me that Rachel Bloom has her own show? And that it's great! Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is not only full of Bloom, it's like the spiritual successor to Flight of the Conchords.

Here, just to seal the deal:

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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 14, 2016, 04:05:17 PM
I need a moment alone.
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Post by: nacho on July 14, 2016, 08:12:14 PM
I need a moment alone.

Yeah. The Rachel Bloom Effect.
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Post by: nacho on July 15, 2016, 10:20:12 AM
Wow...watching the people totally lose their shit in the penultimate episode of Alone is fascinating. We're talking, like, cry for an hour and then lapse into an incoherent rage and attack the forest.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 04, 2016, 11:54:30 AM
Script at the link... Ballsy when you think about how insane people got about culture after 9/11.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/08/03/read_billy_domineau_s_seinfeld_episode_about_9_11.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/08/03/read_billy_domineau_s_seinfeld_episode_about_9_11.html)

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This Seinfeld Episode about 9/11 Is a Model of Comedy Writing and Monumentally Bad Taste

Some ideas are so inherently offensive they should never see the light of day—showing up at a Friar’s Club Roast in blackface, say, or offering Republicans a Supreme Court nomination as a reward for nominating a fascist lunatic. But occasionally, the dial on the Bad-Taste-O-Meter spins all the way back around to zero and an idea becomes so terrible it’s actually brilliant. Comedy writer Billy Domineau pulled off that extraordinary feat Tuesday morning when he unleashed his original Seinfeld spec script, “The Twin Towers.” He announced his handiwork on Twitter:

Seinfeld aired its finale in 1998, and most television shows removed references to the World Trade Center rather than directly addressing the attacks, so a Seinfeld 9/11 episode isn’t just a bad idea but an ahistorical one. And Domineau wasn’t the first person to have it: believe it or not, more than one person has edited Seinfeld’s peppy bass riff over footage of the attacks. He’s just the first person to execute it so perfectly that all the bad taste is subsumed by graveyard humor.

“The Twin Towers,” in which Jerry, Elaine, George, and Kramer face the days immediately after 9/11 with their usual petty selfishness, would be overcome by its hopelessly offensive concept if it were just an average Seinfeld episode. But it’s a great Seinfeld episode, filled with the tics and riffs that made the show work without quite crossing the line into parody. There’s no hugging and there’s no learning, but that’s the easy part. The virtuoso stuff is how well each character’s subplot fits them, and the way Domineau pulls off the structure, story lines converging like clockwork in a finale that still manages to surprise. What’s more, it’s not a version of “The Aristocrats,” piling on the shock and disgust until things are so offensive you can’t help but laugh: the jokes and gags are all well within Seinfeld’s normal wheelhouse and would have cleared NBC’s standards and practices circa 2001. Except for the fact that, well, you know.

Domineau is a member of sketch comedy group Gentlemen Party and a freelancer for Saturday Night Live’s “Weekend Update,” according to The Comic’s Comic, which first reported on the script. On the strength of this exercise in spectacularly bad taste, with any luck he’ll soon be staffed on a show that would benefit from an arsenic injection. Download Domineau’s script or read it below:
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Post by: nacho on August 04, 2016, 01:17:49 PM
So this explains the suspicious Google Drive link that half the world is tweeting/posting/emailing without explanation!
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Post by: nacho on August 04, 2016, 01:25:03 PM
Wow! So, basically, this guy wrote an Oscar Bin Laden story! Man, I was doing this on the front page two months after the attacks!
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 24, 2016, 02:10:41 AM
This came up in a conversation tonight, Nacho. You're welcome.

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Post by: nacho on August 24, 2016, 07:30:21 AM
Yeah. After Voltron, I'm strangely excited about the MASK remake.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 24, 2016, 11:39:44 AM
I forgot how awful that theme song is.
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Post by: nacho on August 24, 2016, 12:55:23 PM
I forgot how awful that theme song is.

Um... I was just thinking how awesome it was as I stood here dancing to it!
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Post by: nacho on September 15, 2016, 08:35:22 AM
Oh, thank god, Documentary Now is back... And still awesome.
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Post by: nacho on September 19, 2016, 11:21:41 AM
Orphan Black is a terrible show, but Maslany still deserves that Emmy so, so much.

Pretty okay (and wholly unsurprising) picks last night.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on September 19, 2016, 03:13:25 PM
The older I get, the more that awards shows strike me as false, self-serving, and embarrassing.
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Post by: nacho on September 19, 2016, 03:47:03 PM
The older I get, the more that awards shows strike means false, self-serving, and embarrassing.

So this has always seemed true to me.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on September 19, 2016, 06:56:22 PM
You were ahead of the curve.
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Post by: nacho on September 20, 2016, 06:13:02 PM
Fall TV Premiere Report:

Um... The Good Place (the afterlife comedy with Ted Danson and Kirsten Bell) is shockingly watchable! Perhaps even enjoyable! Lots of laugh out loud moments.
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Post by: nacho on September 21, 2016, 08:38:12 AM
Fall premiere report:

So Michael Weatherly left the #2 spot on the highest rated drama on TV to start his own show that's about...the early days of Dr. Phil.

I gave it 10 minutes and it was screamingly, horrifically unwatchable. Almost worth watching just to see how bad it is.

Minus a million points for the distracting social media integration. So something's happening and they tell the story through social media pop-ups and memes. Crazy bad.
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Post by: nacho on September 22, 2016, 08:37:23 AM
Fall premiere report:

Designated Survivor. Keifer Sutherland plays a disgraced Secretary of HUD who's selected to sit out the State of the Union as per normal procedure. Someone blows up the Capitol and Keifer is the last man standing and, so, the new POTUS.

Meanwhile,his perfect family is having first world problems, the people who staged the attack are scary and mysterious, Maggie Q is a Fed at the scene of the crime who, the last of the joint chiefs is coup-crazy, and shit's pretty awful.

It's quite good! The way they handle the attack is well done. We sort of see it as we would see it -- from glimpses of the TV, on the DC skyline as people gather and stare at the plume of smoke. Very 9/11-esque. A bigger, badder version of the smoke plume from the Pentagon that we all stared at in horror.

Keifer is playing a mousy intellectual who can barely control a room, or keep his lunch down. The stage is quickly set that whoever is responsible for this attack isn't finished. That this is only the beginning. The season trailer at the end of episode one shows us plenty of action interspersed with troubled family interludes that are indistinguishable from any other show.

Prediction: I can't see this surviving one season unless the bad guy is actually an immortal Bond villain who always manages to escape in the final reel. Also, I'm already tired of the family problems and the pilot only devoted about three minutes of screentime to that subplot.
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Post by: nacho on September 23, 2016, 10:05:18 AM
Fall Premiere Report:

Lethal Weapon.

This is a strange one. Somehow, they've rebooted this as if the original never existed. It almost feels like the original is so old, so long ago, that their audience just isn't aware of it. There's an odd mix of updated sensibilities here and shot-by-shot, word-by-word recreated scenes.

This fascination factor kept me watching the pilot episode but, beneath the very thin surface, there's absolutely nothing here worth spending time on. I won't bother with the next episode.
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Post by: nacho on September 23, 2016, 10:41:28 AM
Fall Premiere Report:

Pitch. This is all about black empowerment as long as the black person in question comes from a well off middle class suburban family with Denzel as the perfect father and is carefully managed and handled by beautiful blonde white people.

Insulting. At best.
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Post by: nacho on September 24, 2016, 09:00:16 AM
Fall Premier Report:

MacGyver. So instead of making him a likable guy who can low tech his way out of everything,  he's a slick, modern James Bond style spy with a quirky IMF team who relies on high tech wizardry.

This... Is a terrible mistake. It's like a mad scientist revived the old series from the dead and it went insane and started killing villagers.
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Post by: nacho on September 24, 2016, 09:12:22 AM
Fall Premier Report :

The Exorcist. This is a straight up adaptation of the original done by someone who didn't understand it and wanted a painfully clear background and explanation for all the characters. Meanwhile, the studio clearly said  "you gotta lay off all the stuff with the girl."
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Post by: RottingCorpse on September 26, 2016, 04:09:22 PM
Fall Premier Report :

The Exorcist. This is a straight up adaptation of the original done by someone who didn't understand it and wanted a painfully clear background and explanation for all the characters. Meanwhile, the studio clearly said  "you gotta lay off all the stuff with the girl."

Interesting. The horror world seems to love it.
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Post by: nacho on September 26, 2016, 04:30:54 PM
The "horror world" also loves The Walking Dead franchise and American Horror Story. Which, honestly, you and I could recreate to a tee in your basement.
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Post by: nacho on September 28, 2016, 08:38:57 AM
Fall Premiere Report:

Aftermath. SyFy's new low budget post apocalypse show to pair up with the unwatchable Z Nation. Poorly scripted, poorly acted, and with mistakes not even a film student would make, this is an almost cringeworthy story of a family escaping the Biblical End of Days in Washington state. I'll give it a few episodes solely because I'm a post apocalypse geek but, for rational, thinking people...this should be avoided at all costs.
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Post by: nacho on September 30, 2016, 11:10:01 AM
Fall Premiere Check-in!

So the only two watchable new shows so far are The Good Life and Designated Survivor.

The former is cute but pretty much just hitting one note. Episode two was dull, episode three was a bit more fun.

Designated Survivor, two episodes in, is still okay. Warning: I'm a Natascha McElhone AND a Maggie Q apologist.
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Post by: Sirharles on October 03, 2016, 01:31:28 PM
Luke Cage--

I haven't finished the season yet but 9 episodes in and I like it...a lot.  The tone and storytelling are very black-centric, which if you read anything about it beforehand is kind of a "duh".  You delve more into black culture than any other crime drama out there.  Which is refreshing.  And more importantly it's not in your face.  It just exists, which I think plays perfectly.  It doesn't even play the race card.  It just says we are black and this is our history and culture here in Harlem.  No mention of negativity towards whites or cops.  Although it should be noted that every cop car has a black cop and a white cop.  I have no idea how accurate that is, but I think in our age of #blacklivesmatter is interesting.

It has a slow build to it, the same that Jessica Jones had.  Which is a nice break from the "in your face monster of the week" that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has.  It took me a couple of episodes to get past that actually.  I'm so used to "show me their powers and backstory NOW".  But once I did, I have greatly enjoyed the show.
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Post by: nacho on October 03, 2016, 02:54:29 PM
Been actively avoiding it... Maybe I'll give it a go.
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Post by: nacho on October 06, 2016, 08:54:16 AM
Things that are annoying me about Designated Survivor:

The dueling designated survivors. This is ridiculous, plain and simple. if Virginia Madsen takes over, it'll be a coup as serious as the evil general taking over. Right now they're handling this correctly -- she's saying she'll wait till the election in 2 years. So that means she'll just be a weird annoyance for the next two seasons? Some silly backroom drama to further splinter the plot?

The evil adviser/chief of staff. So everyone knows he's evil, but nobody seems worried because "that's DC!" If it really were DC, that guy would have been fired about a dozen times.

"The Red Line's not running today." How nice to see Metro's problems actually become a part of prime time TV. Unfortunately, this is presented as a problem that "a chief of staff should know about." Well... It's actually a daily problem, not a weird one off occurrence, and we all have to find alternative ways to get to work -- from the janitor to the senior staff for POTUS.

The video. Keifer's inexplicable belief that there's some Other Power behind the attacks even though he has all his experts saying otherwise AND a video from a terrorist group claiming responsibility. Yes, of course, we, the audience, know that there's some Other Power behind the attacks... But you literally have to be an audience member watching to know that. Keifer wouldn't be putting two and two together like he does because he doesn't have the same information we do.

The information we have. Maggie Q breaks the rules again and again...except to tell someone around POTUS what she's suspecting. Which is sort of a corollary to the above point, but also frustrating and dumb.

The Fed's response in general. "We have 50 agents on this!" The Capitol was destroyed, along with all of Congress and the president, by forces unknown, and you just assign 50 agents? They assigned several hundred agents to take down petty New York bank robber Al Nussbaum. Maybe the president wasn't popular.

The firing. So Keifer wasn't actually fired... It hadn't taken effect yet. Which means there wouldn't be much about it in the system to leak. However, because it leaked, that makes me think he was officially fired, in which case there is a touch of a constitutional crisis that should be a bit more clearly addressed instead of inserted as the problem du jour for the episode and then quickly brushed over. (PS: If it were official, then he wouldn't have been the designated survivor.)

Where are the States? We see one governor acting out against the President. While this is a very real possibility if the federal government is decapitated, what's supposed to happen is an emergency electoral election to fill congress. The state legislatures would organize and appoint representatives by special election. These elections can't be stopped short of martial law being declared. While it would take a while to pull this off (so, right now, it makes sense for the show not to have a Congress), this is something that the show will have to face in very short order. It's odd that it's not being discussed. It's even odder that what happens once that Congress is organized isn't being discussed -- the new Speaker would, essentially, outrank Keifer. And THAT is the weird Constitutional battle the show is looking for, not Madsen (though chances are she'd get that job anyway). So...perhaps they're holding out for that, but then we have a Constitutional Drama and not a Regular Drama.



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Post by: nacho on October 12, 2016, 11:09:40 PM
Fall Premier Report:

Channel Zero. Syfy's "horror anthology" is a feeble attempt to copycat Black Mirror.

But you,  senator, are no Black Mirror.
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Post by: nacho on October 12, 2016, 11:20:10 PM
Suddenly,  Designated Survivor is about Maggie Q in a tight top and slick skirt. So that only took three episodes.
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Post by: nacho on October 15, 2016, 10:03:29 AM
Fall Premiere Report:

Falling Water. Three people are having similar dreams and being led into a mystery. A corporate CEO believes that the dreams represent communication -- and a warning -- from beyond (or...something).

Sounds dumb but is actually very good. Well acted, tight writing, and still interesting two episodes in.
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Post by: nacho on October 21, 2016, 06:23:32 PM
Fall TV Premiere report:

Wolf Creek.

RC, you said that the horror world was all about the terrible Exorcist. If they were *real* horror people, they would be watching this amazing adaptation of a bad horror movie. Well worth it. Shocking, gripping, 197% better than the movie franchise.
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Post by: nacho on October 26, 2016, 07:39:46 AM
Fall Premiere Report:

Mars.

Okay, so this is actually an infomercial for SpaceX and Elon Musk...and it doesn't hide that. Each episode features interviews with Musk and others involved in getting us to Mars. And, yet...it kind of works. There's a certain earnestness to those people that feels just fine because they aren't asking us to invest they're telling us that they have billions and here's their plan, and they're very open about how many times they've fucked up and why. The infomercial segments are actually fascinating.

Meanwhile, there's an actual story going on. It's 2033 and a crew of the best and brightest are piloting super-ship Daedalus to a pre-built hab complex on Mars. It's a one-way trip for them, with the idea that more people will follow after 20 years. The infomercial segments go into great detail about how the hab will be made, which saves the narrative element of the show from having to over-explain. Weirdly. I don't know how that works, but it does!

So, anyway...something goes wrong. The rocket lands 75 kilometers away from the hab. The commander is a fucking tool who's hurt himself but is lying about it. They have two days to live and no way they can get to the hab so they shelter in a temporary Russian test base... And drama unfolds!

So far so good.
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Post by: nacho on October 27, 2016, 07:38:29 AM
Fall Premier Report:

Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.

The famously un-adaptable Douglas Adams book is...completely un-adaptable. I had to quit this one after 15 excruciating minutes. Actual squirm in my chair excruciating. Sad.
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Post by: nacho on October 27, 2016, 02:07:03 PM
Suddenly,  Designated Survivor is about Maggie Q in a tight top and slick skirt. So that only took three episodes.

1) He can't appoint a VP without a Congress
2) Everyone should be talking more about Congress
3) Clumsiest copying of Manchurian Candidate ever
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Post by: nacho on November 05, 2016, 05:02:07 PM
Wolf Creek continues to be a damned fine adaptation. The only shortcoming is our Last Girl main star who's supposed to be American and can't do an American accent to save her life... And doing an American accent is, like, Acting 101, right? British and Aussie children learn how to do that in grade school.
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Post by: nacho on November 11, 2016, 08:52:45 AM
Oh...my...god...

Hunted.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunted_(2015_TV_series)

So ordinary citizens go on the run and have to survive 28 days to win a cash prize. Simple enough...except they're in the UK, which is easily the most monitored population on Earth these days.

Hunting them is a team of spies and cops and they have the full powers of state behind them. One guy who managed to survive two weeks pissed off the hunters so much that they put out a radio announcement offering a reward for his capture and a wanted poster in the newspaper. Sure, they said it was part of a TV show so people didn't try and kill him or beat him up, but the effect was the same.

Trying to do that with another fugitive backfired, though -- people harbored her. But then the hunters, on her trail, viciously interrogated those people until they broke down.

The captures are full on police action captures, broken down and explained to us.

No film crew. Each fugitive has a companion with them doing the filming, and the companion is technically on the run as well.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 11, 2016, 10:06:49 AM
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on November 11, 2016, 11:45:35 AM
Yeah, pretty much.
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Post by: nacho on December 01, 2016, 08:32:44 AM
I love Maggie Q trying to surreptitiously follow people on Designated Survivor.

I think I'd be like: "Pssst. Is Maggie Q following us? Wow. This is awesome."
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Post by: Sirharles on January 09, 2017, 11:24:07 AM
Emerald City

A modern re-telling of Wizard of Oz.  Except it's not, but it is.  It's weird.  Admittedly the only story of Wizard of Oz that I remember is the original movie, and of course Michael Jackson's version...but let's not talk about that.  So that being said, if there is a book, or play, or illustrated comic about it I'm not aware of it.

First episode in and you've got Dorothy coming to Oz in a cop car via tornado which is how she gets her cop dog german shepard.  "Toto" means dog in native Oz apparently.  So a highly trained dog now responds to a name it's never heard before...le sigh.  And the cop car has very little in the way of supplies.  I thought all cop cars now had a trunk full of machine guns, vests, ammo, etc.  Which would have been awesome.  Dorothy kitted out like Rambo.  But apparently this one only has a 9mm one clip and the first aid kit you'd find in the bathroom of a truck stop. 

To avoid spoilers I won't say more, but suffice to say it doesn't follow what I remember from the movie except in the most basic terms.  Which could be good.  It's weird, and yet I want to watch more.
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Post by: nacho on January 09, 2017, 11:54:10 AM
For the record, the only link Emerald City has to any of the Oz canon is: "Dorothy Gale is transported to Oz and has an adventure." They're intending this as a "true reboot" of the Wizard of Oz. Sigh.

So I'm going into this (haven't had the time to watch it yet) with the idea that it's a standalone show with no background. It's getting ruthlessly panned by the geek-o-sphere, though.
 

Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on January 10, 2017, 07:19:02 AM
Emerald City

A modern re-telling of Wizard of Oz.  Except it's not, but it is.  It's weird.  Admittedly the only story of Wizard of Oz that I remember is the original movie, and of course Michael Jackson's version...but let's not talk about that.  So that being said, if there is a book, or play, or illustrated comic about it I'm not aware of it.

First episode in and you've got Dorothy coming to Oz in a cop car via tornado which is how she gets her cop dog german shepard.  "Toto" means dog in native Oz apparently.  So a highly trained dog now responds to a name it's never heard before...le sigh.  And the cop car has very little in the way of supplies.  I thought all cop cars now had a trunk full of machine guns, vests, ammo, etc.  Which would have been awesome.  Dorothy kitted out like Rambo.  But apparently this one only has a 9mm one clip and the first aid kit you'd find in the bathroom of a truck stop. 

To avoid spoilers I won't say more, but suffice to say it doesn't follow what I remember from the movie except in the most basic terms.  Which could be good.  It's weird, and yet I want to watch more.

Whew... So... It's no worse than the other attempts to reboot Oz. In fact, it's very much like them with the darker Oz motif, the attempt to create a more sinister Wizard, and delving into the weird politics of Oz (which are surprisingly complicated even in the books).

But, yes, the police car with no supplies is odd. And there's also another problem -- it's informed more by Game of Thrones than Oz. They're using the Wizard of Oz as a point of familiarity so they can make GoT without having to write the backstory or pay attention to the narrative. I'm always worries when these shows try to be too much like each other (which may be something that, in hindsight, Westworld had going for it -- it wasn't trying to be something else.)

Anyway...I do not want to watch more!
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Post by: nacho on January 16, 2017, 10:46:58 AM
The Young Pope.

Amazing, actually. But also very challenging. They've been playing it very close to the vest -- is it a satire? Is it a commentary? Is Jude Law actually Satan? We don't know! (Well, we do, sort of, because  it aired a year ago in the UK.)

Jude Law is a young American pope who wants to turn Catholicism on its head. Episode one sets the stage rather well -- he's dreaming of naked girls and telling people to jack off and fuck more while he goes through his first days of being Pope. The internal (and external) politics of the Vatican are lampooned wildly. The audience has about a million questions.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: Sirharles on January 16, 2017, 11:56:26 AM
Anyway...I do not want to watch more!

Removed from the first episode by a week and now I'm "I'll work on photos while Mrs. Sirharles watches this".  If she wanted to.
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Post by: nacho on March 11, 2017, 10:22:15 AM
Time After Time.

So the pilot episode is just a riff on the movie...which is fine. Without Warner and McDowell, we kind of lose all the pathos and power of the two main characters...but...they do a fine job for 2017 primetime. The guy playing Wells has the easiest role -- he's doing his best mousy McDowell and that's easy enough. Stevenson suffers the most. The stalking calm of David Warner is replaced with a pretty young guy who's like every update of Victorian characters everywhere -- Elementary, Sherlock, etc.

Steenburgen is replaced by the curator of the Wells exhibit, which is a much more sensible way to do things instead of having them try to scam money from the bank (Stevenson just pawns all his stuff).

So! The chase is on... And with the time machine at the center of it (which anyone can use but it'll always return to Wells as long as he has the key), there are some pretty good possibilities here.

There were actually several funny and cute moments throughout. Somehow, and I can't believe I'm saying this, they've captured the movie's basic charm.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on March 20, 2017, 07:19:31 PM
Time After Time.

"How did he know we'd be in 2017?" Asks the time traveler who invited a time machine with an infinite power source that anyone can use.

That said, the show is still going strong. I'm debating starting a new thread, but they have the 12 Monkeys-style Illuminati conspiracy thing going on which, frankly, is exhausting at this point. If I want complicated time mechanics controlled by a secret society, I'd watch...Timeless! Or 12 Monkeys!

My complaint with 12 Monkeys is the same as Timeless -- you have a time machine, you have interesting characters. Let's stop copying 12 Monkeys and just have a time travel show!
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 02, 2017, 09:44:42 AM
Wow... Time After Time got grudge canceled. Off the air immediately and remaining episodes not being aired.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 20, 2017, 06:00:42 PM
Can we talk about the genius of Ric & Morty? My L.A. friends forced me to watch the first four episodes and I can't believe how great it is. What's great is that it's not only genius satire, It's actually amazingly crafted inter-dimensional sci-fi. It respects the rules of time travel/alternate dimensions that it's ruthlessly skewering.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on April 21, 2017, 08:44:31 AM
I...Haven't watched it! But now I will.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: RottingCorpse on April 21, 2017, 11:33:58 AM
The pilot is meh, so start with Episode 2. It's the best Doctor Who parody you'll ever watch.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on May 16, 2017, 07:33:41 AM
So, yeah, forget about Discovery. Let's just go in this direction instead!

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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 18, 2017, 10:40:10 AM
That's gonna be okay, I think.

Not to keep harping on Rick and Morty, but it seems to be the sci-for parodies are now better than the shows they're aping.  Rock and Morty is classic Doctor Who turned on its ear. This is Star Trek by way of galaxy quest.

I read an interesting piece today about how all our future sci-go is PA stuff these days. There's not a whole lot of hopeful visions of the future in "serious" sci-go. This is a reflection of our world culture, I get that. It just seems the comedies get future sci-if in the way the more serious shows don't.

Then again, we're all doomed, right? So maybe the downer PA sci-if has it correct.
Title: Re: Not Worth a Thread: TV Edition
Post by: nacho on May 18, 2017, 11:11:27 AM
I would debate that article. Could you link it?

But, unread, I'd say that our sci-fi isn't dominated by PA stuff...it's just that the PA stuff is the most popular!

Non-PA sci-fi for 2017: Timeless, Doctor Who, American Gods, Star Trek Discovery, Twin Peaks, Grimm, Sleepy Hollow, Orphan Black, Voltron, The Magicians, The Expanse, Humans, The Good Place, The Orville, Agents of Shield, Powerless, Legion, Gotham, etc....

PA sci-fi for 2017: TWD, FTWD, Preacher, iZombie (arguably), The 100, The Leftovers, The Colony.

With Preacher, iZombie, The 100, The Leftovers, and The Colony all adhering to a theme of renewal, salvation, or hope.

In fact, the only true PA sci-fi currently airing is TWD and family.
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Post by: nacho on May 18, 2017, 11:20:17 AM
Oh, I guess Into the Badlands is PA sci-fi...but it's so weird and the apocalypse so far removed and ignored in the script that it doesn't quite matter.

And Handmaid's Tale, of course. Though that is more of a political think-piece a la V for Vendetta.

I'd argue that PA sci-fi is, in fact, embracing a dystopian view of the modern world. i.e., doing what sci-fi does best and mirroring (or...Black Mirroring, ha ha) our modern day social fuckery.

In the 60s, utopian idealism reigned the minds of the genre's target audience. In the late 70s and 80s, nuclear war and general fallout from impending global conflict ruled the minds of the genre's target audience. In the 1990s, exploration and computer wizardry ruled the minds of the target audience. In the 2000s, nostalgia walked hand-in-hand with lazy "re-introductions" to previously profitable wells. Now the target audience is disengaged, cynical, and distrustful. Thus, Handmaid's Tale, as a great example of the shifting sands of sci-fi, moves from "Crazy Shit set 500 Years From Now," to "Sometime Next Week."

(By the way, as I wrote that comment, I was reminded -- yet again -- about how Max Headroom was so ahead of its time...)
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 18, 2017, 11:58:45 AM
To be fair, the article is four years old, but it's still pertinent.

http://entertainment.time.com/2013/03/29/where-are-our-bright-science-fiction-futures/
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Post by: nacho on May 18, 2017, 01:39:37 PM
That four years makes all the difference, though. Four years ago we had the poorly-received Falling Skies, The 100 had been announced, other failed shows like Dominion and Defiance looked like they would survive, but ultimately didn't.  TWD was still a juggernaut, and so on.

Many of the high brow PA shows that were airing or about to air four years ago ended up being one-season flops. And even the almighty TWD is falling on hard times today versus four years ago when Fear was announced and it looked like TWD was poised to basically take over AMC. And Fear has turned out to be a confused, hot mess that exists only due to momentum from the parent show (which may not reach beyond 2018 at the current rate).

So I stand by my argument.

 
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Post by: RottingCorpse on June 07, 2017, 04:18:50 PM
I know we don't have a Rick & Morty thread (and should), but this makes me so stoked for season 3.