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Title: Doctor Who: NuWho Thread
Post by: nacho on November 20, 2013, 10:53:03 AM
Capaldi!


I am so looking forward to an older Doctor. No fucking romance. Maybe Clara will die horribly. The below theory from Bleeding Cool follows on from whatever is going to happen here with the 50th... And I love the hint that we're going to be more like the Hinchcliffe era. In my opinion, that was the best era of Doctor Who. The show suddenly became this creepy, gothic, horror show that was so scary they had to do a minor soft reboot and lighten things up a bit.

Either way, we'll get a taste of Capaldi at Christmas (and it's rumored we may see him either during Day of the Doctor or playing himself playing the Doctor at the end of An Adventure in Space and Time), and then we'll have to wait till the middle of 2014 to really get into it.

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Bleeding Cool's taken what we already know and made some educated guesses about the next season. First, the math on the regenerations is all confused now. Steven Moffat's still calling Capaldi's soon-to-be Doctor the 12th Doctor, but John Hurt's character is a regeneration. Which would make Capaldi the 13th regeneration and, theoretically, the "last." But now rumors are saying that Capaldi's actually going to be playing the result of what happens when the Doctor goes on past twelve regenerations, aided by the Sisters of Karn.

For Capaldi's first season, there's rumors of Frank Cottrell Boyce writing a two-episode Dalek story that'll be directed by Ben Wheatley. The whole tone for the season is said to be based on the gothic style Philip Hinchcliffe brought to the classic series when he produced it. [Bleeding Cool]
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: nacho on November 23, 2013, 05:54:30 PM
How I love our first glimpse of Capaldi's Doctor in Day of the Doctor:

(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/capaldisfirst.gif)

And...he's keeping his natural accent, thank god. Is fandom ready for an angry, possibly villainous Scottish Doctor?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: nacho on November 25, 2013, 12:10:01 PM
I really hope these keep coming... Another Malcom mash-up:

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: nacho on December 09, 2013, 05:07:56 PM
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Twelfth Doctor. No Waiting. Steven Moffat confirms Peter Capaldi's first season won't be split in half — the whole thing will air in one uninterrupted run, starting in August 2014.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 10, 2013, 11:31:31 AM
From Blastr:

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Peter Jackson has confirmed he’s officially been in talks to direct an episode of Doctor Who.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: nacho on December 10, 2013, 11:34:40 AM
He's officially been in talks to direct for 4 years!

He's a huge fan but has never had the time. You'll get plenty of him in the "Five-Ish Doctors" anniversary special, which you'll get to view with me (sitting on my lap) after Day of the Doctor.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: nacho on December 27, 2013, 04:06:02 PM
Season 34 filming begins after New Year's...so I imagine it won't be long till we see Capaldi's costume. Always a weirdly giddy moment for the uber-fans.

Until then... The much-maligned regeneration scene!

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: nacho on January 04, 2014, 12:45:26 PM
Moving Missing Episode rumors to this thread!

So -- Missing Episodes 2014!

It has now been confirmed by several involved that a commentary track for Marco Polo was completed in November. Which means, obviously, Marco Polo is on the slate. Not surprising at this point.

We also have a report on the weight of missing episodes recovered in Africa -- 3 tons. Though not all of that is Doctor Who, and it is still being painfully cataloged and restored, we're still at where we left off in the season 33 thread -- years away from knowing what could actually be recovered from the old prints.



Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: nacho on January 07, 2014, 11:33:45 AM
Filming has started! Here they are on set... Not a costume reveal, sadly. He's still in 11's outfit from Time of the Doctor. And, seeing it on Capaldi, I wouldn't mind if they kept that...

http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/5457302-high_res-doctor-who.jpeg
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: nacho on January 07, 2014, 01:52:53 PM
Confirmed: a 90 minute 8th Doctor special, "sometime in 2014." Moffatt's long said that he won't run Doctors concurrently (in response to people screaming for lost Hartnell episode redos with the AiTaS cast). Now he says he's doing this because "it was planned all along for the 50th." Um... Okay. Either way, 8th Doctor fanwank will be great for the show. And I'd love a Capaldi cameo!

We're also getting the master and the Daleks back (duh), and rumors of Draconians and more Zygons (hopefully not).
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: nacho on January 08, 2014, 02:12:07 PM
Tor's long been bemoaning the problems with NewWho... Here's another great article from them, this time focusing on River Song (as a prime example of the problem):

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/01/the-problem-with-river-song-doctor-who
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 "Hoards...of...fucking...robots!"
Post by: nacho on January 09, 2014, 10:54:50 AM
I like to hear this... A die-hard classic Who fan playing a NewWho Doctor is vital, I think.

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"Now we're going to give her a Doctor who's not like that at all [The Eleventh Doctor], who's a much older, fiercer, madder, less reliable Doctor, who leads her a merry dance. And she's trying to keep him a secret and she's now working in a school..."
On The Twelfth Doctor's character, Moffat comments that he will be more akin to Tom Baker and Christophe Eccleston,  being "mad and dangerous and difficult" and not a "quirky young man" like Matt Smith and David Tennant.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on January 14, 2014, 08:36:41 AM
Moffatt's so evil... Tons of set pics released today from the first episode. Still no outfit reveal! Instead, it's Capaldi in his pajamas riding a horse through the streets of Victorian London.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on January 19, 2014, 11:08:22 AM
We're slowly getting leaks about the non-missing episodes recovered in the mysterious cache:

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Enemy Of The World 6. Two Ambassadors eps, Marinus 6, Krotons 3.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on January 25, 2014, 08:50:41 PM
Missing episode gnues:

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Currently the BBC are preparing episodes of Doctor Who for online release with no word to what or where exactly.

The Space Pirates 3 and 5 have been found in the hands of a private collector while at least one of the alleged three copies of Marco Polo resided in private hands as well.

Power of the Daleks is recovered but incomplete in parts and with some extensive but recoverable damage, The Highlanders however is in bad shape.

It's pretty much a given now that all of the 2nd Doctor's stories have been recovered in some shape or form, but the condition may be so poor on some they're as good as gone.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on January 27, 2014, 03:06:40 PM
Outfit reveal!

21st Century Pertwee:


http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/capaldi.jpg
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on January 27, 2014, 11:12:03 PM
We don't need a comparison shot of Pertwee and Capaldi...but I like seeing them together.

(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/capaldipertwee.jpg)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on January 28, 2014, 08:17:34 AM
The trousers look better on the set photos. I'm really hoping for a dark and brooding Doctor, but all the set photos so far are a fucking weepy, huggy Clara clinging to him.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on February 03, 2014, 03:27:53 PM
Good news, RC -- the 12th Doctor battles Jack the Ripper in the opening episode.

Also, a Matt Smith cameo is confirmed for the first episode (as a voiceover, apparently).
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 03, 2014, 05:05:45 PM
Good news, RC -- the 12th Doctor battles Jack the Ripper in the opening episode.


Nice....
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on February 04, 2014, 08:05:02 AM
Hopeful news about a "darker" Doctor...and the development of High Rise!

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What kind of Doctor will Peter Capaldi portray on the next season of Doctor Who? In our exclusive interview with director Ben Wheatley, we learned a whole lot about what classic influences this new Doctor will be channeling. Plus find out about Wheatley's brilliant plans for the movie of J.G. Ballard's High Rise.

Wheatley, whose completely mental black-and-white 17th century psychedelic horror movie A Field in England is being released in the States this week (more on that later) took a little time to talk about two very exciting projects he's currently working on. One being the very first two Peter Capaldi Doctor Who episodes, and the other being his movie adaptation of High Rise. Which he's chosen to set in the time that the original book was published: 1975.

Here's what he told us about those two projects:

What's it like working with an actor who is basically trying to discover the mannerisms that will become his calling cards for the rest of his career as a Time Lord?

Ben Wheatley: With someone like Capaldi, he's a massive Who fan. He knows Who inside out. And everything he does is very, carefully planned and thought about. I remember when they first started talking to me about doing it, and I was very nervous for just those reasons. How do you shape this performance?

But then when I heard who was going to do it — when they told me it was Capaldi, [I thought] that's not really a problem. He's so good. I was relieved, pretty much. It would have been a very different situation if it had been another kind of Matt Smith character. A guy who you don't know. Molded from the start. But with Capaldi, you look at his career and you look at his performances they are all so brilliant, and all so different as well. It was a lucky break for me, I think that.

It was something I sought out. I got my agent to kind of badger them about doing, because I was a fan as a kid. But also because my kid was a fan of the show and I wanted to make something that he could see, for a change. That was it. And it's been very geeky indeed. Going into the TARDIS, I held the Sonic Screwdriver the other day, and that was a particular thrill. All sorts of stuff. Also stuff I can't talk about, that's been very, very exciting for me.

I think it's exciting to get an actor with such gravitas when he's on screen. Sure he's being silly but he's still kind of a little scary. And it's fun to read that he was getting paired up with you, especially when you read people on the internet worried about you making the series too dark. But why not make it a little darker? There's always been a little darkness in the Time Lord.

Oh yeah, Doctor Who is pretty dark, I think. Generally it's dark, it's always been dark. Even in the more modern ones. If you look at the Tom Baker stuff, it's especially dark. When he leaves Leela — who's a very beloved assistant — he just laughs after it. There's none of the [breaking down and crying]. He just laughs, and "on to the next one," you know. It's a bonkers show. It's a monster. To have a unity that runs eight years [of the new series]… it's pretty crazy. They've done everything, they've tried all sorts of stuff. It seems to me the episodes that we're doing now seem more like classic Who. We're going back to that style. But you'll have to wait and see.

I think it's exciting that you're going from psychedelic horror, to Doctor Who. It should be very interesting

And High Rise is next. Yeah, J.G. Ballard's High Rise.

That's a pretty dark book.

Yeah man. I'll be going straight back to the dark shit.

Are you filming right now or still working on the script?

No, no we're filming. That's happening. That should be announced this week, about stuff that's going on with it.

Now was this the version that's going to be a deviation from the original book? Will it take place after everything goes to hell?

No that was the last lot, when they tried to make it a few years ago. We've gone back and Amy [Jump]'s written a script that's very close to the book. It's set in 1975.

So are you playing around with a lot of retro science-fiction looks?

Yeah, well, I mean it's going to look like the 70s. It's going to be very styled in that way. We're looking at the Ridley Scott adverts of that period. It's going to be modern in a way that the 70s looked. In a way that, "I don't know what the future looks like anymore," which is quite funny. We're already in Buck Rogers land now. Aren't we? We've all got phones, it's not that exciting. But back then they had a real idea of what the future was going to be like, and it was much more stylish.

Stay tuned for more from Ben Wheatley this week, when we discuss getting science, magic, and magic mushrooms in the 17th century a la A Field In England (which side note, will be in theaters and on VOD February 7th)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on February 11, 2014, 11:38:49 AM
I love things like this:

http://www.cultbox.co.uk/features/countdowns/9163-5-doctor-who-firsts-in-the-classic-series

Everything you think is new in NewWho has been done before...right down to "Doctor Who?"

Not mentioned (in terms of groundbreaking seasonal arcs) is the Key to Time season... Which, more so than Trial of a Timelord, is just a cracking great season. It's the perfect synthesis of old-school, stand-alone journeyman sci-fi and a running seasonal arc.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on February 12, 2014, 11:17:40 AM
Missing episodes update!

We are two weeks away from the 50th anniversary of the airing of Marco Polo, the rumored other missing episode.

Though, now, it looks like the Beeb is planning an announcement for Easter.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 17, 2014, 10:55:00 PM
"You owe me 20 quid."

http://www.cultbox.co.uk/news/headlines/9200-spaced-actor-joins-doctor-who-series-8 (http://www.cultbox.co.uk/news/headlines/9200-spaced-actor-joins-doctor-who-series-8)

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'Spaced' actor joins 'Doctor Who' Series 8

Michael Smiley will guest star in the new series of Doctor Who.

The comic and actor is reportedly playing a character named Colonel Blue in Episode 2, written by Phil Ford ('The Waters of Mars', The Sarah Jane Adventures) and directed by Ben Wheatley (Sightseers).

Smiley previously appeared in Kill List and A Field in England, also directed by Wheatley, and played bicycle-riding raver Tyres O'Flaherty in Channel 4's Spaced.

Last year he appeared as Reverend Green in The World's End. Other roles include Luther, Ripper Street and Black Mirror.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on February 18, 2014, 07:37:48 AM
I think he's the only Spaced actor to not have been on NewWho yet!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on February 24, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
So we are getting a second companion...


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Steven Moffat’s statement on the casting goes like this:

For the fourth time in Doctor Who history, Coal Hill School is coming to the aid of the TARDIS. In 1963 teachers Ian Chesterton and Barbara Wright accompanied the First Doctor. These days it’s the turn of Jenna Coleman as Clara Oswald. And very soon now, Sam Anderson as Danny Pink will be entering the world of the Doctor. But how and why? Answers are coming later this year in Peter Capaldi’s first series of Doctor Who!

Whereas Anderson himself says:

I was so excited to join Doctor Who I wanted to jump and click my heels, but I was scared I might not come down before filming started! It’s a quintessential part of British culture and I can’t believe I’m part of it. It’s an honour to be able to work alongside Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman and I can’t wait to show people how my character becomes involved with such a fantastic duo!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 24, 2014, 03:50:54 PM
Wow, they really are rebooting it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on February 24, 2014, 04:14:39 PM
Wow, they really are rebooting it.

By having two companions? That's standard for classic Who. Which I appreciate... All reaching back to classic Who at this point is welcome.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on February 24, 2014, 11:55:40 PM
When's the new season start again? How many times have you answered this?

EDIT:

August? That long?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on February 25, 2014, 08:25:39 AM
When's the new season start again? How many times have you answered this?

EDIT:

August? That long?


Yeah. Because the show's a sell-out and obsessively lines itself up with each year's Christmas episode.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on March 10, 2014, 01:58:49 PM
Today's rumor (coming from 7th Doctor Sylvester McCoy) is that The Master returns this season...played by a new actor who we would recognize as "someone very scary."

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on March 12, 2014, 11:52:38 AM
Today's rumor (coming from 7th Doctor Sylvester McCoy) is that The Master returns this season...played by a new actor who we would recognize as "someone very scary."



Please be Christopher Lee.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on March 12, 2014, 11:57:26 AM
Today's rumor (coming from 7th Doctor Sylvester McCoy) is that The Master returns this season...played by a new actor who we would recognize as "someone very scary."


Please be Christopher Lee.

That would be so insanely perfect.

And, since this is Doctor Who, nothing's impossible!

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on March 12, 2014, 12:08:43 PM
I've love to see Malcolm Tucker... I mean, Capaldi's Doctor Who match up against Christoper Lee's Count Dracula.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on March 13, 2014, 11:23:49 AM
Hmmm... So McGann tweeted a picture of himself as the 8th Doctor on set. (Rumors of a multi-Doctor story have been circulating for a while now.)

Internet had a minor squee...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on March 13, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
After 'Night of the Doctor,' doesn't it make sense for him to come back? You have all sorts of 8th doctor adventures to fill in.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on March 13, 2014, 11:32:14 AM
Everyone wants him back. Almost as loudly as they want David Bradley & Co. to redo the missing episodes, 21st-century style.

I think we'll certainly see lots of 8th Doctor stuff this year. If not a multi-Doctor adventure, then a web-series.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on March 13, 2014, 12:18:38 PM
But what about Christopher Lee?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on March 19, 2014, 11:55:18 AM
Looks like we'll be seeing Tegan again (a companion from the 5th Doctor's era). She's sort of the logical choice for a big comeback  now that Lis Sladen is dead. The poor man's Sarah Jane!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on April 14, 2014, 11:09:31 AM
Oh my god... Season 34 sounds terrible:

http://doctorwhoworldwide.com/2014/04/14/contains-spoilers-everything-we-know-about-series-8/

I hate to see the Coal Hill School mention, and storylines ripped from early BTVS...

That said... Ice Warriors! The Master (as a seasonal arc Big Bad)!

Looks like they're going to play with us, as well:

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The Master will return. With Gallifrey saved, so was The Master. While we have more exact details as to his return it ties into spoilers printed previously for The Time of the Doctor. The Master will exist in our universe again and whether he is a help or a hinderance to the Doctor’s quest for Gallifrey will be a matter of debate but become clear by the end of the series. Damien Molony, currently starring in Ripper Street, has been linked to the role, yet John Simm has previously stated his desire to potentially return to the role as well and Samuel Anderson’s Danny Pink is “not all he seems” which may link in.

(Fandom has pretty much assumed that Danny Pink is really the Master from the moment the character was announced...)

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on April 18, 2014, 04:43:19 PM
Missing episodes update! The "omnirumor" has long insisted that we're going to get some sort of announcement from the beeb "around Easter."

So maybe we'll have news on Monday? Web of Fear (the higher profile of the two serials recovered last year) ships in region one on April 22nd...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on April 22, 2014, 08:35:22 AM
Web of Fear day! My copy arrives tomorrow. No news on other missing episodes...

I posted this in the last thread, but the trailer is making the rounds again. I love the attempt to modernize the episode. I hope we do find more of the Troughton collection... He's the Doctor that all the fogies say was the most influential for fandom, and he had such a hard road as the first replacement Doctor... In terms of informing how future Doctors behaved, he certainly is influential. There's a lot of him in the 5th and 11th Doctors, and a bit of him in the 7th and 10th. With most of his episodes missing, he kind of falls by the wayside these days, well eclipsed by his successors. But, slowly, hopefully, we'll get to meet Troughton again....45-50 years later...

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on April 24, 2014, 08:33:04 AM
He hasn't even started yet and he's already allowed to do anything he wants:

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 13, 2014, 10:59:10 AM
The current rumors are that Hermione Norris (who stars in the episode that sees the show filming on the Spanish coast at "the same location as an episode from 1984 where the Doctor battled an old enemy") is the new Master.

The location in question is where the 5th Doctor serial, Planet of Fire, was filmed. That old enemy was The Master.

Norris would be an interesting pick for the first female Master... She's pretty much unknown in the States, sadly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermione_Norris

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 15, 2014, 11:29:45 AM
Nice...

http://io9.com/the-evolution-of-the-tardis-key-1576383242
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 23, 2014, 03:21:48 PM
This just came through on my Twitter feed.

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#DoctorWho' With Peter Capaldi Gets August Premiere
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 23, 2014, 04:13:33 PM
Nowhere on my blogfeed!

But...that's cool. Not too long to wait. Hopefully that means the Beeb will start dropping teasers and hints about the new titles.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 23, 2014, 04:21:44 PM
Speak of the devil...

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 23, 2014, 04:26:14 PM
Haha... Oh, man... And the blogs explode not with talk about the release date, but with hateful backlash about that teaser!

Jesus, retards... You can relax. We'll have 57 other teaser trailers before August 1st, okay?

Besides, this one is kind of awesome. The TARDIS console exploding in the background... Which is another fun thing to get excited about: Will Capaldi get a new design? They've been teasing the return of the roundels since Smith took over...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 26, 2014, 02:03:49 PM
Jesus... The fan-made trailers step in to fill the gap:

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 28, 2014, 10:57:20 AM
My sci-fi Spidey Sense is telling me we're going to get a Missing Episode update in the weeks leading up to Capaldi's premiere...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 29, 2014, 12:48:45 PM
An odd pick for a two-parter...


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There was quite a stir within Doctor Who's extensive fandom last week when news broke that two episodes of the BBC sci-fi show's next season will be directed by Rachel Talalay, the director of cult classic Tank Girl and a producer of Hairspray. The current incarnation of Doctor Who has gotten some heat from its many feminist fans in recent years for failing to cast its leading star—an alien time-traveler who could presumably take many forms—as anything other than a white dude and for its writing of female characters in general. Tank Girl and Hairspray are both one-of-a-kind films created with a clear feminist bent, so some people took the hiring as a sign that Doctor Who might have heard the critiques.

More thoughts, and a full interview with Talalay at:

http://bitchmagazine.org/post/the-director-of-tank-girl-is-now-behind-the-scenes-the-new-doctor-who
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 29, 2014, 03:00:47 PM
I like Talalay quite a bit actually.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 10, 2014, 05:39:24 PM
Announced today is the "World Tour" -- http://www.doctorwho.tv/worldtour

A seven city visit between August 7th-19th ahead of the series premiere.

The missing episode "omnirumor" has attached to this as well...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 11, 2014, 06:54:12 AM
Oh my... Lots more about the global tour. "It's a new beginning for the most popular series in the world," the Beeb is saying. Capaldi's premiere will air the same day worldwide, and "more exciting news is to come..."

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 20, 2014, 01:57:54 PM
Today's rumor (coming from 7th Doctor Sylvester McCoy) is that The Master returns this season...played by a new actor who we would recognize as "someone very scary."



Please be Christopher Lee.

Today's rumor is that the Master is in for the cliffhanger and he's played by "a big Hollywood name" and is, indeed, "someone very scary."

Man, Christopher Lee would be so awesome... 
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 24, 2014, 05:25:29 PM
Leaked set photos of the finale filmed in the Cardiff Museum show them setting up the ground floor with very Gallifreyan tombstones... Which sort of confirms what we already knew -- the hunt for Gallifrey is in the cards!

(This also begs the question -- the Gallifreyan paintings are still in the museum from Day of the Doctor. How easy would it be for The Master to use one as a portal just like the 10th, 11th, and War Doctors did? Also, will The Curator return (or get an explanation, since I can't imagine Baker pulling that off again)?)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 28, 2014, 10:11:35 AM
I don't care what the fans say -- these teasers are awesome!

August 23rd!


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 30, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
Cybermen...UNIT...a feature length pilot. Gonna be awesome.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 04, 2014, 04:58:36 PM
Holy. Shit.

Davros. And...Dark Doctor.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 04, 2014, 08:22:48 PM
I have no idea what's happening in that trailer.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 05, 2014, 02:47:43 AM
I have no idea what's happening in that trailer.

The TARDIS, as in the other trailers, is blowing up. The Doctor is answering the emergency phone and getting zapped.  We get some Time Lord anatomy in the X-ray which could be a Dalek gun-effect...the Doctor dies? Capaldi is doing just one season? But the hearts are beating, so okay...

The voiceover is first Davros, then a Dalek (or evolved Davros) (most likely). Or it could be the Time Controller (a Dalek baddie from the previously non-canon and, as of the 50th anniversary, canon 8th Doctor audio dramas, and a huge fan favorite), or it could be Dalek Caan (my theory) whose prophecy from the meta-crisis remains unfulfilled.  The "I see into your soul..." stuff is pure Time Controller, though.

Dalek Caan is sort of the show's answer to the Time Controller, anyway (and was being held by Davros when last we saw him).

It's really a very exciting trailer...but it's 100% deep fan wank.

Looks like we're going to get a teaser of this ilk every Friday until the 22nd!
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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 07, 2014, 03:24:17 PM
No spoilers in the piece below.

http://www.thewrap.com/doctor-who-scripts-leak-online-bbc-begs-internet-to-avoid-spoilers/ (http://www.thewrap.com/doctor-who-scripts-leak-online-bbc-begs-internet-to-avoid-spoilers/)

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‘Doctor Who’ Scripts Leak Online, BBC Begs Internet to Avoid Spoilers

The premiere episode and four others have surfaced online

BBC Worldwide made a plea on Monday for anyone who might have read five leaked “Doctor Who” scripts to “not share” them or any spoilers with fans.

“We would like to make a plea to anyone who might have any of this material and spoilers associated with it not to share it with a wider audience so that everyone can enjoy the show as it should be seen when it launches,” the company said in a statement. “We know only too well that ‘Doctor Who’ fans are the best in the world, and we thank them for their help with this and their continued loyalty.”

The plea was attached to an apology the commercial division of U.K. public broadcaster BBC released after scripts for the upcoming season premiere and four other episodes surfaced online.

“BBC Worldwide is currently investigating a security issue around ‘Doctor Who’ Series 8 where unfinished material has inadvertently been made public,” BBC Worldwide's statement said. “We deeply regret this and apologize to all the show's fans, the BBC and the cast and crew who have worked tirelessly making the series.”

The RadioTimes reports that the security breach occurred after the scripts were sent to the BBC Worldwide's newly opened Latin America headquarters in Miami for translation.

The new season, which carries on with a new Doctor played by Peter Capaldi, premieres on Aug. 23.
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Post by: nacho on July 07, 2014, 04:12:46 PM
Rumor is that the episodes also leaked. Though no sign from the jolly roger.

So the only interesting spoilers are that the pilot will indeed be feature length, which we all suspected.

Other spoilers: The Doctor has zany adventures with attractive companions battling the same enemies he's been battling for over 50 years! SURPRISE!
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Post by: nacho on July 07, 2014, 08:59:55 PM
I read them all!

There's lots to complain about... Mainly Moffatt's fixation on branding a spin-off series, and his general mishandling of...everything.

That said, the Doctor is manic and crazy. And slightly evil. There's a whole psychotic dynamic with Clara -- the Doctor thinks she's ugly, often with hilarious results. He's totally cold and alien and moving at top speed... Really very interesting.
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Post by: nacho on July 13, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
The workprints have all been leaked as of this morning by the same guy who leaked the scripts. I'm avoiding them because they're pre-editing and CGI, though prevailing fan opinion is that this is some of the worst Who ever filmed and an appalling waste of Capaldi. There's talk of how the show has been "Whedonized."
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Post by: nacho on July 13, 2014, 11:03:04 AM
Oh my god...this guy who leaked the scripts leaked the entire season except the finale. Crazy...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 13, 2014, 07:11:13 PM
OMG OMG OMG!!!!


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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 13, 2014, 07:28:54 PM
Sexy.
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Post by: nacho on July 17, 2014, 10:34:12 AM
Okay. The first 6 episodes have leaked and are making the rounds. The hatred for them is universal... As in, Doctor Who has jumped the shark and is now dreadful and it's all over. Never seen reactions this bad before... And, for this show, the bar's really set pretty low. Especially for classic Who fans who cheerfully sit through 2.5 hour Doctor-lite episodes that had a total budget of 5000 pounds.
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Post by: nacho on July 27, 2014, 12:44:22 PM
Going back to the teaser format after having the full trailer doesn't quite work...


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Post by: nacho on July 31, 2014, 02:11:37 PM
Ka-fucking-boom!  Former 2nd Doctor companion Frazer Hines tweeted this:

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Got some great news today...but can't say yet

Followed by an announcement by the Beeb that the theater premiere of Capaldi's first episode will have a "five minute teaser of footage from an upcoming DVD release."

The Missing Episodes rumor mill just went into hyperdrive...
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Post by: nacho on August 01, 2014, 10:43:28 AM
So...it occurs to me that I've never seen JLC wearing trousers.

(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/jlctrousers.png)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 07, 2014, 11:59:15 AM
So the pictures from the cinema premiere of Deep Breath today are....insane. Mobbed streets, the TARDIS on top of Cardiff Castle, traffic stopped, mobs pressing into the theater. The red carpet walk alone had 4000 people screaming for Capaldi -- daleks and cybermen on patrol.

Initial reaction is the complete opposite of the reaction to the scripts and the work print leak -- everyone loves Deep Breath now.

All major cinema chains in the UK, New Zealand, and Australia will be showing the episode in wide release on the 23rd. Select cities in the US (12 cities, 500 screens) are also on board with this... So, now, season premieres are going to be treated like massive movie releases! Amazing, really.

BBC America is adding a half hour "pre-show" and an hour "post-show" to each episode, a la The Talking Dead. This is their bid to expand the audience even more...

Pics:
http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/cardiff2.jpg

http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/cardiffwho.jpg

In missing episodes news: The Underwater Menace -- of which only one episode exists -- was mysteriously announced for a DVD release at the end of 2014. Today, both the teams who normally do the retcons and the animations for missing episodes issued statements that say "they are not involved" with the DVD release. 
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Post by: monkey! on August 07, 2014, 04:16:01 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-28690462

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Peter Capaldi: 'My Doctor is less user-friendly'
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 07, 2014, 05:03:22 PM
He's really been pushing the "more alien Doctor" thing (which is all part of his identification with Pertwee and T. Baker).

I'm all for it! The 3rd and 4th had a certain gravitas... And the humanizing of Doctors 5-11 always felt like a mistake, and would always clash directly with how the show was being handled (6's insanity, 7's "lonely god," 10's "lonely god redux," and 11's "lonely god redux redux.")

You can't have a dark and troubled thousand year old super-powerful alien creature who has seen all time and space and then put him in a bow tie and have him dance around and flirt with 22 year old women who have never been outside their city limits.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 08, 2014, 10:03:09 AM
Lot's of love!


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The Independent

“And exhale: thankfully, this new episode fully justifies the patience of those #keepmespoilerfree fans, determined to wait it out for the Steven Moffat-approved version. It is a perfectly paced, hugely enjoyable 80 minutes of everything you want from Doctor Who – action, silly jokes and enthralling sci-fi.”
The Telegraph

“This first episode of the new series, screened at a special event in Cardiff’s St David’s Hall, showed Capaldi’s Doctor to be mercurial, edgy and febrile… Capaldi channels a sort of nervous energy through his performances and the same was true here. You always felt that his mood could turn at any moment, and sometimes he did, his unpredictability crackling off the screen… This was a highly effective opener, showing that Doctor Who is still the most intelligent, ambitious and eccentric show on British television. In his unsettling, cerebral performance, Capaldi fits right in.”
The Guardian

“As the screening began, the audience of devoted fans shrieked and whooped with excitement at the prospect of seeing the new Doctor, one that both Capaldi and the show’s writer and director, Steven Moffat, has promised would be darker than Matt Smith’s version of the character. They were not disappointed.”
CNET

“Deep Breath is … well, we don’t want to spoil it, but it’s vintage Moffat: packed full of clever, quotable dialogue delivered with relish, breathless action, and scenes that turn on a sixpence from intense character drama to sinister suspense.”
South Wales Evening Post

“As far as first impressions go, we couldn’t have asked for much more: it’s funny, dark, scary and clever, as the Doctor and his companion, the returning Jenna Coleman, must reacquaint themselves with each other, while fighting off a bevy of stempunked bad guys at the same time.”
Wales Online

“Moffat has delivered the perfect blend for Saturday night TV – bags of action, drama and humour. There are nods to previous episodes and cheeky acknowledgements of previous Doctors, but done in such a way as to delight the hard-core fans while not distracting the new.”
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 09, 2014, 12:41:45 PM
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 11, 2014, 12:58:23 PM
So... All these fan made title sequences?

This guy got the job (allegedly). His fan made title (below) is the "inspiration for the new title sequence."

That's pretty awesome.


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 11, 2014, 04:34:43 PM
Deep Breath trailer...


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Post by: nacho on August 17, 2014, 12:38:34 AM
New York...


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Post by: nacho on August 17, 2014, 01:37:23 PM
There we go...JLC is leaving at the end of the season. Not too surprising.
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Post by: nacho on August 18, 2014, 11:12:17 AM

We also got the episode titles:


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Episode 1: Deep Breath
Written by Steven Moffat. Directed by Ben Wheatley

Episode 2: Into The Dalek
Written by Phil Ford and Steven Moffat.
Directed by Ben Wheatley

Episode 3: Robots Of Sherwood
Written by Mark Gatiss. Directed by Paul Murphy

Episode 4: Listen
Written by Steven Moffat. Directed by Douglas Mackinnon

Episode 5: Time Heist
Written by Stephen Thompson and Steven Moffat. Directed by Douglas Mackinnon

Episode 6: The Caretaker
Written by Gareth Roberts and Steven Moffat. Directed by Paul Murphy

Episode 7: Kill The Moon
Written by Peter Harness. Directed by Paul Wilmshurst

Episode 8: Mummy On The Orient Express
Written by Jamie Mathieson. Directed by Paul Wilmshurst

Episode 9: Flatline
Written by Jamie Mathieson. Directed by Douglas Mackinnon

Episode 10: In The Forest Of The Night
Written by Frank Cottrell Boyce. Directed by Sheree Folkson

Episode 11/12 Dark Water/Death In Heaven
Written by Steven Moffat. Directed by Rachel Talalay
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 19, 2014, 09:45:54 AM

And, man, am I going to miss the uber-cuteness of JLC after this season...

http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/morejlc.jpg
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 19, 2014, 09:54:12 AM
The Radio Times printed a synopsis/tease for each episode...and the season sounds pretty goddamned epic:


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Deep Breath
"Who frowned me this face?"
A slaughterhouse restaurant and a buried spaceship lead The Doctor into a confrontation with a long-forgotten foe...

Into The Dalek
"Imagine the worst thing in the universe, and then don't bother because you're looking at right now. This is evil refined as engineering."
In the dying days of a bitter war, a beleaguered army has one last hope: a Dalek so damaged it has become good.  But can it be trusted? To find out, a miniaturised team, led by The Doctor and Clara, embark on a fantastic voyage into the Dalek itself...

Robot of Sherwood
"There's no such thing as Robin Hood!"
In a sun-dappled Sherwood Forest, The Doctor discovers an evil plan from beyond the stars. But with of Nottingham at stake (and possibly Derby), there's no time for the two adventurers to get into a fight about who is real and who isn't - which is probably why they do very little else!

Listen
"What's that in the mirror, and the corner of your eye? What's the footstep following, but never passing by?"
What scares the grand old man of time? What horrors lurk under his bed? Ghosts of the past and future crowd into the lives of The Doctor and Clara; a terrified caretaker in a children's home, the last man standing in the universe, and a little boy who doesn't want to join the army...

Time Heist
"Welcome to the bank of Karabraxos."
The Bank of Karabraxos is the deadliest bank in the cosmos - only a fool or genius would tempt to rob it. Fortunately, for The Doctor, he's both. But nothing even The Doctor has encountered can prepare them for the Teller: a creature of terrifying power that can detect guilt.

The Caretaker
"Human beings have incredibly short life-spans. Frankly, you should all be in a permanent state of panic. Tick tock, tick tock."
Clara has it all under control: her life at school, her life in space; her new boyfriend and her mad old Time Lord. Everything is humming along just fine, so long as everybody never actually meets. And then, one morning, just before assembly, Coal Hill welcomes a new relief caretaker with a Scottish accent.

Kill the Moon
"The little planetoid that's been tagging along beside you for a hundred years, which gives you light at night and seas to sail, is in the process of falling to bits."
In the near future, The Doctor and Clara arrive on a decrepit shuttle making a suicide mission to the Moon. Crashing on the lunar surface, they find a mining base full of eviscerated corpses, spider-like creatures scuttling about in the dark, and a terrible dilemma.

Mummy on the Orient Express
"Start the clock!"
Aboard the most beautiful train in history, speeding among the stars of the future, a legend is stalking the passengers. Once you see the Mummy, you have 66 seconds to live. Clara sees The Doctor at his most deadliest and most ruthless - and finally she realises she's made the right decision. Because this is their last adventure: it's time to say goodbye to the Time Lord.

Flatline
"Look, your home isn't going anywhere. And neither is mine until I figure this out."
Separated from The Doctor, Clara discovers a new menace from another dimension. But how do you hide when event the walls are no protection.

In the Forest of the Night
"D'you like the forest being in Trafalgar Square? I think it's lovely."
One morning in London, and every city and town in the world, the human race wakes up to the most surprising invasion yet: the trees have moved back in. Everywhere, in every land, a forest has grown overnight and taken back the Earth.

Dark Water / Death in Heaven
"You betrayed me. You betrayed my trust, our friendship, and everything I've ever stood for. You let me down."
In the mysterious world of the Nethersphere, plans have been drawn. Old friends and old enemies manoeuvre around The Doctor, and an impossible choice is looming over him.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 19, 2014, 09:57:50 AM
Loving the Radio Times cover!


(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/DW-iPad_Digital-Cover.jpg)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 19, 2014, 10:01:10 AM
Oh! And today's rumor puts young Milner Rose Leslie as the new companion for season nine...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 19, 2014, 10:04:22 AM
Oh! And JLC tweeted, then quickly deleted the tweet, that Moffatt was planning to leave with her (which explains a similar slip by The Independent that named Gatiss as the new showrunner). Apparently we'll get a big infodump of news towards the end of the season.
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Post by: nacho on August 20, 2014, 10:17:33 AM
I know these are getting stupid...but they're really charging me up!


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 20, 2014, 10:22:51 AM
So... All these fan made title sequences?

This guy got the job (allegedly). His fan made title (below) is the "inspiration for the new title sequence."

That's pretty awesome.




Here's a cellphone-quality pirate of the titles from the Deep Breath movie premiere. Super loud, and just the people all screaming in the audience, so turn the sound off. Very few changes to the fan-made design. Very cool. Also, it's the version of the theme song from the 50th Anniversary trailer, which is cool.


And since I mentioned the 50th anniversary trailer!

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Post by: nacho on August 20, 2014, 02:52:51 PM
The Doctor Who world tour hits Rio... I am slightly worried at this point that the BBC is planning some sort of global takeover on Saturday. We'll all wake up Monday morning and have to send them 10% of our earnings and salute a foreign flag.


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Post by: nacho on August 20, 2014, 02:58:21 PM
High-larious:

http://io9.com/top-10-most-ridiculously-overcomplicated-doctor-who-vil-1624290084
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 21, 2014, 10:33:32 AM
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 21, 2014, 10:35:32 AM
I love the lifelong fan angle...

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Post by: nacho on August 21, 2014, 10:41:06 AM
The current big scandal is... Not enough extras! The Radio Times is condemning the BBC for "short-changing" Doctor Who fans when it comes to extras for each episode.

Currently, each episode is getting a 15 minute pre-show, a half hour after-show, and a ten minute "making of" webisode. So each episode's extras are 10 minutes longer than the episode itself...

Maybe RT wants a 24/7 Doctor Who channel.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 22, 2014, 12:49:11 AM
The "dark Doctor" has led the Beeb to repost all the darker moments from the series all over the place... RC, you and I need to sit down and watch Family of Blood. It's basically Doctor Who meets Maynard Gordon.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on August 22, 2014, 05:16:18 AM

And, man, am I going to miss the uber-cuteness of JLC after this season...

http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/morejlc.jpg

She has boxer's knuckles.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on August 22, 2014, 03:28:48 PM
I take it you saw the pics from the Doctor Who xxx parody?

http://io9.com/geronimo-first-work-safe-look-at-the-new-x-rated-docto-1624675719 (http://io9.com/geronimo-first-work-safe-look-at-the-new-x-rated-docto-1624675719)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 22, 2014, 05:11:12 PM
Oh yes...and the trailer.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 22, 2014, 10:27:13 PM
Been reading the reviews of the opener. Critics love it, but fans seem lukewarm.
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Post by: nacho on August 23, 2014, 12:06:29 PM
Been reading the reviews of the opener. Critics love it, but fans seem lukewarm.

Yeah...I talked about that a few pages back when they all leaked. Deep Breath is universally hated by the fans. But ity a post regeneration episode. Doctors 3, 5, and 10 spent their first episode asleep!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 24, 2014, 09:44:17 AM
Amazing episode! It had some terribly goofy moments, and some major flaws, but Capaldi brings this weird gravitas to the role...even when he's being super silly.

The whole damn episode is callback to classic who. All I could think of was Pertwee's and Baker's first episodes.

They're also not kidding about the dark Doctor... There's a fairly major moment that plays out off screen that leaves you questioning if this Doctor is willing to kill to get his way.

The comedy elements that weren't silly (the one-liners) were all delivered with laugh out loud ease... It was awesome. ("Nothing is more important than my egomania!")

Clara's changed, as well. The whole relationship has been skewed.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 24, 2014, 11:33:32 AM
io9:

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Peter Capaldi Is Already Carrying Doctor Who On His Amazing Shoulders

The lengthy review ends with what everyone is saying today:


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But in any case, Capaldi totally steals the episode, puts it in his pocket throws it around, and then steals it again. Tons of moments like him speaking the thoughts of the dinosaur, stealing the horse from a carriage, pouring a drink while telling Half-Face Man that he's afraid he'll have to kill him... he's just perfect. And he's channeling Tom Baker's aggressively weird, baffled-but-rude performance, which is just the best thing ever.

Purely for Capaldi's bravura performance, I'm 100 percent excited for Doctor Who all over again.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on August 24, 2014, 03:56:05 PM
Dropbox, please!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 25, 2014, 08:11:02 AM
Is France exempt from the Doctor Who saturation? It's on demand from here to Yemen...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on August 25, 2014, 10:19:01 AM
France only cares about wine, cheese, and extra-marital affairs.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 25, 2014, 09:08:18 PM
Forbes say Capaldi is more Pertwee than Baker. Or maybe they're saying Capaldi is to Smith what Baker was to Pertwee.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/08/23/doctor-who-series-8-episode-1premiere-review-deep-breath/
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 26, 2014, 08:54:43 AM
Forbes say Capaldi is more Pertwee than Baker. Or maybe they're saying Capaldi is to Smith what Baker was to Pertwee.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/08/23/doctor-who-series-8-episode-1premiere-review-deep-breath/

He's sort of a Pertwee-Baker mix, though I do see more Baker in there. Especially with the start-stop way of talking, and the sort of emotional smash-cut from zaniness to elderly statesmen gravitas. In one scene e go form a goofy ride up an elevator into an escape shuttle to, when we next see the Doctor, he chillingly pours a drink and says to the baddie in a calm, steady voice, those eyes blazing, " "I've got a horrible feeling I'm going to have to kill you."

That scene, in fact, made up for all the goofiness of the episode...and made me think we mght have the best Doctor yet. Capaldi made a bad episode amazing.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 26, 2014, 10:29:21 AM
God...I love the new tease-teaser approach. Promo for Saturday:


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 26, 2014, 11:20:57 PM
You want to know how uninitiated in Doctor Who I am? I thought "Deep Breath" was great.

One does hope they can and will move on from the maudlin "I miss Matt Smith" tone and dig in deep, but I certainly liked  what it did to the stakes when he left Clara in the droids dungeon.

Who was the woman in "the promised land?" I got the feeling true Whovians would recognize her.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 27, 2014, 08:20:19 AM
You want to know how uninitiated in Doctor Who I am? I thought "Deep Breath" was great.

Why is that uninitiated? I thought it was great, too! In fact, my review started with "what an amazing episode!"

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Who was the woman in "the promised land?" I got the feeling true Whovians would recognize her.

Nope. But the options are:

1) The Rani (the collection aspect is typical of her)
2) A female regeneration of the Master (the elaborate, season-arc type plan instead of simply shooting the Doctor in the face is typical of him)
3) A new baddie

I think Michelle Gomez is a Time Lord, though, because let's look at the promised land -- no sky visible (just washed out), very tight walls... And we first see Michelle Gomez sitting on that central fountain, which looks an awful lot like a TARDIS control console, yes? That garden is pretty clearly a TARDIS control room in disguise.

I'd put even money on her being a female Master, just to appease the "we need a female Doctor" fandom and, perhaps, to set a precedent for #13 when the time comes.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 27, 2014, 10:16:58 AM
She was kind of hot. Though JLC in Victorian garb was just *droooooollll*.

I said uninitiated because most of fandom seems to be bitching about it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 27, 2014, 10:32:10 AM
She was kind of hot. Though JLC in Victorian garb was just *droooooollll*.

I said uninitiated because most of fandom seems to be bitching about it.

That's because NuWho fans are fucking cunts.

Michelle Gomez is the hottest. If you haven't watched Green Wing, then you're missing out. At this point, Green Wing, along with Spaced and similar shows, is sort of the Generation One of modern absurdist pseudo-sketch comedy in a "soap opera" setting. Easily one of the most brilliant -- and now most borrowed-from -- modern Britcoms. It also is one of those convergence points for well-known Britcom and drama actors. Everyone was in Green Wing...

Michelle Gomez played the outlandishly insane HR person:

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 27, 2014, 11:57:14 AM
I've spent a good part of my morning obsessing over Michelle Gomez.
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Post by: nacho on August 27, 2014, 12:24:17 PM
I've spent a good part of my morning obsessing over Michelle Gomez.

I've spent a good part of the last two decades obsessing over her.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 27, 2014, 02:20:20 PM
BTW, the Beeb is calling her character "The Gatekeeper of the Nethersphere."
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 27, 2014, 03:13:28 PM
BTW, the Beeb is calling her character "The Gatekeeper of the Nethersphere."

Yep. That leaked in July. It means...nothing.

Here's your rabbit hole: http://www.kasterborous.com/2014/08/just-missy-gatekeeper-nethersphere/
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 28, 2014, 08:39:56 AM
Am I a good man again, and more Dalek love. Since the leak, th fans have been raving about Into the Dalek... Calling it the best Dalek episode since the 9th Doctor.

RC -- I know where you're getting your fan hate, but most of the Doctor Who sites, and the jolly rogers, have all been very forgiving. As have the ratings (though not the UK's nebulous "audience appreciation survey).

The trouble, I think, is the call back to Classic Who... They've spent the last 9 years grooming a whole new generation of fans, and now they're sort of demanding that those fans watch the previous 800 episodes to get what they're doing now. (In the omnirumor world, there's a strong belief that the cause for this tone change is because we're going to get the announcement that all the episodes have been recovered and Classic Who is going to be all the rage again, since Web and Enemy were gigantic bestsellers. This, seemingly, has been backed up by the leaked extra of Capaldi introducing Marco Polo, and the persistent rumor that Capaldi has recorded similar introductions for many other lost episodes...)



Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on August 28, 2014, 09:12:48 AM
Watched episode one, the first episode of Doctor Who I've watched since Tom Baker - much fun, and Capaldi is great. "I hate being wrong in public. Everybody forget that happened." The assistant chick is hot but an image search later... few things worse than disappointing tits.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 28, 2014, 10:03:51 AM
I'm sorry, why has this thread ceased to be about Michelle Gomez?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 28, 2014, 10:15:53 AM
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on August 28, 2014, 11:38:27 AM
So, disappointing tits....
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 28, 2014, 12:21:22 PM
So, disappointing tits....

JLC looks a bit too sculpted for my taste, actually. She's cute and all -- which is her only job, so she better be -- but, yes, as a super sex symbol? Not really. Hell, talk about the Baker era! I'm a Leela man... And darling little Sarah Jane. And the double shot of Romanas...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 28, 2014, 12:27:15 PM
Actually -- you know when JLC lost her sexiness? When I saw her in the same scene with Amy Pond. That's when it hit me that I miss staring at Karen Gillian run down a corridor in a micro-skirt
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 28, 2014, 01:51:39 PM
My love for the Gomez has blinded me to all other Who girls.

I would argue that "Deep Breath" functioned as a far better entry point than any other Who I've seen. Sure, I'm still a little hazy on exactly what's up with snake lady, Jenny from the block, and Strax, but I understand they're allies of the Doctor and his companion. And since JLC doesn't carry the emotional weight for me from the Matt Smith era, I'm not concerned with that emotional baggage. I can pick up from here and enjoy it... which I did thoroughly.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 28, 2014, 03:41:12 PM
The Paternoster Gang is one of Moffatt's endless attempts to create a spin-off show. They were introduced, entirely without preamble, in a webisode prior to the 2012 Christmas episode that nobody watched (including me) and appeared several times, without explanation or call back to that webisode, in last season's episodes. Most fans are totally confused by their presence and what they're about.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on August 28, 2014, 06:24:45 PM
Actually -- you know when JLC lost her sexiness? When I saw her in the same scene with Amy Pond. That's when it hit me that I miss staring at Karen Gillian run down a corridor in a micro-skirt

She lost it when I saw her topless.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 28, 2014, 11:00:06 PM
The Paternoster Gang is one of Moffatt's endless attempts to create a spin-off show. They were introduced, entirely without preamble, in a webisode prior to the 2012 Christmas episode that nobody watched (including me) and appeared several times, without explanation or call back to that webisode, in last season's episodes. Most fans are totally confused by their presence and what they're about.

Oh.... well then the Deep Breath is the perfect entry point then because the Paternoster Gang was the only confusing part about it.


EDIT:
Missus RC is turned off by the concept of an older Doctor. I'm thinking about killing her.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 29, 2014, 08:29:06 AM

EDIT:
Missus RC is turned off by the concept of an older Doctor. I'm thinking about killing her.

She typifies NuWho fandom, then...and there is a backlash. It's insane, because the Doctor has always been old...and when he isn't, he's *supposed* to be playing an "old man in a young man's body." I think Matt Smith, in the long run, will prove to have killed the show.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 29, 2014, 08:46:02 AM
The ratings are fascinating, really. Deep Breath performed best in the US -- because most of the US fans that didn't come in with Tennant are the old Tom Baker-saturation era stalwarts. It did not perform well at home, though... And I have to wonder how much Doctor Who is being written for American audiences these days. Certainly half the jokes were geared for "anglophiles who remember Tom Baker," and, despite letting Capaldi keep his accent, they did not let Gomez keep hers (I loved the in-character lampshade that she hangs on that, too).

The jolly rogers and the press all agree that tomorrow's episode is back in stride and will knock our socks off...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on August 29, 2014, 10:35:42 AM
I'm an old Baker stalwart, then?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 29, 2014, 10:52:10 AM
Monkey, you're the perfect example of why Deep Breath and Capaldi are great! The last time you saw Who, it was Baker's Doctor, yes?

Go back and watch, say, Cold War from last season and you'll see what New Who has become...and that's one of the stand-out episodes!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on August 29, 2014, 02:09:21 PM
The only Doctor Who I regularly watched was that of Tom Baker.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 29, 2014, 03:34:48 PM
Oh! Missing episode update! Even an official statement leaves about a hundred questions unanswered. The statement is: "There will be no missing episode announcements in 2014."

Phrasing it like that makes it pretty clear that there ARE missing episodes and we'll hear about them next year, yes? Which makes sense if there really is as big a cache as the rumor claims. The daunting task of figuring out what's salvageable and then restoring it is probably a living hell...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 29, 2014, 03:42:41 PM
The Paternoster Gang is one of Moffatt's endless attempts to create a spin-off show. They were introduced, entirely without preamble, in a webisode prior to the 2012 Christmas episode that nobody watched (including me) and appeared several times, without explanation or call back to that webisode, in last season's episodes. Most fans are totally confused by their presence and what they're about.

Oh.... well then the Deep Breath is the perfect entry point then because the Paternoster Gang was the only confusing part about it.


EDIT:
Missus RC is turned off by the concept of an older Doctor. I'm thinking about killing her.

I guess I could add, for the newbie RC, that Vastra is a Silurian. They're one of the Doctor's enemies since the 3rd Doctor, though they've always been sort of neutral. Bad guys just because they were fighting for their right to survive and so on... But her character has the same history I mentioned -- that is, none.

Strax is a Sontaran, also an enemy since the 3rd Doctor, and always totally evil. His character -- catch this! -- is based off of a character from an unused script from the 5th season! LOL...

Jenny wasn't even in that webisode. She just suddenly appears as Vastra's wife. Yawn.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 30, 2014, 11:24:47 AM
So, during the Peter Davison-hosted pre-Deep breath specials, Davison was taking a tour of the Dalek storage area and they were making a big fuss about the secret Dalek that was under a sheet.

I feared a return of Matt Smith's "New Paradigm Daleks," but, no, it's a classic Dalek! Fully restored from the 1963 serial, and being used in tonight's episode (though the one Dalek we keep seeing is new, so a 1963 flashback I suppose...which should be cool...)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 30, 2014, 11:34:22 AM
So much for being universally loved by the critics. This is actually a bit shocking... And probably quite true. Nostalgia and cash... I still say the problem is the Americanization of the show, which has been ongoing since 2010 but especially ramped up with the 2013 season. The Americanization, by the way, is the cash part of it -- Doctor Who makes more off of BBC America's commercial system than they do off of the bizarrely British BBC system. BBC America, as a company outside of the BBC's normal restrictions, can rake in all those profits and go hog wild. The US is also the larger buyer of DVDs at this point, and pay-for-streaming. So an American Doctor Who is a cash cow. That means, though, that the show becomes more and more like Community's Dr. Spacetime and less and less like the quirky English speculative fiction of the classic era.

While the Telegraph's comments aren't entirely off, I disagree re Capaldi. I kind of think Capaldi's point might be to try to integrate the Britishness with the Americanization. A nod to the classic fans. Then again, cynically, Capaldi might just be an attempt to capture the love of American fans even more, given that Tom Baker is very much America's Doctor.


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British newspaper The Telegraph has published a scathing piece on the new Series and Deep Breath in particular.

Benji Wilson, writes:

“Ever since Doctor Who returned in 2005 I have been mystified as to why it is so regularly hailed as a touchstone of British broadcasting. Yet to question Doctor Who’s pre-eminence is a heresy akin to slagging off Julie Walters. The answer to one of television’s most bizarre dogmas lies, I suspect, somewhere between nostalgia and cold, hard cash.”
Wilson is also critical of the show’s writing under the stewardship of Steven Moffat:

“With showrunner Steven Moffat at the reins, Doctor Who is stranded somewhere between complexity and simplicity. It employs some brilliant, grown-up writers who want to thrill and scare and make clever nods to past storylines and Whovian mythology. But ultimately you get a jarring contrast between the banality of the story and the ingenuity of the discourse. At times the dialogue is so pleased with itself that if it were a guest at a dinner party you would stick its face in the soup tureen.”
And believes Peter Capaldi “knows he cannot escape” from the show:

“What of Peter Capaldi, who plays the newly regenerated Doctor? He looked like a very good actor continually surprised to find himself in a children’s programme from which he knows he cannot escape for several years.”
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on August 30, 2014, 11:53:31 AM
It is somewhat true... if it was Capaldi, I would have laughed it off... I mean... giant T-Rex that would never attain such size... a lizard woman, etc.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 30, 2014, 12:13:17 PM
I don't agree with the Telegraph's uncomfortable Capaldi presumption... He's had a fine, strong career for decades, this role is a childhood dream, and he'll leave Doctor Who about a zillion dollars richer and just live out the remainder of his life like an ex-president. A few thousand here for a convention appearance, a few thousand there for a commercial, a few thousand coming in each month everytime the show uses his face, an episode is repeated in syndication, and the DVD's continue to sell through the roof and get endlessly repackaged by the money-crazed Beeb...

Plus, if it's true that he's doing intros for missing episode releases, he's basically going to become "the face of Doctor Who."
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on August 30, 2014, 01:40:48 PM
Oh, he'll make a mint.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 30, 2014, 01:48:39 PM
Television critic is a job that ranks slightly above shit shoveler but still below bedpan cleaner.

It's a bias against popular entertainment. Critics of any media wants to be those people who discover something that nobody's ever heard of before them and then are pissed off when no one but them likes it. Then they slag off that simple sugary thing everybody loves out of pure spite rather than trying to see why people gravitate towards it.

Is Doctor Who a silly little show? Yes, it is. Is it's story motivated by money. Of course it is. Yet, is it an enjoyable little show? As long as your head isn't so far up your ass you can't see, Yes, it is.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 31, 2014, 09:54:57 AM
Into the Dalek is incredibly uneven. It feels like they took a script that wanted to be two hours and crammed as much as they could into 45 minutes.

Once again, Capaldi is the star of the show. Great presence, great delivery, and still very excited to see him as the Doctor. But everything swirling around him is a hot mess, breathlessly trying to rush through what might have been an excellent story.

I was really hoping we'd get a powerhouse episode here because Robot of Sherwood, next week, looks super stupid.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 04, 2014, 11:35:35 AM
Missing episodes rumors...

This time, we get hacked emails from the BFI, which allude to (yet, of course, do not conclusively say anything) an announcement at the end of 2014.

For the Capaldi intros -- the Marco Polo one appears to either be an outtake/extra/scene from a future episode this season. The others remain just rumors.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: monkey! on September 04, 2014, 02:54:05 PM
http://www.cnet.com/news/dine-like-a-time-lord-with-doctor-who-cutlery/#ftag=CAD590a51e
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 05, 2014, 10:07:14 AM
Capaldi (directing) won an Academy Award for this in 94, apparently...


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 07, 2014, 01:39:13 PM
In terms of the ongoing storyline with Missy in Paradise, "Robot of Sherwood" is an interesting hint... Though the destination for our bad guys is The Promised Land, we don't see them get there like we have for the last two episodes.

Which right away answers a plot question -- the robots did not die willingly. Soldier girl in Into the Dalek sacrificed herself, and we can presume that the Doctor convinced the Half-Faced Man in Deep Breath to sacrifice himself.

So Missy is collecting the people the Doctor has convinced to sacrifice themselves, versus those he is directly responsible for killing.

That will very nicely play into the overall theme of these first three episodes -- deconstructing the hero myth that has been so carefully crafted around the New Doctor since 2005, and especially since Tennant -- the "lonely god" Doctor is being played, by Capaldi, as a fallible man full of self-doubt and questions. "Robot of Sherwood" was a direct assault on the Doctor as a fantasy adventure hero.

At the end of all of this, in Missy's Paradise, the Doctor will have to face the people he talked into sacrificing themselves...in both cases (so far) his actions have been somewhat selfish. We could debate the need for the Half-Faced Man to die, but certainly the Doctor's use of the soldiers in Into the Dalek was craven.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 08, 2014, 10:03:57 AM
I've nay watched Deep Breath. Is my new girlfriend Michelle Gomez in the other two episodes?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 08, 2014, 10:30:12 AM
I've nay watched Deep Breath. Is my new girlfriend Michelle Gomez in the other two episodes?

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 14, 2014, 08:50:25 AM
Listen was...weird. But I guess it had everything Doctor Who should have -- it had scary moments, it had gizmo moments, it had spaceship moments, it crossed timelines so much that you just simply stopped thinking about paradoxes, and we got a taste of Gallifrey and a very nice tie-in to the 50th Anniversary episode.

We're also hitting all the right notes for Clara's exit. They're denying it, but the writing is really on the wall as of this episode. 
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 14, 2014, 09:27:15 AM
The AV Club review loved Listen beyond reason:http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/doctor-who-listen-209034?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds

They were also kind enough to link to this:


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 15, 2014, 04:08:29 AM
So... Phil Morris. The man who returned Enemy of the World and Web of fear and is at the heart of the "omnirumor" saying that there are more lost episodes in hand has gone crazy.

Slowly, a picture emerges... Morris had some sort of unknown behind the scenes issue when he returned those two episodes to the BBC in 2013. No doubt money related...

Lately, he's started to attack the show... Most recently in an alarming crazy-stroke-victim way:

http://doctorwhoworldwide.com/2014/09/14/phil-morris-continues-attack-doctor-claims-jimmy-savile-comes-mind/
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 25, 2014, 02:02:44 PM
Time Heist...

I think they've gone a little too far towards the anti-season-arc end of the spectrum... Mainly because there IS a season arc! Missy and Paradise, and the whole fucking point of the last season and the 50th Anniversary -- find and save Gallifrey. With it very clearly stated that the Doctor's sole mission is to find Gallifrey, and Missy's apparent TARDIS-esque locale, it seems very odd that we're now approaching the halfway mark and he hasn't even mentioned Gallifrey. And, yet, the audience gets a clue and a nod in every episode except for Time Heist.

This also kind of pulls the teeth when Missy returns for the finale arc. The Doctor has, largely, ignored an otherwise over-the-top and alarming coincidence -- his first three adventures involved the bad guys being obsessed with "Paradise" as a physical destination.

The other huge mistake is that it's Clara's story. Still. The Doctor is almost in the role of a supporting cast member to the real star of the show -- Clara Oswald. That pays off, I suppose, if Clara turns out to be a Time Lady of some sort (the popular fan theory is that she's either Susan, Romana, or the Rani under the protection of a Chameleon Arch), but Capaldi is such a powerful presence... I'd rather we fully return to the classical Who days and have a barking mad Doctor roaming around aimlessly, like Tom Baker. Baker's companions always had to keep up with him, not vice versa. So far, the show's been about Clara trying to socialize the Doctor. Clara is also not a full-time companion. This season (and, yes, the whole season) sees her leading a double life as a sad schoolteacher at Susan's old school, getting snaked into the occasional adventure with the Doctor, and then dropped off in time for whatever she was trying to do before she got sidetracked. So we not only get Clara's Story, we get it in a non-adventurer setting. Will the brave Clara be able to deal with forming relationships and keeping a job down if she moonlights as the Doctor's companion in the evenings?

I'm tired of Clara. I want to see an alien Companion, or, at least, a companion from the future or past instead of one directly chosen from among the show's target audience. A Companion, no matter how you play with them, is a one-note character. Distracting the show by trying to build this world around the Companion is...well, crazy. Especially when you have a strong Doctor and a deliciously pre-fabricated mission.


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 25, 2014, 02:10:58 PM
I haven't watched since Deep Breath, though there's a handful of episodes I intend to get into me.

Missy is my new girlfriend, yes?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 29, 2014, 10:37:40 AM
The Caretaker was a pretty awesome episode. It felt like a weird update of a classic Who episode.

Also, we got a little taste of Missy...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 02, 2014, 10:42:43 AM
The Beeb is aggressively pitting Doctor Who against blockbuster X Factor...and winning. Though the late night showing (now closer to 9pm) has many people wondering if what we're really seeing is a shift to "adult" Doctor Who. Which...I think is good, but the fans seem torn.

Meanwhile, in the "why is this Clara's story" complaint department, the episode airing next week -- Flatline -- is a virtually Doctor-less episode! Jesus... If Moffatt wants to remake Buffy, he can go do that on his own time.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 03, 2014, 11:53:09 AM
The "minisode" aired to announce the re-opening of the Doctor Who Experience exhibition is interesting, given the lack of lip service paid to this season's supposed "mission" to find Gallifrey:


That's the voice of Romana II... And seemingly a reminder that the 12th Doctor has a larger purpose than wandering around criticizing Clara.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 03, 2014, 01:10:40 PM
I love when they parade the geek stuff around...


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 06, 2014, 09:57:12 AM
Kill the Moon -- More classic Who stuff. Like a Tom Baker episode... If, that is, Tom Baker just fucked off and left Sarah Jane to do everything, which Capaldi does with Clara. Twice!

We had a great "break up" moment where it would have been nice to write Clara out, but that's not happening.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 06, 2014, 10:22:47 AM
Oh, but not to get distracted by Clara... The ongoing deconstruction of the Doctor as a hero is fascinating. We get the most damning condemnation of him from Clara in Kill the Moon.

And Capaldi... Just so amazing, even if lightly used. Such amazing elements at every turn. The fierceness, the weakness...and a great scene where Mankind's history, slightly rewritten, appears to wash over him like a wave.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 14, 2014, 12:55:24 PM
Mummy on the Orient Express. A largely Clara-less episode! She spent most of the episode trapped and (literally) phoning it in... Which is great because, finally, we got Capaldi front and center...and he was great.

Another theme starts to be exposed here -- yet again, the Doctor is battling a lost, malfunctioning soldier... Just like in the Caretaker, Deep Breath (to a degree), and Robot of Sherwood. With Kill the Moon and Listen dealing heavily with the soldier aspect, the Doctor as ex-soldier rejecting soldiers is an interesting part of the deconstruction of the character.

We are just about to tip into finale country. Two more regular episodes to go... So whatever they're trying to tell us, they'd better get on with it. Likewise, if Gallifrey is going to play a part this season, they need to give us a few more obvious nods. They seem happier to leave us with questions -- such as with this episode. Who was the mastermind Gus? How did it know who and what the Doctor was? The characters themselves don't even seem willing to question this once the dust has settled.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 14, 2014, 12:57:26 PM
The finale will be Missy and the Cybermen, yes?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 14, 2014, 01:02:55 PM
Yes. The whole gang is together. It'll be all the UNIT folks from the 50th.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 14, 2014, 01:06:23 PM
*swoon*
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 20, 2014, 11:30:10 AM
Another Clara-heavy episode (for the Doctor, who is stuck inside the TARDIS for most of the episode, it's almost a bottle episode...like he filmed everything separate from the rest of the cast), Flatline did have some saving graces... The monsters were damned scary, so the show continues to seek its horror roots from the early Tom Baker years. We also got a little bit more Missy.

Once again, Clara is Something Special... Though this time for Missy. (I'm now guessing that she's a future incarnation of the Doctor.)

But we really are getting to the point where Clara is either regenerating or simply doesn't exist. She's died three times, she's now been involved in and had extraordinary influence on the Doctor's timeline from when he was a boy to the present, and now Missy is obsessed with her. So Clara's basically the most important person in the universe and across all of time at this point. 
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 20, 2014, 11:44:31 AM
Still no idea who Missy is?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 20, 2014, 11:55:16 AM
Still no idea who Missy is?

It's a finale thing.

The fact that she was watching Clara from the Doctor's POV (and we were not during the same scene right before we cut to Missy) tells me she's a future incarnation, and probably the Valeyard. She's seeing Clara as an image from her own memory... 

Having her be a future version of the Doctor also jives perfectly with the deconstruction of the Doctor that has been this season's theme. Time Heist and Listen also sort of set up the paradox that the Doctor has been goofing around in his own past a little bit, or that the TARDIS isn't paying close attention to the old rules.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 20, 2014, 12:55:19 PM
Radio Times, and the language coming out of Doctor Who HQ, is that she's "a brand new villain." Which is fine... We need new villains. The possibility of Gomez having a recurring role is also very nice. 
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 27, 2014, 08:47:51 AM
In the Forest of the Night... A good episode, but kind of loose around the edges. It felt like a cool-down episode (the two-part finale freakout starts next weekend). The problem is that the whole season has been full of cool-down episodes. Missy as the Big Bad has been largely underused, and sometimes entirely absent, the Doctor seems to have completely forgotten his quest for Gallifrey, it's been more of the Clara Show than Doctor Who half the time, and the deconstruction of the Doctor angle has added to the whole sense that this show, weirdly, is no longer about him.

So now we have two episodes -- and Missy's reveal -- to make up for all of that.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 28, 2014, 10:52:01 AM
So! Finale Part One trailer breakdown! Trailer #1:


1) Back in the Doctor's timeline where we first met the War Doctor?

2) The cybertombs... But not Telos. The Doctor would certainly recognize that.

3) The famous shot from The Invasion -- which we've seen all year -- still leaves us a little clueless. Are we going to cross paths with the Second Doctor DS9 tribbilations style? Though we know modern UNIT eventually deals with the Cybermen in the finale.

4) "You know who I am." So Missy is an old villain.

Trailer #2:


1) Very clearly inside the Doctor's timeline again.

2) Very clearly the cybertombs... And Clara waking them up?

3) "Time can be rewritten" -- we are going back to The Invasion!

4) "You know who I am." and "Clara Oswald has never existed." smash-cutting... Hmmm...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 28, 2014, 12:35:00 PM
Missy is Clara.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 28, 2014, 12:51:01 PM
Missy is Clara.

That's only part of the answer, though. Because then who is Clara?

The Cybermen have lots of fans saying she's Mr. Clever...which would be just about the most annoying thing this show has done since the late 60s!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 30, 2014, 01:41:55 PM
These two together are amazing to watch...


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 02, 2014, 12:19:49 PM
Finale part one was terrific... And a very slow burn, but at least we got the Missy reveal. She's exactly who everyone thought she was, which is either the Moff's vicious attack on gender-bending regenerations, or prepping us for a female 13th Doctor.

But, anyway... I'm fine with Missy being who she is, and I hope that Michelle Gomez (who stole the entire episode) gets to keep the role for a while like previous incarnations of her character. 
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 02, 2014, 12:53:42 PM
So she's not Clara?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 02, 2014, 01:27:14 PM
So she's not Clara?

Nope. She's The Master. So, yes, the garden was a TARDIS control room, and that's how she's stealing souls. 

Clara's still something, though. But I think she's just being set up to die in next week's finale. The rumor that young Milner is lined up to be the next companion persists...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 03, 2014, 11:03:05 AM
The backlash to revealing a female Master is epic! Who knew Doctor Who fans were such a bunch of touchy, potentially homicidal misogynists.  I am personally against a female Doctor, but not because "What would you do if Jim Kirk came back to TV as a woman?!?!??!"

The Doctor's an alien. Even the classic show paid lip service that the Doctor need not always regenerate into a man -- or even a human. So I wouldn't be particularly bothered if the Doctor did end up being female... My only argument for staying male is that the character, even when in a younger incarnation, is patrician, overbearing, and arrogant. But, you know, whatever.

Michelle Gomez is a perfect Master. My only complaint is that we didn't get more of her as a Big Bad throughout the season.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 03, 2014, 11:05:47 AM
Sean Pertwee dressed as his dad for halloween... So awesome:


http://toybox.io9.com/this-is-perfect-sean-pertwee-dressed-up-as-his-dad-for-1653637999/+katharinetrendacosta
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: Reginald McGraw on November 03, 2014, 02:06:58 PM
but not because "What would you do if Jim Kirk came back to TV as a woman?!?!??!"

This is a little different and more like what if there was a Starfleet Captain of the Enterprise who was a woman!?!? Which, of course, there was.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 03, 2014, 02:25:28 PM
but not because "What would you do if Jim Kirk came back to TV as a woman?!?!??!"

This is a little different and more like what if there was a Starfleet Captain of the Enterprise who was a woman!?!? Which, of course, there was.

And that was such an absurdly big deal.

That Jim Kirk quote comes from the sea of backlash I've been seeing today... Wild.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 03, 2014, 03:17:36 PM
People are stupid. They're just made up characters.

On one level, I supposes that's the power of fiction. We get so involved that when things go in a way that breaks up our order of what the story is, we feel anger and grieve and long for the stories that were. (Star Wars anyone?)

The current state of culture is very much effected by gender identity issues becoming public debate and well, the internet. The internet will destroy us if it hasn't already.

A female doctor would be great. The comedy factor alone would be worth it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 03, 2014, 03:42:20 PM
Real Doctor Who fans want Joanna Lumley back:

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 05, 2014, 10:40:03 AM
In the midst of a barrage of complaints (justly so) about the grim theme of Dark Water, Tor's loving review of the episode is a breath of fresh air. They end with:

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I’m calling it now, by the way: best season since the show returned. It’d be that even if next week was 43 minutes of white noise.

I think I may agree. I have complaints about this season... I think they lost their way right out of the gate, and that it was a mistake to ignore the quest for Gallifrey. Though Dark Water's little easter eggs (and other not-so-subtle hints) has me thinking that this season has merely been prologue. When we last saw The master, he was trapped back on Gallifrey -- presumably locked in combat with Rassilon. The actions in Day of the Doctor, though, would have rebooted all of that...and given The Master his chance to escape. I'm expecting Saturday's finale to finally kickstart the quest for Gallifrey -- because the Master knows where it is.

We also have a very important reboot for the Master here -- (s)he has a new TARDIS, technology, and is a serious threat to the universe without the Time Lords lying around to spoil the plans. Fingers crossed that the finale finds Michelle Gomez escaping in the confusion of battle.

Getting Clara out of the picture and giving season 35 a new start, with a new quest and a new companion, is also on my wishlist. We've spent this entire season deconstructing the Doctor, and Dark Water felt like the answer to some of the questions at the start of the season -- "Am I a good man?" Yes, he is. Forgiving Clara's betrayal is only the first step -- how better to exemplify the Doctor's inherent goodness than putting him against his Moriarty in the final reel?

Next week he'll have to face the people he's killed this season. We got a little taste of that already as Danny just did the same in Dark Water. 

Really looking forward to finale country...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 05, 2014, 10:45:21 AM
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 10, 2014, 10:19:58 AM
I have to say...I kind of agree with airlock Alpha's article "Is Doctor Who Running out of Gas?" which I'm pasting below (beneath my equally long review!).

The finale was...lackluster. And it's strange, because Capaldi is great, Gomez is a-fucking-mazing... But it all fell weirdly flat. And worse, it fell flat while also doing a disservice to fans and casually killing some fan favorites. I guess we all figured Danny was toast... That's been telegraphed since the moment we met him, and especially since Listen. But it creates an absurd paradox and sort of invalidates everything we've built on this season exploring his timeline. So if the plan was to kill him (and it was), then why have these weird Danny Pink bottle episodes where his timeline is (as always with New Who) vitally important to the Doctor's own development?

The casual murder of Osgood was way, way uncalled for. It was a clumsy scene designed to show us that the Master was evil -- as if we haven't sat here for 40 years knowing that the Master was evil. Or, even for the new generation, I think we well established an evil Master in 2008-2009. But this episode wasn't for New Who fans, it was for classic fans -- with the ghost of the Brigadier, and an attitude in the script that Capaldi and Gomez are picking up where Pertwee and Delgado left off in their respective roles of Doctor v. Master, the episode demanded that the viewer not only know the 3rd Doctor's history intimately, but all of the fan-wank easter eggs were from the 2nd Doctor's era. The argument that "the fans are running the show" has never been more on target than this season's finale... And it's not really a good thing. An awareness of the past is a great thing -- in the 50th Anniversary and even with Clara's stupid storyline flitting through the Doctor's lives as the "Impossible Girl" it was fine. But it doesn't work when it's devolved to the point of a running gag.

Once again, we get the close-ended finale. Gomez is dead, the Master will regenerate into a new actor. She did a great job, but the only thing that great job showed us was how underused she was this whole season, and how much we'll miss her when they re-man the Master. This time around, the Master had a TARDIS.. she could have -- and should have -- escaped.

The underuse of Gomez is a theme in the Airlock Alpha article -- the lack of a season arc and Big Bad while, at the same time, having a season arc and a Big Bad was weird. All it achieved was to make the audience look for connections that weren't there. And the frustrating thing was that half the shit this season then went unaddressed. We don't know who was behind the Mummy on the Orient Express. The stand-alone episodes were implausible, even in the implausible universe of Doctor Who. Clara was responsible for the events in Listen? The Doctor was behind Time Heist? Nothing came of Into the Dalek except a pointless reference to a 2nd Doctor serial? Et cetera.

We finally -- finally -- get a hint of what this season was supposed to be about: The hunt for Gallifrey. When the Master mentions Gallifrey, the Doctor acts like he's been searching for it all along. That's news to us! Her lie is met with the Doctor having a tantrum, which is a bizarre reaction for a man who spent the entire season doing nothing except catering to Clara. Are we being asked to assume that the Doctor is spending all his time off camera hunting for Gallifrey and we're just tuning in for little side distractions? We want to watch the show where he's searching for the Time Lords!

And Clara... Clara, Clara. Her name came before Capaldi's in the titles, and her face was featured in place of Capaldi's. This, I presume, is intended to fool us because she claims to be the Doctor in the teaser -- a quick, throw-away, meaningless scene where she's obviously just buying time and is quickly defeated.

This little voice nags me that Capaldi is the one leaving in the Christmas episode and that JLC is the new Doctor. This sounds crazy, and no one else is saying it, but there's something deeply wrong with this show and I'm betting on that. We still haven't answered the "Impossible Girl" question, the TARDIS recognizes her, we learn in this episode that she remembers things she was supposed to have forgotten, and, in Listen, the TARDIS took her to the Doctor as a boy -- the safe place. She, seemingly, understood this, and forced the Doctor to leave without asking questions. And let's go ahead and say it -- the mysterious handwriting in "listen" was hers.




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Do you remember what it felt like back in 2005?

We as fans were still on a major high, enjoying the fact that after years of waiting, "Doctor Who" had returned. And boy did it. We loved Christopher Eccleston. We loved Billie Piper. And despite the corny soundtrack and rather questionable special effects for the time, we weren't paying attention.

That's because Russell T. Davies enthralled us with a hidden continuing story arc, the Bad Wolf track, that came to an exciting conclusion with Rose looking into the heart of the Tardis itself, and using it to set up so much more in the Doctor Who universe.

What ever happened to those days? It's sad that less than a decade later, I no longer have the same enthusiasm as I once did for "Doctor Who." And it has nothing to do with Peter Capaldi. In fact, I really like his version of the Doctor, and I accepted him in the role right from the beginning.

What I have not accepted is this pedestrian attempt at storytelling that came to a head this weekend when Steven Moffat and crew completely underwhelmed viewers with a boring Zombie Cybermen/The Master episode that really put a big question mark at the end of everything done so far.

When we first got a glimpse of Missy at the beginning of this season, I had some high hopes that she would be really someone special. I mean, I'm not an expert in classic "Doctor Who," but I do know enough about the history of the show to think of many amazing and awesome possibilities Missy could be. And each time I would share some of those theories, others would come back and say, "No, I bet it's The Master."

And with all those tantalizing possibilities, what do we get? The Master. And a boring one.

Not to say anything about Michelle Gomez, who played Missy great. She did the best she could with the story she was provided, and it just felt ... uninspired.

Even when it was revealed that Missy first connected The Doctor to Clara, and put the ad in the paper, I still was not impressed. This was no Bad Wolf. It was definitely no Saxon. It wasn't even a Torchwood. The revelation that The Master was orchestrating everything made me yawn. And I'm betting I was not alone.

I was talking to a good friend of mine this weekend after watching the episode, who also felt like she was in no hurry to see it, and didn't feel like she missed much when she did. I was trying to recount just aspects of the episode I liked — Gomez, Capaldi, and the wonderful scene between Clara and The Doctor in the volcano, ending with "Go to hell." To me, that was the most moving part of the entire two-parter.

But then I realized something: It was the most moving part of the entire season. I actually went back in my mind and started reviewing all the episodes leading up to this, and it was a bloodbath in terms of interesting story.

Deep Breath
Traditional new Doctor episode, bringing back some familiar characters, and having some fun holding our breath. But nothing really stands out, and some of the interaction between Clara and Madame Vastra seemed forced and unnecessary (like the whole veil conversation -- wasn't Clara in shards, helping the Doctor in many ways? Why would a regeneration be so new to her?)

Into the Dalek
Shared way too much detail about the Daleks. The thing I like about bad guys is knowing as little as possible about them. Think about how awesome the Borg were, even after "Star Trek: First Contact," and then think about how much you liked them once "Star Trek: Voyager" was done with them.

Robot of Sherwood
Hated this episode. Not a single redeeming shred of value to this.

Listen
I really liked the idea of creating some retcon significance to the barn the War Doctor chose in the 50th anniversary special. But that was about it. The rest of the time, I was just confused.

Time Heist
This episode moved at such a fast pace, it felt like it was originally written as a two-parter (or should've been). I didn't buy the end where The Doctor was the one leading everything (and called it right from the start).

The Caretaker
Felt like the writers here wanted to do an episode similar to "School Reunion," which featured the late Elisabeth Sladen, but ended up feeling more like an episode of the children's spinoff to the show — "The Sarah Jane Adventures." I'm all for "Doctor Who" being a family show, but that is still different than being a children's show.

Kill the Moon
The Moon is nothing more than a big egg? That's a horrible idea. and completely uninspired. Also, has anyone noticed that we have had seven episodes to this point, and five of them were on Earth? And then we finally get ...

Mummy on the Orient Express
It was great that the Orient Express came up more than once, and we finally get there. And I really did like this story overall. I liked what the mummy was, and what was needed to fix it. Plus, ticking clocks are great for dramatic effect. This was a highlight of the season.

Flatline
Back to Earth, and while this enemy seemed interesting, the story itself was not.

In the Forest of the Night
Once again, the Tardis becomes Romper Room for kids, who don't seem to care about the mysteries of the Tardis. And once again, people are asked to just forget about something major that happens -- trees popping up everywhere, to protect the Earth from some solar flare. This would've made the film "Knowing" obsolete, which I would give $25 to anyone who could make that true.

Then we get to the finale, and there are really only two trains of thought that I have with this. Either Steven Moffat goes back and focuses on one project (choose between "Sherlock" and "Doctor Who"), or it's time for a break.

In my opinion, BBC made a huge mistake when they pushed forward in the 1980s to keep "Doctor Who" going, when it obviously needed a breather. If it had just taken a few years off after Colin Baker, I think the break from "Doctor Who" would've been far, far, far, shorter than what it was.

Even a short break can do wonders. Look at the break we had in the David Tennant era. Don't get me wrong, I felt the fourth season finished strong. Yes, the Daleks in the finale were not the greatest, but bringing everyone together, and having that wonderful moment of everyone piloting the Tardis made it worth it.

And then we had some specials over 2009, and returned with new episodes in 2010 with a new Doctor, and Moffat on board. That next season was a lot of fun, and right up to the end with the Pandorica and rebooting the Earth, we had a lot of fun.

Even the next season had far more gems than lumps of coal. And it wasn't until we reached the seventh season that the series started going off the rails. I mean, look at "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship" and "The Angels Take Manhattan."

The second half of the season did pick up a little, and the Trenzalore storyline was good (even Clara's revelation was interesting). But there were a lot of duds in that season. And "Hide" was probably the better of the failures (did I mention "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship"? Oh, I did?)

I love "Doctor Who," and I want to keep loving "Doctor Who." And I love Capaldi.

But I don't love these stories this last season, including the finale. And unless we want to go a couple decades without "Doctor Who" again, then maybe it's time to catch our breath, maybe even refreshen the writer team (including the person who is leading it). Let's put in some new ideas. Hell, I would love to see what Jack Kenny from "Warehouse 13" would do with a show like this, even if he is American.

Above all else, let's not have Capaldi turn into Sylvester McCoy -- a great actor for The Doctor, but a victim of a franchise experiencing heavy fatigue.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 10, 2014, 10:43:59 AM
Blastr has a sort of strange article on the gender politics of the finale today. Apparently, this whole female Master thing is making people all squirrelly.

http://www.blastr.com/2014-11-7/good-bad-and-ugly-sexual-politics-missy-being-you-know-who-doctor-who (http://www.blastr.com/2014-11-7/good-bad-and-ugly-sexual-politics-missy-being-you-know-who-doctor-who)

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The good, the bad and the ugly sexual politics of Missy being You Know Who on Doctor Who

Doctor Who is changing in ways it never has before, but is that a good thing? Well ...

Before we begin, if you haven't seen "Dark Water," avert your eyes because SPOILERS.

Last chance ...

So. Missy is the Master. After first debuting on the second of January 1971 one of the Doctor's greatest nemeses has done something he's never done before -- he's become a she. And though there has been talk in the past about Time Lords becoming Time Ladies, it's never officially happened with such a major character.

But is that good? I don't mean for Doctor Who -- I mean culturally and sociologically. Is having a major villain from one of the most popular family programs of the last half century swap genders good for us as a civilization? Don't laugh; I'm serious. Our entertainment, our storytelling is like a stone pitched into the pond of life -- it has ripples. And this decision to regenerate the Master will impact not just Doctor Who but other fiction and actual peoples' lives. So let's talk about it.

THE GOOD

The Master changing genders is another step in the human race acknowledging that gender is not as simple as what a doctor says you are at birth after smacking your behind. Yes, the Master is an alien, and yes, she's not technically the first Time Lord to become a Time Lady. But we all know who the Master is, and that's a big deal. Not everyone knows a person who changes their gender presentation in real life, so the best they have is what they see on television and in film.

You might not think that children watching will be more likely to respect transgender and genderqueer people, but they will be. Just seeing that gender can, in any way, be changed will subconsciously cause kids to take on board the notion that, hey, maybe that's not so weird.

And, yes, that is a very good thing. Accepting infinite human diversity is one of the thematic goals in a lot of science fiction for a reason.

That being said ...

THE BAD

When the Master first returned back in the 2007 episode, "Utopia," he brought something that then showrunner Russell T Davies may or may not have intended -- sexual tension between the Doctor and the Master. Yes, it's no secret that both then-Doctor David Tennant and John Simm are easy on the eyes, but I'm not sure anyone could have expected just how many photo manipulations fans would create pairing the two actors together in very, ahem, intimate ways.

And that wasn't the first time Who fandom had ever considered the notion of the Doctor and Master pairing romantically, either. Even back in the Pertwee/Delgado days, there were fans who saw the potential. And one of those fans could very well have been the very openly gay Russell T Davies, who went on to run the show. With that in mind, it's not surprising that his involvement, plus the advent of the Internet, led to even more people seeing that the Master and the Doctor had a little of that love-hate thing going. And while it was never specifically stated, being surrounded by many other queer characters during the RTD run set a continuing precedent for there to be queer visibility on the show, which was great considering how many LGBT fans Who has had from the very beginning.

So the idea of the Doctor and the Master engaging in epic makeouts? Great! But having the Master become a woman to finally make it happen? Eh. Significantly less great. By requiring a gender change to make this pairing happen, the show is extracting some of the innate queerness of the show.

Remember when Captain Jack Harkness kissed the Ninth Doctor in "The Parting of the Ways," thus saying that, yes, the Doctor's sexuality is probably a little fluid and soldifying the notion that queer folks can play the heroes too? That's the kind of thing a groundswell of fans hoped might happen with the Master, too. But by making the Master a woman instead, we get something that borders a little on queer erasure.

On top of that, the Master forces the kiss onto the Doctor. It's very clear the Doctor wants no part of what's happening, and that's before he even knows the identity of the person who's nonconsensually snogged him.

Yes, the Master is the baddie, but we've already had enough nonconsensual smooching on the show since Moffat took over. Which segues us nicely into ...

THE UGLY

An article about a female Doctor has been written for this very site. And I've written one, too, elsewhere. The overwhelming response to both those articles (and many others positing the same) has been clear -- THE DOCTOR CAN NEVER EVER BE A WOMAN!

And there has, to my thinking, never been a coherent argument as to why, other than "It hasn't happened before, so ...", and that's not terribly compelling. The other argument, "People will stop watching if the Doctor is a woman," is pretty ugly, too. Why would you stop watching? Because women?

I open up that can of worms for a reason -- while some people were equally troubled by a Master-turned-Missy, many more were fine with the change. Which sounds great until you hear the reasons why. The prevailing fan reasons why the Master can be a woman but the Doctor cannot are:

The Master is unpredictable
The Master is crazy
The Master is evil
There's a word for when someone describes an individual as "crazy" and "evil" for changing their gender presentation -- transmisogyny. And that's effectively what's happening here.

Saying the Master is bad and crazy so he can become a she, but the Doctor is good and sane so he would never do the same, carries with it the subtext that trans people are devious tricksters, liars, people of ill will and sinister motivation. In short: They are the bad guys. That's what your brain is intuiting by saying the Master can be a she because of her nefarious character, but the Doctor cannot.

Look, I want to watch Michelle Gomez play the Master and focus on what a great job she's doing. Michelle Gomez could be the best Master ever. But instead of thinking about that, I'm distracted by the knowledge that anyone who doesn't look or act quite like the gender they were assigned at birth has very good reason to be afraid every time they walk out their front door. Because to a lot of people trans folks will never be the Doctor, only the Master. And that is more terrifying than any Cyberman attack.

So, if I'm being honest, even though I want it, even though I think Michelle Gomez is wonderful in the part, I don't think the Master being played by a woman is all good news. But it is necessary if we can ever hope to live in a world where the Master showing up is a surprise twist because she's done something genuinely shocking, which presenting as a different gender oughtn't be.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 10, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Blastr is spot-on regarding the "epic make-outs" comment... Missy has been throwing herself at the Doctor. Hugs, deep kisses, putting his hands on her breasts. The overtly sexual/intimate contact is bizarre. This is one of the Doctor's greatest enemies -- the Master has killed the Doctor once (and was indirectly responsible for killing him a second time). The childhood friends aspect was played up magnificently with John Simm, but when the same language was used here while she humped the Doctor's leg it was just weird and embarrassing. So, okay, your best friend from childhood is now a woman. Does that mean you're immediately having sex? The only lesson there was that you cannot have friends who are a different gender -- a lesson New Who has constantly been giving children. Rose loves the Doctor, Martha loves the Doctor, Donna protests too much about not loving the Doctor, River is the Doctor's long time wife, the TARDIS is female and in love with the Doctor -- his fucking ship! -- Amy Pond loves the Doctor and it fucks up her relationship, Clara feels like the Doctor is her boyfriend and that language is used on screen.

I've been saying this throughout the whole revival -- the Doctor is a 1000 (now 2000) year old alien. He's a grandfather, he had a family. He's survived an apocalyptic war and he's seen the first and the last day of the universe, and all the days in between.

Yes, he's always had a lithesome companion, but he's never been attracted to them -- and this is not strange!   No matter how young the actor, we all know the Doctor is an ancient alien. But instead of the fatherly (or grandfatherly) relationship with his companions, we get something that is just this side of creepy and dangerous -- he loves them, falls in love with them, and we are given the implication that there's more to their relationship off screen.

So besides telling us that boys can never ever hang out with girls as friends, we're also being told, when you look at it in the right light, that it's okay to be preyed upon by older men.

Writing the Doctor is hard when you have to write a know-it-all ancient alien. Capaldi is an attempt to recapture the classic Doctors, but then all we do is replace the 18 year old girlfriend with a 2000 year old girlfriend. The Master's obsession with the doctor has always run deep -- as a nemesis. Not as unrequited love, which is what this season was all about.

It's awkward, childish, insulting, and terrible.

The show is afraid of the Doctor. The show doesn't know how to deal with the Doctor. And this is bizarre to me because the concept is beyond simple -- it's always back to "the madman in a blue box."

I appreciated this season's deconstruction of the Doctor but, in the process, they also deconstructed the show -- at times literally, as in Into the Dalek and the Master and Cybermen in the finale. A sudden, detail-focused intimacy on what makes bad guys tick... And, strangely, the show always falls back on a simple explanation. Daleks are evil because they have a circuit that makes them evil. Cybermen are evil because they have an emotion inhibitor. The Master is evil because she looked into the un-tempered schism. The Doctor is good because he's "not bad."

All of this boils down to another very bizarre lesson from this season -- no one is responsible for their actions, good or bad. (Missy collecting people that the Doctor convinced to die comes to nothing, on that topic.) The 11th Doctor was all about responsibility, as were most of his predecessors. Capaldi's Doctor is a man who washes his hands and allows fate -- or whimsy -- to control him. Paying lip service to whether or not he's a good man is pointless not just because his redemption was the single most important theme in the last two 50th Anniversary episodes, but because nobody is bad. His enemies can't control their actions, and have no free will, and, when the circuits are turned off, they show themselves to not only be inherently good, but greater heroes than anyone who has come before.



 
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 10, 2014, 03:11:11 PM
Under extreme fire for killing Osgood, Moffatt said the following:

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The Master-stroke-Missy would have to kill somebody we liked in the most cruel, heartless, and terrible way to absolutely say that this person is shockingly evil. Osgood was the one we flung in the fire to make the Master burn brighter.

Which gets back to what I said in previous posts. The Master has been evil since 1971. There's no question. There's never been a question. He left a wide swath of death and fire and terror just four years ago. Moffatt might as well be talking about Adolf Hitler.

But he wouldn't be...because, like The Master, you wouldn't have to establish Hitler's evilness. And, yet, here we are... So weak in the storytelling that we need to re-establish a character's traits every single time they show up, seemingly for the sole benefit of the writer's room.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 12, 2014, 05:02:14 PM
Gomez just spoiled season 9! She's confirmed that she (as The Master) will be back next season.

This is good, though, and makes me feel better about the finale...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 17, 2014, 01:55:25 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/doctor-who-showrunner-confirms-peter-749557 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/doctor-who-showrunner-confirms-peter-749557)

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'Doctor Who' Showrunner Confirms Peter Capaldi to Return for Season 9

However, Stephen Moffat said Jenna Coleman was yet to sign up

Peter Capaldi’s 12th incarnation of Doctor Who will run at least two seasons, it was confirmed Monday.

Speaking to The Hollywood Reporter after an event in London to mark the DVD release of the BBC series’ recently completed eighth season, showrunner Steven Moffat said that Peter Capaldi was returning.

"Yes, he’s confirmed,” Moffat said, although he later added that Jenna Coleman, who has played the Time Lord’s companion Clara Oswald for the past two years, had not, something that could fuel rumors in the U.K. press that she is to leave the show following the upcoming Christmas special.

At the DVD launch event, Capaldi, Coleman and Moffat were joined on stage with Michelle Gomez, who played Doctor Who’s nemesis the Master in the latest series, and Samuel Anderson, who played Clara’s boyfriend Danny Pink.

In a Q&A, Gomez said that finding out she was playing the first female incarnation of the Master was “up there with being Hillary Clinton."

Capaldi also revealed that he was initially approached to audition for the part of the eighth Doctor Who in 1996’s unsuccessful TV film reboot attempt, eventually played by Paul McGann.

"But I turned down the opportunity," he said. "I loved it so much that I didn’t want to have the disappointment of going for something that I would never get."

The Q&A followed the world premiere of Earth Conquest: The Doctor Who World Tour, chronicling the cast’s 12-day promotional tour in August that covered seven cities across five continents. The documentary, which focuses on the series’ vast international network of fans, is included with the DVD.

In a separate release Monday, it was announced that ratings for the first 10 episodes of Doctor Who season eight were up 23 percent on season eight in the U.S., without revealing exact figures. The season premiere was the show’s highest-rated premiere ever on BBC America.

In the U.K., the season snared an average consolidated audience of 7.4 million viewers, an increase of 39 per cent on the overnight figures. At an event last week, Moffat denied that there had been a ratings drop and that U.K. viewing figures “are the same” as the previous season when including delayed viewing.

"It's been an outstanding debut series for Peter Capaldi as Doctor Who and I'm very grateful to Peter, Steven Moffat and everyone involved," said Danny Cohen, director of BBC Television, in a statement.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 17, 2014, 02:31:47 PM
Yeah, Capaldi has already said as much.

JLC is being playful. Most agree that there's going to be some sort of final conclusion to Clara's storyline at Christmas. Right now, it looks (and sounds) like it'll be an afterlife happily ever after with Danny bullshit thing...

There are also rumors that the next companion will not be a perky Earth-girl from the modern day.

Either way, there's no way they can keep the lid on changing out companions till Christmas day.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 11, 2014, 10:28:54 AM
RC -- watch this and let me know what happens to your brain.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 11, 2014, 03:27:10 PM
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 16, 2014, 08:28:01 AM
An interview where fans complained about the show turning inot "The Clara Show" saw the Moff reply, "Well, you need to understand Clara better. Clara thinks it's the Clara Show."

Um...okay. Except Clara doesn't exist. You're writing here. You made her. So if there's some grand multi-seasonal plan to reveal something, great. But, man, get to it. God. We don't want the Clara Show. 
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on December 16, 2014, 09:00:38 AM
He's gone George Lucas.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 16, 2014, 10:35:47 AM
He's gone George Lucas.

It's back to the article I cited in the superheros thread -- Doctor Who has fallen in love with itself. The Beeb's been blinded. I don't blame Moff, I blame the whole system that's cashing in on the franchise (the GoTG Honest Trailer also hit this nail on the head in re a studio drunk on its own power and success -- Fuck you, it's Doctor Who. Because, yes. What are you going to fucking do? Watch reruns of Buffy? 
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 30, 2014, 12:36:43 AM
There were so many times I rolled my eyes during Last Christmas that I'm now afraid I caused permanent damage.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on December 30, 2014, 10:39:48 AM
And Clara's back for another season!

Nacho? Stop loading the gun, Nacho.
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Post by: nacho on December 30, 2014, 10:44:35 AM
And Clara's back for another season!

Nacho? Stop loading the gun, Nacho.

Fuck, yes. It was so clumsily done, as well. We basically rebooted her, after spending 90 minutes dealing with her issues. She wakes up with no memory of having dealt with those issues and the Doctor does his now normal (as of NuWho) approach to getting companions -- actively soliciting them like a lonely old man preying on children. Clara decides to become the time traveler she always wanted to be and we're off!

I'm hoping this is a soft reboot of sorts and, in season nine, she'll just be a fucking normal girl and not Magical Clara, or The Impossible Girl, or Maybe She is A Time Lord, or whatever the fuck.

Jesus, though... I think the whole Christmas episode was all about getting Clara back on the team. And we HAAATE HER!! *bang*
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on February 11, 2015, 11:40:32 AM
I love how all the spoilers these days are like -- here's a picture from the location shoot in (exotic place)!

For the first 26 years of this show, they went on location twice. Just imagine if we had the internet in 1980! "Check it out! Shots from the Doctor Who location shoot at the sad abandoned quarry outside Watford!"
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on February 19, 2015, 11:23:14 AM
I love that Michelle Gomez can't keep a secret...

So season 35 opens up with her, and it looks like she'll be another seasonal big bad.

Maybe this show has finally figured out how to use the Master, even though everyone has known how to use the Master since 1973.
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Post by: nacho on April 01, 2015, 04:43:40 PM
So Arya Stark is a guest star next season...and rumors say she's in line to replace JLC. Which would be impossible (unless Arya's soon to meet her demise in Game of Thrones) and would also probably start the geekgasm apocalypse.

Leaked photos show the seal of Rassilon with a wedge missing... Though the return of Gallifrey wouldn't be that much of a surprise (it's been the purpose of the show, whether they admit it or not, since Day of the Doctor).
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on April 07, 2015, 02:41:38 PM
Making a huge deal of this "five more years of Doctor Who" thing is...mystifying.

I mean...of course! The show is a record breaking cash cow.

I guess it's surprising that the renewal was a five year renewal, but even that falls flat with a show that's technically entering it's 35th season. Five seems like a small number for DW!

What I WOULD like to come from this announcement is a plan for NuWho. The last ten years have felt ad hoc. The show's been trying to walk a thin line between the first 26 years where it was a show without a bible and the modern seasons where the audiences demand a narrative. Saying "I am just a madman in a blue box" doesn't work when you have these gigantic, sweeping, multi-season story arcs. You really can't have it both ways with Doctor Who -- either he's involved in the games of gods and men, or he's a madman in a blue box. It seems forgotten that even the classic series struggled with this, and largely adopted the tone that the new series would aim for in its final six years.

We still have multi-season stories on the table (such as finding Gallifrey), but this is a show that rapidly loses its way when it comes to storytelling. The stated purpose at the end of the 50th Anniversary year was finding Gallifrey, yet that only gets lip service for the entire 34th season, and it isn't even coy or tantalizing. It's used to bump Clara in one of the three times they heavy-handedly made it look like Clara was leaving. The Master seems more involved and concerned about Gallifrey than the Doctor, who is just coming off of saving Gallifrey, deciding his mission is to find them, and spending 500 years talking to Gallifrey via The Crack.

Capaldi's "dark Doctor" was so horribly mishandled in season 34 that I can't imagine where we'll go from there. Capaldi is still trying to find his level, and the return of Missy and all the usual Big Bads continues what has felt like franchise fatigue since the 9th Doctor.

What the show needs to do with a five year renewal is to spend a very short time saving Gallifrey, and then return to basics: The Doctor becomes an outlaw in a broken time machine and flits through stand-alone adventures. The Doctor is at his most mysterious and most engaging when he doesn't actually want to be a part of the adventure. This element of his personality has been shifted to his companions, which has resulted in the show being more about the companions than the Doctor. This decade-long study of "the effect that the Doctor has on his companions" is exhausting and insulting. It's not a new idea, either. The classic series handled it with a subtle grace, but the new series addresses it with something just short of exhaustive psychotherapy session transcripts.

And we don't care. Unlike the old series, the new series doesn't force the adventure on the companions. Everyone chooses to join the adventure, and then we spent endless time discussing how doing so ruins your life and changes you forever. So what is NuWho's point here? Free will is wrong? Seeking adventure is a mistake? A dangerous lesson for the generations of children the series is pitched towards.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 12, 2015, 11:01:03 AM
Oh, clumsy clumsy. Fan favorite Osgood was killed by Missy last season...but now she's back in a two parter dedicated to explaining how she's coming back! With the Zygons, and talk about how it's set during/right after events in Day of the Doctor.

Shame, shame, shame... Can we not get plain old space adventures, guys? Do we have to have episodes set within episodes and constant meta freakouts? What happened to the sense of wonder and exploration? Everywhere the new Doctors go they've either been there before, knew they were going there and have a plan, or have a god-like ability to size up and solve the problem.

"All of time and space" is surprisingly small in NuWho.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on May 13, 2015, 09:03:20 AM
NuWHo problems and Nu Star Trek problems are strikingly similar.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 13, 2015, 10:01:48 AM
NuWHo problems and Nu Star Trek problems are strikingly similar.

Nu-Star Trek problems are the same problems that the franchise has had since Wrath of Khan -- it's a cerebral show that's trying to be an action-adventure show because the latter sells movies. Basically, at it's core, Star Trek's worst problem since the movie franchise took off is that it's a slow burn TV series that simply cannot translate to the silver screen.

The reboot era of Star Trek has crystallized the worst of the earlier movie franchise -- it's all light hearted comedy and space adventure now.

NuWho's problems are less the need to make it an action adventure and more the need to make the Doctor something other than the Doctor. These problems also extend back to it's final season and the first reboot, but it's a very different problem than Star Trek. After 25 seasons, the showrunners found themselves finally having to ask the question -- Who is Doctor Who?

This was terribly mishandled by making him The Other, and hinting at larger things. Something that carried into the movie, and then was adopted wholesale by NuWho. The core of the problem is the Doctor's motivations, and the effect his choices have on those around him. Something that didn't matter for a long time, but then they can't create a god and then admit that he's a fugitive from justice and not really in control of everything.

Probably, to put it more succinctly, Doctor Who's problem is that they tried to make it more complicated and post-TNG Star Treky and the center did not hold, whereas new Star Trek's problem is that they're trying to not make it Star Treky and, so, that center does not hold.
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Post by: nacho on May 19, 2015, 05:52:13 PM

Probably, to put it more succinctly, Doctor Who's problem is that they tried to make it more complicated and post-TNG Star Treky and the center did not hold, whereas new Star Trek's problem is that they're trying to not make it Star Treky and, so, that center does not hold.

Ah-ha!

Quote from: Simon Pegg
They had a script for Star Trek that wasn’t really working for them. I think the studio was worried that it might have been a little bit too Star Trek-y.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 20, 2015, 11:59:27 AM
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If you thought the TARDIS was finally safe from any kind of romance between the Doctor and his companion -- what with the arrival of Peter Capaldi as the Twelfth Doctor -- think again. Or, at least, that’s what Doctor Who showrunner Steven Moffat seems to be saying.

Speaking recently at the BAFTA NY panel, Steven Moffat talked about the, erm, "sexual tensions" between the Doctor, and his companion Clara (Jenna Coleman): "We’re in a very different place with the Doctor and Clara in the modern series, it’s been a while since I’ve seen the early stages of the Twelfth Doctor trying to pretend he doesn’t fancy Clara – 'Oh you’re ugly! Disgusting!...Stop looking so good!'"

Adding: "In truth, in most cases with the Doctor he always loves them more than they love him. That’s his story. He’s always besotted with them even though he’s trying to pretend that he isn’t."

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Post by: nacho on May 27, 2015, 11:20:33 AM
So when it comes to bringing back River Song, The Moff says:

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"It entirely depends on whether we've got a good story. It's certainly not ruled out. I have a sort of worry about keeping anybody around in the Doctor's life for too long. Because he's the Man who Leaves. He's the man who outlives everybody: that's his story. In the end it's the boy in his box, and he's alone. In the end if we had a great story, we'd do it."

Strange words from the man who bends over backwards to keep EVERYONE ELSE in the Doctor's life as long as possible and keeps bringing them back even after they die.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 02, 2015, 11:10:21 AM
Psst, Moff -- when you start disliking the show and regretting your decisions, you should probably step down as showrunner.

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When Doctor Who came back in 2005, the show featured a tormented Doctor who was the last of his kind and the sole survivor of an unimaginable war that had ended with the Doctor committing double genocide. Should this have remained the show’s status quo?

Talking to Doctor Who Magazine, showrunner Steven Moffat says he still feels bad about the fact that his 50th anniversary special, “The Day of the Doctor,” changed the outcome of the Time War so that the Doctor no longer wiped out the Time Lords as well as the Daleks. (The Daleks, of course, came back in any case.) Moffat says:

The Day of the Doctor was a success. Record ratings, awards, rave reviews. By any measure, it did alright. But two years later, I’m still haunted by the guilt.

I know some of you, including friends of mine, were upset that we reversed the outcome of the Time War. My defence, however feeble, is that given the chance, the Doctor would do exactly that. And it was his birthday, how could I deny him that chance? What could define him more? This man who always finds another way? And there he is, at every moment of his life, proving to himself – literally – that there is always a better path.

Ah, well. My heart was in the right place, at least. But in this job you always need two!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 07, 2015, 10:59:36 AM
So lots of talk about the new season. Kind of the same as last year (which didn't pan out) -- the "darker" Doctor. The Doctor potentially in the role of "the bad guy." A "complicated and very different" season.

This got me so excited leading up to Capaldi's first season, and it did, briefly, look like we were going to go down that path with the whole "Am I a good man" thing. But the season was mishandled and goofy.

Some little rumors have leaked out, though. The most interesting one is that the season opens with the Doctor killing a young Davros -- and so erasing the Daleks from history. That would result in the return of Gallifrey and the Doctor once again becoming a fugitive.

All very nice but, given that the contract with Nation's estate is unchanged (i.e., the Daleks must appear once a season or else the Beeb loses the rights to them), this is all probably just another red herring that'll get the big reset button at some point in the season.

Also possible, though, that the Doctor simply carries through with the mission he was assigned in his fourth incarnation to slow the development of the Daleks down.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 09, 2015, 08:40:02 PM
Holy shit! I don't know where to begin with this! Daleks, the Dalek City on Skaro lovingly re-imagined, interior TARDIS stuff, Zygons, Arya, Missy...and more!

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 09, 2015, 08:58:48 PM
Thread is now about Michelle Gomez.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 09, 2015, 11:05:42 PM
Thread is now about Michelle Gomez.

Forever and always.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 10, 2015, 10:32:18 AM
With all the Who lore stuffed in your brain, you have to be able to recall someone who called the Doctor "old man" in the past.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 11, 2015, 10:13:07 AM
With all the Who lore stuffed in your brain, you have to be able to recall someone who called the Doctor "old man" in the past.

River Song or Susan. Or perhaps a wild card like Romana. Or she's Michelle Gomez regenerated.
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Post by: nacho on July 22, 2015, 10:51:43 AM
For RC:

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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 24, 2015, 12:32:11 PM
"Like most men, he just flocks to her."

I love her...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 27, 2015, 06:11:50 PM
Oh, God, Michelle Gomez as the mad archaeologist cannibal in The Brink is amazing... And in her underwear!

"I want you to hammer my mouth with that cock and spray the back of my throat with all that monkey spunk!"

I was looking for clips...but nothing yet. Though I did find another Heather's American Medicine episode.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 27, 2015, 07:04:10 PM
I have no idea why she effects me so. If she posted a video that said, "Kill for me, RC," I'd probably go looking for an axe.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 27, 2015, 07:23:06 PM
I have no idea why she effects me so. If she posted a video that said, "Kill for me, RC," I'd probably go looking for an axe.

She's had the same effect on me for 12 years.

Watching someone motorboat her tits on The Brink last night may have been the highlight of my life.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 30, 2015, 04:32:46 PM
Eccleston on why he left:


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/doctor-who-christopher-eccleston-says-why-he-left-the-bbc-series-after-just-one-series-10426107.html

He's already basically said all that in response to the deluge of criticism around the Anniversary.

This will be one of those things fans will debate over the next 50 years. I really want him to come out and say "the show wanted to go in to lonely god loves his 20 year old companions and that skeeved me out."
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Post by: RottingCorpse on July 31, 2015, 10:53:58 AM
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SOMEONE DUG UP AUDIO OF PETER CAPALDI AND CRAIG FERGUSON’S PUNK BAND, THE DREAMBOYS

http://nerdist.com/someone-dug-up-audio-of-peter-capaldi-and-craig-furgesons-punk-band-the-dreamboys/ (http://nerdist.com/someone-dug-up-audio-of-peter-capaldi-and-craig-furgesons-punk-band-the-dreamboys/)
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Post by: nacho on July 31, 2015, 12:29:01 PM
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SOMEONE DUG UP AUDIO OF PETER CAPALDI AND CRAIG FERGUSON’S PUNK BAND, THE DREAMBOYS

http://nerdist.com/someone-dug-up-audio-of-peter-capaldi-and-craig-furgesons-punk-band-the-dreamboys/ (http://nerdist.com/someone-dug-up-audio-of-peter-capaldi-and-craig-furgesons-punk-band-the-dreamboys/)

Oh yes, they had a mini-reunion just before Ferguson quit his show.

Also, a return to Gallifrey is confirmed in the finale. Looks like the finale will pick up where Day of the Doctor ended, from Capaldi's POV. Which either means the Time Lords will get to come back then, or the quest for them will simply begin in the cliffhanger. Probably the latter so they can milk that shit through the 20-teens.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 31, 2015, 01:16:46 PM
The band is pretty good for the time.

And the knowledge that he was part of the British punk scene in it's heyday does give a new edge to his choices as the Doctor, at least from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 05, 2015, 08:40:36 AM
Hannah Hart is hosting all the specials leading up to the premiere.

Man, that girl's star is rising fast.
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Post by: nacho on August 06, 2015, 11:12:21 AM
Today's rumor has the fans in an uproar -- it's being reported that the show will be going on hiatus in 2016. The thinking behind this, dubiously, is that the Beeb wants Moffatt to focus on Sherlock and step down from Doctor Who, but The Moff is being resistant.

Regardless of the behind the scenes politics (he does need to step down), I think taking a break is a good idea. NuWho has become such a frenetic and global phenomenon that it can't simply tick along like the classic show did. It almost develops its own franchise fatigue by the end of each season. I think the 10th Doctor's outro -- a series of lengthy specials versus a regular season -- was brilliantly handled. It gave you Who when you needed Who and always kept you wanting more. It also made Matt Smith's freshman year more interesting, as we were ready for a full season at that point.

I think I can be classified as a pretty die-hard fan and, I have to say, despite that fandom, and my love for Capaldi, I feel pretty exhausted by the show as we veer into season nine. Last season, like so many NuWho seasons, was mishandled. I'd be more forgiving if we weren't facing what appears to be a continuation/conclusion of the meandering season 8.

The show needs to find its roots again, I think. It needs to take a breath and slow down and just concentrate on telling good stories about  someone who really is, very simply, just a madman in a police box and nothing else. 
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Post by: nacho on August 07, 2015, 10:54:18 AM
This is interesting...

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After appearing in a small role in An Adventure In Space And Time, the BBC’s dramatization of the beginning of Doctor Who, Reece Shearsmith will now be making the jump to actual Doctor Who in what Deadline is calling “a special episode.” Mark Gatiss wrote the episode, and he refers to it as “very scary,” but that’s all we know about it except that it will be a part of the show’s new season that starts on September 19. However, this casting announcement is especially notable because Shearsmith played Patrick Troughton, the second Doctor, in An Adventure In Space And Time.

Now, as cool as it would be, this doesn’t necessarily mean that Shearsmith is playing the second Doctor. Deadline says the episode will be “special,” but Gatiss only says it will be “scary.” We assume that if one of the other Doctors were going to appear on the show—even if it’s a different actor playing one of the other Doctors—the BBC would make a big deal about it. It’d put out press releases confirming it, it’d release images of Shearsmith in costume, and it’d do everything it could to let us all know how exciting it’d be. Since the BBC isn’t doing those things, Shearsmith is probably just playing someone who isn’t The Doctor. Still, you never know. He could be The Doctor wearing a disguise.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 10, 2015, 02:50:35 PM
They should get the actress who played Susan to play Susan.
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Post by: nacho on August 11, 2015, 07:46:01 AM
They should get the actress who played Susan to play Susan.

We have yet to answer who the old woman was in The End of Time. We know Susan has a life beyond Dalek Invasion of Earth. It would be really easy and smart to bring her back in, and it would be an awesome thing for the show to do, and we'd all really love it.

But...this is NuWho.

But
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Post by: nacho on August 11, 2015, 08:36:28 AM
Oh!

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Former Doctor David Tennant has been spotted on the set during the filming of season 9.

Though we're revisiting his episodes twice -- The Fires of Pompeii (to stupidly address why Peter Capaldi is the Doctor and also a former one-off character in a Tennant episode, even though that's the nature of the business and half the previous Doctors also had roles in the show before they were cast as the Doctor and nobody wants this to be a "mystery" that needs "explaining") and The Day of the Doctor.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 12, 2015, 04:55:54 PM
Hiding in here is Gallifrey, daleks from the start of the series (and a few classic series models), Skaro, and general awesomeness.


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Post by: nacho on August 13, 2015, 03:59:26 PM
Today's out of control Doctor Who/Who is Maisie Williams rumor is theorizing about her buddies in the trailer -- the lion creature, which looks suspiciously like the Cheetah People from the final episode of the classic series.

Noteworthy that, when last we saw The Master in the classic series, he was trapped with the Cheetah People. So we round back to Maisie being another incarnation of The Master pre- or post-Missy.

(Though they also look like the Tharils, with whom we last saw Romana. Which means this is one huge red herring because Tharils + snarkily calling the Doctor "old man" very clearly = Romana and, therefore, we're being misled and she probably is someone new and kind of boring.)

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on August 19, 2015, 12:58:18 PM
From AICN:

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AGENT CARTER's Hayley Atwell: 'I’d Like To BE DOCTOR WHO!!'

Somebody tweeted “Agent Carter” star Hayley Atwell this weekend asking if she’d like to be on the British family series “Doctor Who.”

Her response: “I’d like to BE Doctor Who.”

The BBC should snap her ass up. I don’t recall any actor who was already the lead in an American TV show before getting tapped to play The Doctor.

She’s already played Peggy Carter in eight episodes of “Agent Carter,” two “Captain America” movies, a Blu-ray short, “Ant-Man” and “Agents of SHIELD.” Another, longer season of “Agent Carter” is on the way.

Were I King Of The BBC, I’d be phoning her agents, before ABC cancels “Agent Carter” and before Peter Capaldi starts moaning about the long shooting hours.

Also, I'd order "Who" showrunner Stephen Moffat to write in a female companion who finds the Atwell Doctor very attractive.

Nacho, you seem opposed to a female doctor. I feel like there could be some exceptional comedic value from the concept.

Though there's an interesting comment on that article that basically say, "Shut up about Elba and Atwell for a bit and let Capaldi do his job." He does seem to have really taken ownership of the role, no?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 19, 2015, 07:29:48 PM
A female Doctor is a problem for me, yes. But then we've gotten so far away from who and what the Doctor is, maybe it doesn't matter? I mean, would you be happy with a female Captain Kirk? Maybe...

Atwell would be a good pick. But you'd have to be at that level of zaniness and pop cultureness. You couldn't, say, put Mirren or someone in there. A female Doctor would be forced to play with the fact that she's female. Much like Michelle Gomez clumsily spent her first episode post-reveal as the Master talking about how she was now a she. That's the real problem. They'd spend a whole season joking and talking about it.

Gomez as a female Master was, simply, wasted because they were so taken with the idea of a female regeneration. Her little mysterious cameos throughout the season were amazing, but then we had to spend one of her only two episodes as the Master going on and on about her femaleness -- kissing the Doctor, grabbing her breasts, catting it up.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on August 28, 2015, 09:25:00 AM
Wil Wheaton showing Capaldi how to fly the Enterprise just might be the harbinger of the Geekpocalypse:

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-08-27/peter-capaldi-learns-how-to-pilot-star-treks-uss-enterprise
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 01, 2015, 06:57:20 PM
Some Michelle Gomez love:

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Post by: RottingCorpse on September 01, 2015, 07:22:11 PM
You buried the lead here: Hannah Harts hosts a Who show?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 01, 2015, 10:34:51 PM
You buried the lead here: Hannah Harts hosts a Who show?

She's been hosting tons of them. We actually talked about this in this thread a page or two ago. The rise of Hannah Hart.

The specials are unwatchable and horrible.
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Post by: nacho on September 15, 2015, 07:07:37 PM


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Post by: nacho on September 15, 2015, 07:23:59 PM
I have a good feeling about this season..


(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/doctor_who_series_9_episode_titles.jpg)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 16, 2015, 09:25:26 AM
Looks like JLC is out this season. It will be nice to put an end to The Clara Show and concentrate on Capaldi.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 18, 2015, 09:40:44 AM
The two minute "prologue" (to the half hour "prologue" airing tonight) brings back the Sisterhood of Karn. Their return pretty much confirms that we'll be getting Gallifrey at the end of all this...and that's the Seal of Rassilon he hands over to the Sisterhood (and that we keep seeing, albeit incomplete, in the trailers).

With JLC leaving by the finale, I have a good feeling about this season. Capaldi seems to have found his groove, The Clara Show is ending, and the Time Lords are coming back (which will end the whole "The Doctor is a Lonely God" BS). It might also mean, eventually, a return to the idea that the Doctor is a fugitive and technically on the run from the Time Lords. I hope so.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 18, 2015, 10:16:39 AM
For RC:

(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/missy1.jpg)

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 20, 2015, 12:44:19 AM
Wow! What a premiere! NuWho has worked 10 years to get to this point... This was the perfect premiere. A Doctor-heavy episode (Clara is hardly a part of it), and the first time NuWho has handled a Classic Series enemy the way he should be handled. Davros as the dying old man showing the Doctor's faults by revising the mistakes of Doctors 4-7. Just amazing. The 4th Doctor's fatal decision in Genesis of the Daleks gets major airtime, and every Dalek casing from the entire series is represented. The reconstruction of the Dalek City from the 1963 episode is perfect and exciting. Michelle Gomez fucking owns Missy. Horribly squandered last season, in this episode she makes the Master her own. There can never be another Master.

The episode demands that you've watched the show. All of the show, for 52 years. But it doesn't demand it too much. It's willing to let you in if you're new to all this. Strangely well crafted, actually. You could get hooked if this was your first episode, and for every level of fandom the episode expertly delivers.

Capaldi sort of skated through last season, as well, as The Clara Show continued, so turning all the spotlights on him and letting Clara become the ordinary idiot companion was a breath of fresh air.

This is the first I've felt good about NuWho since the few, brave moments during Eccleston's season. 

Oh, and, RC, for those of us with a crush on Michelle Gomez. This is our episode. The script and camera simply make love to her.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on September 20, 2015, 10:34:49 AM
For RC:

(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/missy1.jpg)



*smoulder*
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 24, 2015, 09:09:27 AM
You never got stuff like this in the 80s.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on September 29, 2015, 07:30:08 AM
I've been struggling with the second episode, part two of the premiere. It over-reached, it relied on the "regeneration energy" shtick, except in an even more frivolous way. The high point was Missy. Teaming her up with Clara was great, having her be the voice of the classic show and giving us glimpses of early Doctors during her stories seemed perfect... Of course the Master would be obsessed with the past.

As always, the Daleks were softballed...and this would have been a great episode if it really was an outro for Davros but, no, they have to keep him around, too. They have 50 years worth of classic enemies and have created a dozen new beloved recurring enemies...why not go ahead and kill one for good? Because that would have made this episode. That would have been something. And the dynamic between the Doctor and Davros was all about that happening in the final reel, then they decided to get silly.   
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 02, 2015, 03:12:56 PM
More for RC!


(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Michelle2.jpg)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 04, 2015, 12:38:08 PM
Oh my god... Under the Lake was an amazing episode. Up there in the best of NuWho for sure, along with Blink, Dalek, Girl in the Fireplace...

We get ghosts, an underwater base, a touchy TARDIS, and a very Doctor heavy episode. It's creepy and awesome...and probably about as close as NuWho has ever gotten to classic Who. Well, since Impossible Planet/Satan Pit.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on October 04, 2015, 09:44:31 PM
Missy?!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 05, 2015, 07:38:57 AM
Missy?!

She'll be back for the finale.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 06, 2015, 02:52:35 PM
Parsing all the rumors about the possible demise of Doctor Who is a bit difficult... Though I'm so often conflicted by NuWho, I think Capaldi is the direction the show should have been taking and, so, it's a shame to see it suddenly under fire.

Or...is it?

Rumor #1: Viewership is catastrophically down

This is true. But the numbers being reported are incorrect. Once you factor in DVR's and on-demand views (which is how people are watching TV these days), the low numbers almost double. Factor in them doubling again with overseas viewers, especially BBC America (where it's no secret that British TV will soon migrate entirely to the US).

All that said, the numbers are still down... But that's also because the show has been up against some stiff competition and it's still trying to sort out Capaldi's Doctor.

Rumor #2: JLC is leaving under duress.

Well, no, she's leaving to become an even bigger star. This one's stupid.

Rumor #3: DW is getting "Sherlocked" in that it will have an off season that may just have a few TV-movie-style specials.

I don't know why this upsets s many people... Not only did the show do this during the 10th Doctor's run, but I think the show benefited from it. It would be a good thing if the show did a series of specials every other "season."

Rumor #4: Capaldi is leaving.

This has two levels. The first is that he's "heartbroken" about JLC leaving. Which is BS. The nature of the show is that companions leave and, in fact, the show has maintained a tradition of carrying a companion over as a link between regenerations since 1965, so JLC leaving is perfectly natural (and actually overdue).

The second level comes from his interview with Larry King where he talks extensively about the future of the BBC. The ongoing government antagonism against the BBC is a little scary. The Brits want to tear the corporation down (or, at least, stop subsidizing it) and would rather the Beeb go back to weather, news, and propaganda as needed and approved from on high.

While Capaldi intimated that the potential shake-up of an abbreviated or specials-only season may be linked to that, there was no talk about his job being on the line. (However, American audiences are complaining about his accent...)

Rumor #5: Moffatt wants to leave but no one wants to replace him

Even Moffatt laughs at this one. He says he'll leave when he's asked to leave, and notes that just about everyone is anxious to leap into his chair when he's gone. You can write your own ticket i the DW's showrunner.

That said, the show also has a long tradition of producers who wanted to kill it our of some deranged sort of spite...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 19, 2015, 12:29:48 PM
So Maisie Williams is not playing someone familiar. She plays an annoying incidental character designed to spotlight Clara (ugh, stop already) and she dies as a result of the Doctor's usual hubris. This time around, though, he has a magic pill that makes her immortal. So part two, next week, will advance us a thousand years in the future with the ageless Maisie Williams.

Odd that the Doctor never used this magic miracle cure on past companions. If he had this power all along, he could have saved Rose instead of sacrificing himself, and Donna, and Donna's grandfather, and Amy...And any of the other countless people who have died in his name -- the whole theme of last season!

Ah, well. This episode and the last have all been about how the Doctor is defying the rules and changing the timeline to suit him. It's this that led to the death of the Tenth Doctor, and is guaranteed to incur the wrath of the Time Lords (who have been forgotten by the scriptwriters once again).

We're back to the Lonely God bullshit, and I hate it. It's a waste of Capaldi, it's a waste of some very good storylines so far this season, and it's now to this weird meta level where the Doctor is addressing the camera directly and constantly breaking the fourth wall. Bizarre.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 24, 2015, 11:33:16 PM
Oh! A Doctor-only episode! No Clara!

Of course, that was just to spotlight Maisie Williams, who was horrible. But, then, they're also shaping her up to be this season's Big Bad... Which may not be horrible.

Anyway, passable... Some good classic Who stylings.

Next week is the sequel to Day of the Doctor with UNIT and the Zygons.

*sigh*
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 27, 2015, 12:45:16 PM
This really is what the internet is for, by the way.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on October 31, 2015, 11:53:11 PM
I just...I just... I want this. And it's so simple, and so powerful, and it doesn't have to be 1963. It can be 2015.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 06, 2015, 10:22:56 AM
I love the Beeb's response to all the rumors that the show is tanking and soon to be cancelled -- they just renewed it through 2020.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 08, 2015, 09:57:20 AM
So the whole "sequel to Day of the Doctor" was not as offensive as I thought it would be. Clara spent most of the episode asleep, or a Zygon. Capaldi delivered a tearful and powerful monologue. The resolution was fun.

The ratings remain in the toilet, though. So I have this terrible feeling that we're going to see some awesome episode here that no one will watch and then they'll ditch Capaldi for a 25 year old black American woman or something. Because NuWho's audience is evil.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 08, 2015, 11:10:49 AM
Man, but I see the break in fandom so very clearly. AV Club raves about the episode, yet io9 skewers it with ruthless bitterness... Both of them cite the same reasons for loving it or hating it, just through different colored glasses. This divisiveness has marked the whole season. It's fascinating.

Though I really am happy as long as Kate Stewart gets to say "Five rounds rapid!" The fans all need to calm down.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 11, 2015, 09:03:31 AM
The war speech is really making the rounds... And, man, it was a powerful moment in a powerful episode. Capaldi -- the Doctor no one is watching -- is rapidly becoming one of my favorites. The last three Doctors have been struggling with the Time War, and Capaldi's the first actor on the show who could actually do well portraying that trauma and pain.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 11, 2015, 01:13:18 PM
There's been a lot written about Capaldi's punk rock roots, and they are so apparent in this speech. A lesser actor or an actor who had never walked on the outskirts of the cultural social order could have ruined that speech, no matter how well written it is.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 11, 2015, 08:41:06 PM
There's been a lot written about Capaldi's punk rock roots, and they are so apparent in this speech. A lesser actor or an actor who had never walked on the outskirts of the cultural social order could have ruined that speech, no matter how well written it is.

He's the best thing that happened to NuWho.

And the worst!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 16, 2015, 09:06:09 AM
The found footage, POV horror episode was pretty lame. It was more like they were impressed with themselves for mocking the found footage genre than anything else. Like they said: Let's mock the genre and we'll write the story as we film.

Sad.

We're rounding down towards finale country. Maisie the Hybrid, Clara's overly foreshadowed demise, and the return of Missy and Gallifrey (two things that, as usual, seem like they should be the driving series arc at this point and yet don't even get namechecked).
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 21, 2015, 12:46:57 PM
JLC's last uber-cute promo shot. She's rumored to have her swansong on tonight's episode, with Doctor-centric episodes ending out the season.


(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Doctor-Who-Magazine-Clara.jpg)

The preview is chilling:

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 21, 2015, 03:49:26 PM
I don't think they'll kill her. She's been far too popular. They'll keep her alive and utilize her in the same way as River Song.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 21, 2015, 04:14:31 PM
I don't think they'll kill her. She's been far too popular. They'll keep her alive and utilize her in the same way as River Song.

They killed Amy. And, according to Moffat, Clara's timeline hasn't changed. She was dead when she was introduced.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 22, 2015, 01:53:07 AM
I got your text about Clara. Now that you've slept on it, what do you think?

And who the heck is the next companion?
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 22, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
I got your text about Clara. Now that you've slept on it, what do you think?

And who the heck is the next companion?

Besides being thrilled that she's gone? I think they did a good job. They confused Maisie Williams and her role as the Hybrid, though. She's essentially been the Big Bad this season, and her strange promise to protect all of the Doctor's companions has fallen kind of flat. They just simply didn't explore it, explain it, or use it. So having her be upset that her carelessness has killed Clara fell flat.

There's still a bit of an out for Clara here since we know Missy can snatch people from the moment of death (and she's back for the finale, and has a soft spot for Clara). But they took some pains to make it final.

This was her last filmed scene for the show (she's already started filming Queen Vic), but rumor is that this isn't the last time we see her in the series. She still has to come full circle to when we first met her (when she actually died).

The next episode is a Doctor-only episode (and, curiously, he's on a different TARDIS bridge than his TARDIS in the preview), and the finale is being closely guarded.

For the new companion, rumor is we won't meet her (or him) till Christmas. The rumor du jour is also that it'll be River Song (who is in the Christmas special). Though Utopia's Alexandra Roach is now in the running as well.

All the talk about River has me leaning in that direction. Moffatt's been going on about how she doesn't know this Doctor, so she'll become a sort of tagalong Time Lady like Romana I. But all that may be Moff-misdirection.

Moffatt has also said that the new companion is "going to change the tone of the show." So that could be River (who would be a strong, forceful character to pair with a strong, forceful Doctor), or it could be Maisie Williams (who's slightly evil at this point, but may also be working with the Time Lords), or it could just be a man (which we haven't yet done in NuWho with the exception of a few secondary tag along companions like Mickey and Rory).
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on November 30, 2015, 03:54:22 PM
Jackson made a short to announce he's making a full on episode:

http://io9.com/peter-jackson-filmed-a-mini-episode-of-doctor-who-to-an-1745236628
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on November 30, 2015, 11:23:52 PM
Jackson's best work in fifteen years!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 02, 2015, 02:32:07 PM
So the penultimate episode was insane. It smacked of The Prestige -- the Doctor's dead and now his one-billion-times-copied self from the transporter is our hero -- and really sort of delivered a strange mix of "this isn't Doctor Who anymore" and "this is Doctor Who."

I think it could have also been some sort of dream...?

Anyway, the Doctor was transported inside the device he was calling his "last will" all season, and he has to spend a billion years trying to escape, dying over and over and over again.

He escapes to a very calm and settled looking Gallifrey, outside the main city, and there we go. Just like that, the Time Lords are back.

Then, strangely, he implies that he's there to destroy the Time Lords.

The finale is yet another Doctor-only episode set on Gallifrey. The Christmas special is River Song-centric. Not even a whisper of the next companion... And I'm starting to wonder if they're planning to shake things up. What if the Doctor doesn't have a regular companion for a season? That's something Tom Baker begged the showrunners for in the classic series (they only gave him one Doctor-only episode).
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 06, 2015, 12:53:25 AM
That finale was perfect.

1) Gallifrey sorted.
2) The Doctor is the Lord President again.
3) The TARDIS he briefly steals had the 60s control room and it fucking rocked.
4) JLC gets a satisfying ending. Not dead at all... In fact, her eternal future is spent going on adventures with....
5) Maisie Williams is really, I think, some future incarnation of the Doctor. Perfect. Especially since....
6) Everyone is afraid of Missy, and now running from her.

So we'll swallow the Christmas BS and look forward to season 36...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 06, 2015, 01:10:11 AM
AV Club gets it...


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The proper, official return of the Doctor’s people is the culmination of a ten-year story, and it makes sense for audiences to be interested in that, especially when you throw in the season-long arc about the Doctor and the hybrid. But, as the Doctor makes clear in the Cloister, none of that matters to him, at least not right now. Ken Bones is back as the general from the 50th anniversary special, and Donald Sumpter, Game Of Thrones’ Maester Luwin, takes over for Timothy Dalton as Rassilon, the resurrected founder of Time Lord society last seen in “The End Of Time.” The Doctor summarily banishes one of those characters and mortally (or at least regeneratively, giving us our first onscreen regeneration that changes a Time Lord’s race and gender) wounds the other, yet both still feel like sideshows. Gallifrey and its absence have long defined the new series Doctors, yet when he finally makes it home, he doesn’t care. He only cares about saving the life of his best friend, and he will break all of his rules to do so.

...

The Doctor of “Hell Bent” is traumatized and broken, and his inability to let Clara go is what ends up driving the story, even as the entire rest of the universe, Clara very much included, tells him he has to accept the horrible truth.

...

Indeed, the Doctor’s largely silent trip to the Dry Lands and the barn—previously seen in “The Day Of The Doctor” and “Listen”—suggests more about his past and the structure of Time Lord society than nearly anything we’ve seen in the show’s 52 years, even if the show (and the Doctor) says almost nothing out loud.

This I loved. Capaldi is silent for the first 20 minutes.

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Between that treatment and the Doctor’s general conduct once he seizes control of Gallifrey, there’s a good argument to be made that Gallifrey is the one place in the universe where the Doctor can never truly be himself: He can be an old warrior, or a legendary hybrid, or the Lord President, or just a broken old man, but he sure as hell isn’t the Doctor.

...

Doctor Who is great again, and this season represents maybe the best mixture yet of the show’s head and its heart(s).

I love to see the critics embracing Capaldi. This has been a fascinating season. Probably the most complicated, bizarre, and troubling season of Doctor Who. But the show knows where it's going now. It took a decade. But I think we finally just rebooted tonight.

(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/gallifrey.jpg)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 06, 2015, 09:13:24 AM
io9, which has been very hard on this season, also loved the finale:


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I had some mixed feelings about tonight’s episode of Doctor Who. The plot of the episode (and the season) felt severely half-baked, to say the least, and great moments intermingled freely with a certain amount of WTF. But that ending? Was the greatest. That ending retroactively made the whole thing great.

Spoilers ahead...

I’m just going to start out by talking about why that ending was so great, and then work my way back to the rest of the episode. Because when something ends that well, you want to go back and see the rest of the story through that lens.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 06, 2015, 09:17:09 AM
Maisie and Clara's TARDIS!

(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/idzhsgwhmbeodnxcncvr.gif)


(http://www.greatsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/dozacwbgt2u30drdr9cg.gif)
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 15, 2015, 03:38:21 PM
You know...the War Speech. It haunts me. I think it's the moment NuWho changed. Or, rather, I hope that NuWho embraces this moment where it changed...



Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on December 30, 2015, 10:07:21 AM
I think this was the best Christmas special so far. It was basically River Song's final story (or, from the Doctor's viewpoint, her first story).

So when next we see her it's in Silence in the Library, which makes this prequel of sorts (River's timeline is hard to describe unless you've been watching religiously) all the more poignant. The episode was well executed, bittersweet, and gave Capaldi plenty of room to be Capaldi -- he's now been without a companion for three episodes (sort of) and I love it.

Kingston and the Moff both say this is it for River Song. Piece by piece, NuWho is shedding it's skin.

Now...we go to sleep for nine months. Though I suppose we'll get some springtime buzz around the new companion.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on January 22, 2016, 08:23:31 PM
I don't think this is a hoax at all...

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-01-22/doctor-who-showrunner-steven-moffat-quits-to-be-replaced-by-broadchurch-creator-chris-chibnall (http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-01-22/doctor-who-showrunner-steven-moffat-quits-to-be-replaced-by-broadchurch-creator-chris-chibnall)

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Doctor Who showrunner Steven Moffat quits to be replaced by Broadchurch creator Chris Chibnall

Only a Doctor Who Christmas special will air in 2016. Moffat's final series to be broadcast next year in order to create a “huge event” for fans. Chibnall will begin his tenure in 2018

Steven Moffat has decided that his “timey wimey” as showrunner of Doctor Who has come to an end and he will step down as the show’s lead writer and executive producer after six series at the helm, RadioTimes.com can reveal.

Moffatt will hand over the keys to the TARDIS at the end of the next series in 2017 to Broadchurch writer and Doctor Who fan Chris Chibnall.

BBC1 has decided to air Moffat’s final 12-part series - the 10th of the modern era - in spring 2017. Chibnall’s debut series as head writer and executive producer will launch in 2018.

A Christmas special WILL air this year overseen by Moffat, though it is unclear whether Peter Capaldi’s new companion will feature. The companion, who will replace Jenna Coleman's Clara Oswald, will definitely be in place for the spring 2017 series, say BBC sources.

Explaining the decision to hold Moffat’s last series until next year, BBC1 controller Charlotte Moore said: “I have decided to schedule Steven’s big finale series in Spring 2017 to bring the nation together for what will be a huge event on the channel.   2016 is spoilt with national moments including the Euros and Olympics and I want to hold something big back for 2017 - I promise it will be worth the wait!”

It is unclear if the plan is now to make Doctor Who a series which regularly begins its runs in the spring when Chibnall becomes showrunner. “That is all to be decided,” said a BBC source, who pointed out that it began airing in the spring when it was relaunched by Russell T Davies in 2005.

Moffat said of his decision to quit: “Feels odd to be talking about leaving when I’m just starting work on the scripts for season 10, but the fact is my timey-wimey is running out. While Chris is doing his last run of Broadchurch, I’ll be finishing up on the best job in the universe and keeping the TARDIS warm for him. It took a lot of gin and tonic to talk him into this, but I am beyond delighted that one of the true stars of British Television drama will be taking the Time Lord even further into the future. At the start of season 11, Chris Chibnall will become the new showrunner of Doctor Who. And I will be thrown in a skip.”

Moore, who next month takes over a super controller’s job at the BBC, paid tribute to Moffat and welcomed Chibnall into the Doctor Who fold.

“I want to thank Steven Moffat for everything he has given Doctor Who – I’ve loved working with him, he is an absolute genius and has brought fans all over the world such joy,” she added. “I will be very sad to see him leave the show but I can’t wait to see what he will deliver in his last ever series next year with a brand new companion.

“I would also like to take this opportunity to welcome Chris Chibnall, a wonderfully talented writer who I know will bring something very special to the hit series.”

Like Moffat, Chibnall is also a lifelong Doctor Who fan and a multi-award winning writer and executive producer. He has most recently achieved success with the triple BAFTA winning hit ITV series Broadchurch. His other credits include BAFTA nominated The Great Train Robbery, United, Law & Order: UK, Life on Mars and Torchwood.

He said: "Doctor Who is the ultimate BBC programme: bold, unique, vastly entertaining, and adored all around the world.  So it's a privilege and a joy to be the next curator of this funny, scary and emotional family drama. I’ve loved Doctor Who since I was four years old, and I’m relishing the thought of working with the exceptional team at BBC Wales to create new characters, creatures and worlds for the Doctor to explore.  Steven’s achieved the impossible by continually expanding Doctor Who's creative ambition, while growing its global popularity. He’s been a dazzling and daring showrunner, and hearing his plans and stories for 2017, it’s clear he’ll be going out with a bang. Just to make my life difficult."

Polly Hill, BBC controller of drama commissioning, added: “Like Charlotte I would like to thank Steven for his brilliance, which has made Doctor Who a global hit under his tenure.  Chris Chibnall is the perfect successor to take over the reins of this incredible show, so I am delighted that his love for Doctor Who has made it impossible for him to resist !  Chris is an incredible writer and his vision and passion for Doctor Who gives it an exciting future and promises to be a real treat for Doctor Who fans across the world.” 
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on January 23, 2016, 10:50:41 AM
So yes...everyone (Moffat, Capaldi, the Beeb) have been talking about this exact scenario for a year or two.

I think it's a good thing. We'll all be desperate for new Who in 2017. And maybe a breather will mean Capaldi will stick around longer!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on March 22, 2016, 11:43:15 AM
A new companion has been cast though we don't know who it is yet. Capaldi says the casting is very different from any previous NuWho companions. Though that could mean anything -- a man, a child, an alien, a robot, someone from the past or future...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on April 29, 2016, 11:01:31 AM
The new companion is a nobody from the stage. So that's one thing that's "daring and different." Otherwise, another young woman who looks up to the Doctor. All that talk about something new and unexpected for the companion and we get more of the same.

Hopefully she'll be more like the classic companions and there won't instantly be a forced and uber-creepy romantic relationship with the Doctor.


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Season 34 & 35: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 07, 2016, 12:02:07 PM
Oh, god, I have so many Target novels...


Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 31, 2016, 04:18:02 PM
Season 36 starts filming in June, which means absolutely everything will leak before we actually get to see these episodes in late 2017.

The good news is that if Capaldi was leaving then that would certainly have leaked at this point. You can't keep a regeneration quiet.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 14, 2016, 10:51:02 AM
Ugh... Matt Lucas -- who creeps me out, pisses me off, and bores the hell out of me in one big tidal wave of awfulness -- is becoming a semi-regular next season, reprising his role as the head-only that's been trapped inside a robot monster.

Writers announced for season 10 are, worryingly, some of the worst writers of NuWho.

The early rumors make it look like the Moff is going to assassinate the show before his grand exit. And it feels increasingly like he'll be taking Capaldi with him, which is heartbreaking.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 10, 2016, 01:58:50 PM
This reeks of pandering...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3681991/Back-Time-Lord-Steven-Moffat-hints-Matt-Smith-Doctor-star-regenerate-return-series.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3681991/Back-Time-Lord-Steven-Moffat-hints-Matt-Smith-Doctor-star-regenerate-return-series.html)

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Back in Time Lord! Steven Moffat 'hints Matt Smith could be the first Doctor Who star to regenerate and return to the series'

He left the show in 2013.

But Matt Smith could be making a big return to his role as the Time Lord in Doctor Who, as the BBC show's writer and producer Steven Moffat hints at his comeback.

According to The Mirror, Moffat has teased that Matt could be the first of the 12 Doctors to regenerate.

Time to regenerate? Matt Smith could be making a big return to his role as the Time Lord in Doctor Who, as the BBC show's writer and producer Steven Moffat hints at his comeback

Peter Capaldi, who took over the role from Matt, has been rumoured to be leaving after the next series which he is currently filming ahead of an air date next year.

Moffat, who has announced his own departure from next year, has said Matt is 'quite open about how much he misses it, and how much he wishes he hadn't left', according to The Mirror.

He has previous admitted to trying to persuade his 'friend' to stay three years ago, explaining:   'Matt, who was a friend and ally, was leaving. I couldn't get him to stay. It felt like everything was blowing up around me.'

Matt, who starred in the series from 2010-2013, meanwhile has made it clear he'd love to return, telling a fan in April when asked if he would play the Doctor again, 'I really want to.'

Representatives for Doctor Who and Matt declined to comment when contacted by MailOnline.

Matt has moved onto to multiple big and small screen roles since leaving the Tardis behind, including a starring part as a young Prince Philip for upcoming Netflix drama, The Crown, alongside Claire Foy, who will play Queen Elizabeth II.

He is currently appearing in the London's Royal Court Theatre play Unreachable, where he was joined by fellow Doctor Who star Billie Piper for the production's press night on Friday.

Unreachable is directed by Anthony Neilson and produced by Chloe Lamford, with costume design by Fly Davis, lighting design by Chahine Yavroyan and sound and composition by Nick Powell.

The show, which will be the Royal Court Theatre from 2 July to 6 August, centres around an obsessive film director, and was created by the company while in the rehearsal room.

Matt Smith stars in new play 'Unreachable' at Royal Court Theatre
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Post by: nacho on July 10, 2016, 03:01:46 PM
Reading between the lines, it's really just talking about a multi-Doctor story. Which was all the rage in the classic show, and has become so again after Day of the Doctor.

Also, if Capaldi was leaving, we'd know it by now. They're halfway done filming. Everything else has leaked! Missy's back, the usual Big Bads are back, etc.
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Post by: nacho on August 05, 2016, 12:25:37 PM
The missing episodes rumors return! This time based off of two interesting facts:

The first is a film convention on August 27th which will feature the primary missing episode hunter and a well known film restorer. Odd to have those two together. (Though this could be for one of the many other TV show missing episodes Morris recovered along with Doctor Who.)

The second is the Beeb's vague announcement about an anniversary release of episodes on iTunes in November. (Though this is probably just one in a long line of vague announcements from the Beeb and will probably just be the currently available episodes getting a streaming dump because they want to phase out the DVDs.)
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Post by: nacho on September 07, 2016, 11:01:01 AM
Lots of Who news!

First off, we're getting an animated Power of the Daleks. It's the first episode of the Second Doctor's tenure. On paper, and in audio, it's simply amazing. The show has not only saved itself by inventing the regeneration shtick, but now they have to deal with it in narrative. Two shocked companions join the newly young and slightly unstable Doctor as they're thrust into one of the darker and more frightening Dalek stories.

Animation has been used in the past to bridge some lost episodes. They've always done a very poor job. Almost Clutch Cargo style animation. I'm hoping there's a bit more life to this since all episodes of the story are lost.

Meanwhile, Season 36 gets a premiere date in April. We'll see Capaldi at Christmas and he'll be in the premiere of the spinoff Class, which starts this month and is being billed as "the next Buffy the Vampire Slayer."

Moffatt, meanwhile, has become downright maudlin as he enters his final days as showrunner. Saying he's leaving because he couldn't stand watching actors leave. Wah wah.
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Post by: nacho on September 07, 2016, 02:15:57 PM
Oh!

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Post by: nacho on October 08, 2016, 12:41:36 PM
So the only reason Class is getting any traction is because we're all starved for new Who.

The Beeb knows this since the Class teaser is just Capaldi:

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Post by: nacho on October 08, 2016, 01:05:59 PM
And the first Christmas teaser. With creepy Matt Lucas. Blah.

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Post by: nacho on October 10, 2016, 07:26:01 PM
More Class:

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Post by: nacho on October 25, 2016, 04:13:07 PM
So "Class" is a disaster and getting panned by pretty much everyone in the Nerd-o-sphere.

Which...isn't surprising. At all.

I get that they want to capitalize on the Doctor Who thing, but NuWho has been crippled by the inability of the show to understand the audience. Is it kids? Is it die hard fans? Is it any of the four generations of viewers who love the show?

So here's an idea: You've got 97 missing episodes. Many of them are amazing fucking scripts. If they're so desperate to make a spin off, then here's the real secret -- those four generations of viewers ALL want the Doctor in his TARDIS.

I keep thinking of how perfect An Adventure in Time and Space was. David Bradley just died on GoT, bring him back as the First Doctor! Get Shearsmith in as the Second Doctor. Let's get remakes of the lost episodes during the off seasons.

Or just give Michelle Gomez her own show.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on October 25, 2016, 05:04:39 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/73/c7/50/73c7507f356d8690ddd645a04afd8d25.jpg)
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Post by: nacho on October 25, 2016, 06:31:03 PM
God, I love her.
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Post by: nacho on November 06, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
Episode one of Power of the Daleks is up today. I'm waiting on the DVD... But everyone is raving about it. It's really just because the fans are so desperate, especially for this Holy Grail of episodes, but I love to see buzz and success for classic Who.
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Post by: nacho on December 15, 2016, 10:18:18 AM
Jesus... I'm the sort of super fan you'll only meet once in a lifetime, but even I'm starting to wonder if bringing Doctor Who back was really a good thing...

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We knew that Matt Lucas’ Nardole, who first showed up in “The Husbands Of River Song,” was going to be in more than one of the new Doctor Who episodes. But now we have a few more details about what he’s doing and how long he’s staying.

After a screening of the Christmas special, Lucas said, “You’re stuck with me for a little bit” and said his character was more of a “valet” than the traditional companion. He added that, over the course of his episodes, “You learn a little bit more about me and I’m a bit of a thorn in [the Doctor’s] side. I have a job to do, but I think [the Doctor will] regret giving me that job.”
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Post by: RottingCorpse on December 15, 2016, 08:50:32 PM
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Post by: nacho on December 16, 2016, 08:46:03 AM
Wow. What a stinker.
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Post by: nacho on January 06, 2017, 10:47:06 AM
So...I still haven't watched the Christmas Special! Not have I bothered to check out the trailer.

The Americanization of Doctor Who worries me. The special bombed in the UK, but was a mega hit on BBC America. It was also set in NYC. The Beeb has been trying to make Doctor Who an American franchise for years now, but it sort of misses the point, no? The core fandom loves the show for it's Britishness! Or...maybe not. Hard to tell if ratings are being driven by nostalgia and nostalgia-heads teaching their children the same or if there's actually a new audience coming to the show. (And the latter sucks because they'll spit on the first 40 years of the show).

I think pulling their punch on killing Jenna Coleman really put me off. Not only did they pull their punch, they spent three episodes writing their way out of the punch! Come on, people. Companions have died before. It's okay. It's also 2016, where main characters on shows die all the time. Gina, on Brooklyn Nine Nine, just got hit by a bus!

Anyway...blah.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on January 06, 2017, 12:12:51 PM
The Americanization of Doctor Who worries me.

This reminds me I have lots of hints say about the new Harry Potter spin-off film, and how I've decided Rogue One isn't really a Star Wars movie. (Where the new Harry Potter movie *is* a Harry Potter/Wizarding World movie

But Harry Potter is also insanely British, and what fans love sou it is insanely British as well. The new movie brings the mythology to the U.S, but it was written by Rowling and directed by David Yates, both Brits. They seem to know that keeping it British is what makes it work. (Even if they misrepresent American attitudes a bit.)

Who is following the money. Brexit and Trump as souls sisters, remember?
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Post by: nacho on January 14, 2017, 10:42:34 AM
Finally cowboyed up and watched the Christmas Special.

My god...the pandering to the American audience is obscene. And something I don't get. The show has a solid, multi-generational fanbase upon which they've spent ten years building and building a new generation. Is this a "the world is not enough" syndrome? A parallel to politics? They're making a bid for 100% world audience participation by walking some sort of imaginary middle road that destroys all humanity and integrity?

I hope Moffatt's departure will change this show. And I hope Capaldi stays...because he's the only good thing.

I can't tell if the "privatization" of Doctor Who (the cashing in on, marketing of, and global spreading of) is what hurts the show or if we're in a sort of transitional period where that's the inevitable fate of NuWho (and, potentially, a good thing, once it transitions to...whatever the fuck they're trying to transition it to.)

But, of course, Doctor Who was always a lucrative global freakout. It's just now that the Beeb is able to hide behind profiteering shell company alter egos like BBC America and actually enjoy the phenomenon.  So I'm thinking the last 10 years of the Beeb is sort of akin to that college kid from Amish country who discovers alcohol and drugs.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on January 31, 2017, 10:44:00 AM
Well... there it is.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/peter-capaldi-is-leaving-doctor-who-1791795605

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Peter Capaldi Is Leaving Doctor Who
 
It’s time to say farewell to the latest incarnation of the world’s most beloved Time Lord: Peter Capaldi has officially announced his departure from Doctor Who at the end of the current series.

Capaldi, who plays the 12th incarnation of the Doctor, joined the series for its eighth season in 2014, but this year’s season 10 will now be his last in the TARDIS, and Capaldi will depart during the 2017 Christmas Special. The news was just confirmed by the BBC on social media this afternoon.

Capaldi is not the only Doctor Who talent departing at the end of the season—showrunner Steven Moffat, who’s been in charge of the series since 2010, will leave with Capaldi at Christmas, replaced by Broadchurch’s Chris Chibnall. The BBC had asked Capaldi to stay on after Moffat’s departure, but clearly, the actor has declined. His full statement has now been released by the BBC, and you can read it below:

One of the greatest privileges of being Doctor Who is to see the world at its best. From our brilliant crew and creative team working for the best broadcaster on the planet, to the viewers and fans whose endless creativity, generosity and inclusiveness points to a brighter future ahead. I can’t thank everyone enough. It’s been cosmic.

The 10th season of Doctor Who is set to air on BBC One and BBC America this April.
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Post by: nacho on January 31, 2017, 10:52:37 AM
Such a fucking shame. This is all political, as well. The Beeb is going insane trying to figure out how to rebrand Doctor Who (see my previous rants about how greed now controls them).

Capaldi was the best thing to happen to NuWho, but also clearly illustrated that the Beeb doesn't know what to do with NuWho. They misused him, they're disgracing the show, and the next steps are going to be a backlash politically correct Doctor (minority or female) that'll be more about how "Oh, you're now black" or "You're now a woman" than simple storytelling regardless of race or gender.
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Post by: nacho on February 06, 2017, 12:06:31 PM
At least the show is doing one thing right:

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Post by: RottingCorpse on February 06, 2017, 12:17:28 PM
She makes me feel funny. In a good way.
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Post by: nacho on February 26, 2017, 12:50:59 PM
So...takeaways:

1) We're companion heavy...again. Why the fear of Capaldi, Moffatt?

2) He's in The Library. Since the Christmas special was all about him mourning River Song, then even money says this whole goddamned season will be about rescuing River. Blah.

Anyway...


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Post by: nacho on March 07, 2017, 01:59:25 PM
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Doctor Who Is Bringing Back the Original, Hellishly Creepy Cybermen From the '60s

So this is fine as long as it's an actual thing and not a retread of idiotic Asylum of the Daleks fan service.

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--PUroF-WE--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/mmavlmljky36aqgfpxyf.png)



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Post by: nacho on March 14, 2017, 11:24:24 AM
Hmmm... A little better. Daleks, Missy, and a return to the Tomb of the Cybermen (which would make these the Telos Cybermen who definitely have an axe to grind with the Doctor).

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Post by: nacho on April 01, 2017, 10:07:20 AM
News that Pearl Mackie's character is gay is both refreshing and alarming.

It's refreshing because, after 10 years of NuWho, there will FINALLY not be a romance angle between a 20 year old woman who's never left a London ghetto and a 1000 year old alien who may also be a god who has experienced everything.

Alarming because they'll ham-handedly make a big deal of their diversity that, with NuWho's writing standards, will be just shy of Moffatt sitting on a stool and speaking directly to the camera about how impressed we should be.

Also alarming because I fully expect the 13th Doctor to be played by a woman and then...we'll full circle to the romance angle. No escape.
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Post by: nacho on April 03, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Rumor du jour is that Mackie is leaving with Capaldi. Sub-rumor du jour is that the first post-Moffatt season is going to be a full-on reboot.

But, then, technically, this show has rebooted itself 13 times. It's kind of the whole point.
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Post by: nacho on April 04, 2017, 09:28:41 AM
A regeneration tease. Even money the Master kills the Doctor again.


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Post by: RottingCorpse on April 04, 2017, 11:40:10 AM
Gooooooooomez.
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Post by: nacho on April 05, 2017, 08:32:54 AM
Apparently there's a giant twist at the end of the first episode. The rumors are all over the place: From Capaldi leaving the show earlier in the season rather than at the end to Jenna Coleman coming back to the show.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on April 05, 2017, 10:41:53 AM
Everybody needs to get over JLC.
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Post by: nacho on April 05, 2017, 11:07:22 AM
Everybody needs to get over JLC.

This is the result, really, of elevating the Companions to a degree where they steal the show. NuWho isn't about the Doctor, it's about his young Companions and all of their family issues and reactions to their changing lives.

And that's the heart of NuWho's problem right there -- the characters we're forced to bond with are the traditionally (and still) reactive Companions. The Doctor is simply a foil for them. But their whole nature remains to be the people who ask the questions for the audience and help the story move along. It's Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead syndrome, except not well done. Or maybe like making a show called Superman and then focusing solely on Jimmy Olson.

In Classic Who companions would just get written off. They'd go back to their lives, having had this nice little adventure. But NuWho has no idea how to send Companions home. That's the weirdest part: Rose had to get lost in an alternate dimension, Martha's life is ruined and she becomes a pseudo-Doctor type in UNIT, Donna's memory is erased and if she does remember she'll die, Amy "dies" but also lives happily ever after, ditto Clara...

This is also a part of the "Lonely God" motif of NuWho -- another major problem.

We should be focused on the Doctor. But the Doctor has become such a flat character. They stripped Eccleston's Doctor so bare he quit in a huff. Tennant did make the role his, but then Smith seemed to get a memo telling him to steer the course... And Capaldi's been the same. A certain subset of fans were really happy to see an older, alien, brooding Doctor in the role, but we didn't actually get an older, alien, brooding Doctor. We got a Smith/Tennant mash-up who briefly wore Classic Doctor Who clothes before switching to a hoodie.

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Post by: RottingCorpse on April 06, 2017, 01:45:46 PM
Been announce casting call for a new doctor and they're looking for a "male in his mid thirties." The Internet is in fire.

I think it's misdirection.
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Post by: nacho on April 06, 2017, 02:57:45 PM
Been announce casting call for a new doctor and they're looking for a "male in his mid thirties." The Internet is in fire.

I think it's misdirection.

At this point, the new Doctor is decided on. Especially if it's happening sooner -- but still true if it's happening at Christmas. They'll be filming the Christmas special in a few months, and they'll probably announce the new Doctor at the end of the season (June). And they don't do last minute with this show (assuming it's a peaceful transition with the actor -- something that didn't quite happen with the 6th-7th Doctors and the 9th-10th). Capaldi knew for the better part of a year before his announcement, as did Smith.
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Post by: nacho on April 06, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
Well... Bad news, RC. They're rolling back the Master's regeneration to John Simm. Bye-bye Missy.

This worries me because I subscribe to the rollback to David Tennant theory for the Doctor.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on April 06, 2017, 09:31:35 PM
It's The Sun, but here's the Who article driving everyone batty.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3251872/doctor-who-bosses-set-their-sights-on-a-male-actor-in-this-thirties-to-play-the-next-time-lord/

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Doctor Who bosses set their sights ‘on a male actor in this thirties’ to play the next Time Lord

TDR
RUMOURS have been swirling for weeks about who will take over from Peter Capaldi as Doctor Who but it definitely won’t be a woman according to new reports.

There had been reports that the next Doctor could be a woman with the likes of Olivia Colman, Tilda Swinton and Phoebe Waller-Bridge all being linked to the role.

However, hopes of a woman Doctor have been dashed as The Mirror reports that the BBC want to bring the show back to the “glory days” of David Tennant and cast a “male actor in his thirties” to take over from Peter.

A source said: “A lot of younger fans have been lost in the last few years, especially young females and the gay male audience.

“The revenue from merchandising has nose-dived and they want to rectify this by casting someone in the mould of David Tennant .”

Meanwhile, The Sun exclusively revealed that the new Doctor Who sidekick Pearl Mackie had been axed after just one series.

A new trailer for the upcoming tenth series of the show included a soul-sucking soldier, terrifying aliens and a new assistant but will the Doctor make it to the end of the series?

Peter announced his last episode would air on Christmas day 2017 but the trailer hints the regeneration might happen sooner than expected.

With 12 episodes planned, the series finale is due to air at the beginning of July, months before the Christmas special where historically the character regenerates.

The tell-tale signs come right at the end of the trailer where the Doctor can be seen clutching his chest in pain, as the golden regeneration energy covers him.

However, fans are sure to speculate that this is a red herring and it wouldn’t be the first time that Dr. Who showrunners have added a fake regeneration to keep the audiences gripped.

Back in 2008 when it had already been announced that David Tennant was to leave the show, an episode midway through the series had Tennant’s Doctor regenerate back into himself.

Doctor Who’s tenth series begins on April 15 on BBC One.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on April 07, 2017, 01:24:44 AM
The Sun reporting on an article from The Mirror.

That's almost a double negative.
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Post by: nacho on April 16, 2017, 07:27:01 AM
The Pilot was not bad. Pearl Mackie is refreshingly old school, as was the story. It was mainly an intro to Mackie's new companion... But as a quiet little standalone episode, it was fine. And we got our Daleks out of the way for this season, so that was nice.

Meanwhile, rumors are flying that (a) Kris Marshall (terrible pick) is the new Doctor and (b) Capaldi is leaving the show very soon.

Capaldi has confirmed that he filmed his regeneration scene, so we may indeed be in for a spring surprise.
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Post by: nacho on April 18, 2017, 01:37:28 PM
Hot mess inbound!

Two Masters! Classic Cybermen! The Doctor's regeneration!

(Nacho theory: The Doctor does regenerate sooner than expected and much of this -- 2nd Doctor era monsters and John Simm's Master -- are flashbacks. We get these Jacob's Ladder style flashbacks for most of the season, and they may already be happening, which is why Pearl Mackie is also leaving this season -- i.e., she doesn't exist.))

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Post by: nacho on April 18, 2017, 03:13:57 PM
Today's mad rumor is that David Bradley is reprising his First Doctor from An Adventure in Space and Time in the Christmas special.

Ever since the 50th special, I've been convinced that they should do a spin off with Bradley and recreate some of the lost episodes. Maybe we're a step closer to that!
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Post by: nacho on April 20, 2017, 08:36:54 AM
The Beeb confirming no female Doctor only in response to an angry homophobic letter from some far-right country bumpkin wasn't too cool.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on April 20, 2017, 11:22:33 AM
Oof. Link?
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Post by: nacho on April 20, 2017, 11:30:04 AM
Oof. Link?

Here:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/19/a-bbc-complaints-officer-went-rogue-and-told-fans-there-would-not-be-a-female-doctor-who-6585242/

And on the rest of the internet.
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Post by: RottingCorpse on April 20, 2017, 03:40:10 PM
I'm in L.A. where if it doesn't happen here, it doesn't happen.
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Post by: nacho on April 20, 2017, 04:03:48 PM
I'm in L.A. where if it doesn't happen here, it doesn't happen.

You know, that was a fascinating realization when I was at AWP last year. It was like living inside the Beltway except there truly was nothing outside the Beltway. So it's all like, hey, new sushi place. Hey, they're cleaning the Hollywood sign. And I was like, hey, it's almost election time! And the reply was: Huh? E-lect....? What?
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Post by: RottingCorpse on April 20, 2017, 05:55:12 PM
It's like an alien world.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on April 25, 2017, 10:34:36 AM
"Smile" was interesting. It felt like a classic series episode in that nothing happened for the first couple acts. Except, in this case, that was done so we could explore the relationship between the Doctor and Bill. And poorly done, too, because then the final act was a messy race to tie everything up.

Exploring a relationship between the Doctor and a Companion is also a mistake. We're supposed to be thrilled that Bill asks questions "that the audience always wanted to ask" like how much does the TARDIS cost. Ummmm... A sentient machine made by a race of gods? On a show that's been in the public conscious for 54 years? That's actually not the question the audience is asking.

But, oh well.

Rumor is that Pearl Mackie got herself fired because she was a nightmare on set, thus her one season. She's not even carrying over to the Christmas special. So that also makes everything seem a little hollow.

Overall, though, Capaldi is the sort who can carry any story on gravitas alone. So I was fine with "Smile." And also reminded how fucking awful NuWho is and how we're probably doomed because the next Doctor will either be a publicity stunt or a dud.
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Post by: nacho on May 16, 2017, 07:41:11 AM
Okay...so people are raving about this season, but it's really a hot mess. The show is, again, obsessed with the companion, with Bill-heavy episodes and the Doctor bizarrely distracted by her well-being while not caring about or even outright sacrificing everyone else to keep her safe (implying, once again, that the companion is a Special Mystery Girl).

This is even more hollow knowing that Mackie leaves this season and there was bad blood on set. 

The episodes are lame. Either safe-zone stuff like the Doctor and his Scooby Gang vs. a haunted house, or what critics are lauding as "Classic Who" style -- fighting zombies on a space station. In the latter case, though, the episode was an overcrowded, disjointed mess that failed on almost every level.

The "fun factor" of Classic Who is missing. But the fact that NuWho has no soul is an old complaint at this point.

I feel like the departure of Moffatt may be the last hope for this show. Will season 37 be new blood? Or have the Moff's problems actually been BBC's problems? As in, they're the ones forcing the path of NuWho in the interest of marketing?
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Post by: RottingCorpse on May 18, 2017, 10:35:38 AM
Rick and Morty is what you want NuWho to be.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 18, 2017, 11:02:37 AM
Rick and Morty is what you want NuWho to be.

All I ask is that they fucking lay off the fucking "Special Girl" Companion angle. Why can't the Companion just be some ordinary person who gets swept up in an adventure? That's a trope that's as old as the written word...for a reason! Because we all want to be swept up into an adventure!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 19, 2017, 02:08:34 PM
With Missy leaving, rumors that Susan is in the Vault, and hints (in the latest episode) that Nardol is a Time Lord, I feel like we're screaming into some sort of bizarre show-killing full-on reboot.

I'm hoping we have a blow-out here and then the show takes a break for a bit. I know we have to stomach the Christmas Special, but... I don't know. I just want Classic Who back, I guess. Just give me an adventure in space and time!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on May 21, 2017, 01:08:50 PM
Okay, so Missy's in the vault. And, like in the 90s TV movie, the Doctor is once again the guardian of the Master's essence after an execution (which he botched on purpose).
 snorebot!


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Post by: nacho on May 23, 2017, 12:31:15 PM
So I love the fan theory that John Simm is actually the 13th Doctor. Instead of a multi-Master episode, we're getting Capaldi regenerating into Simm.
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Post by: nacho on May 30, 2017, 10:29:38 PM
So, the show has been officially renewed... Um... Through 2022. So that's interesting.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 06, 2017, 12:49:36 PM
Whew... Lackluster and lazy best describes this season. Mackie -- the companion to change all companions -- is not only exactly the same as her NuWho predecessors, she even gets the exact same storylines. Capaldi is so underused it almost seems like it's being done to spite us. The storylines are convoluted and idiotic. We even get a complete regeneration tease followed by Capaldi essentially saying "Psyche!" and laughing about it.

Missy is a shining light in all this mediocrity, but she's literally trapped in a cage and crying about how bad a person she's been for...the last 1000 years.

We're almost done this sad sack of a season, then we should start getting news about the 13th Doctor. 
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 13, 2017, 09:10:40 AM
So the 13th Doctor has been cast. It's still up in the air if Capaldi is staying through the end of the season. They've been ham-fistedly staging fake out regenerations just because the show is run by fucking assholes, so who knows. Only a couple episodes left, though.

The cryptic promise that "this will be a different sort of regeneration" is also muddying the waters (fair bet that they'll do a Watcher thing, like they did for the 4th Doctor).

Though the last episode did end with Missy at the helm of the TARDIS and the "crack" open once again, so maybe the Time Lords will get to kill the Doctor again.

Blah.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on June 13, 2017, 10:25:38 AM
The fake regeneration thing is really a dick move unless it has some kind of narrative implications.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on June 13, 2017, 10:40:40 AM
The fake regeneration thing is really a dick move unless it has some kind of narrative implications.

They literally laughed about it on camera. The narrative was that he was testing Bill's loyalty. This test culminated in her shooting him with blanks. He collapses and does the below fake out, then they all have a hearty laugh about it and move on to destroy the baddies. Bill is unfazed by the whole thing, except her initial horror at shooting him. In fact, she blames the other companion for misleading her in a comic scene tied to the several minutes of laughing about the stunt.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: nacho on July 02, 2017, 11:05:16 AM
So I guess I have to talk about the finale and the end of the Capaldi era. The 90 minute finale saw a mass-kill (except for fucking Nardol). Both versions of the Master dead, the Doctor dying, Bill dead (though, like Clara, she gets a magical out).

Capaldi's stalled regeneration was pretty awesome, and the big reveal at the end (David Bradley reprising his role as the First Doctor -- himself on the verge of a regeneration after the events of The Tenth Planet) was all pretty awesome. So hopefully the Christmas episode will be the two Doctors passing the torch to the 13th Doctor and we can go ahead and reboot into a better era of NuWho.

I really hated that they pulled their Cybermen punch. After introducing the wonderfully creepy OG Cybermen, they quickly reverted to the modern NuWho Cybermen and hand-waved the explanation. Sad.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: Seasons 34-36: The Capaldi Years
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 02, 2017, 01:09:30 PM
Funny, I spent some time yesterday watching Who videos and reviewing the 50th anniversary thread.
Title: Re: Doctor Who: NuWho Thread
Post by: nacho on July 15, 2017, 08:34:39 AM
Made this the general NuWho thread!

Number 13 will be announced at the end of the Wimbledon men's final tomorrow! Set Internet to MELT.

Top bets (who have all fervently denied their involvement) are Fleabag's Phoebe Waller-Bridge, stupid fucking Kris Marshall which would be the worst thing ever and probably who it is, David Harewood from Homeland, Natalie Dormer taking on her first non-nude role, and Tilda Swinton.

New showrunner Chris Chibnall, who brought us the weak and boring Broadchurch, has allegedly been given carte blanche to hard reboot the show and move it away from the apron strings of NuWho. Most fans are certain 13 will be a woman and we won't see the regeneration (the Christmas Special has finished filming and there is, supposedly, no regeneration sequence, but that could be lies).

Title: Re: Doctor Who: NuWho Thread
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 16, 2017, 02:05:54 PM
All right, Nacho. Give us the big analysis on the new Doctor.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: NuWho Thread
Post by: nacho on July 17, 2017, 12:04:52 PM
Mainly just thrilled it's not Kris Marshall. But, yes.. Thoughts coming soon. Stuck on my phone here at work...
Title: Re: Doctor Who: NuWho Thread
Post by: nacho on July 17, 2017, 05:19:46 PM
So I was initially opposed to the idea of a female Doctor. It did seem like wrong-headed PC-ness on the part of the Beeb which has, in the last couple of seasons, been trying too hard with wrong-headed PC-ness. Bill’s LGBT angle was so heavy-handed and unnecessary. A badge of honor for the Beeb without any understanding or sensitivity behind it.
 
But then Tilda Swinton’s name was rumored to be in the mix and I thought, my god, yes! She’d be perfect! The show has also been planting the seed for a couple years now. Michelle Gomez has so perfectly delivered the Master’s gender-change that it almost felt weird to have a male Master show up in the finale. In what is probably just an accident, the show handled such a gender change in the best way – the Master felt like it. Tra-la-la.
 
Colin Baker’s wonderful Guardian article (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/17/colin-baker-doctor-who-female-lead-doctor-jodie-whittaker-inspire-fans) says it all.
 
What helped put all this in focus for me: When Kris Marshall emerged as the front runner, I was worried. He would have been the “safe” pick – and I would have been insulted by that pick. Another white male hamming it up on screen. There’s been a cookie cutter aspect to all of the NuWho Doctors, even when they’ve bene amazing actors who tried to make the show their own. We’ve seen each of them fall for or become deeply affectionate towards their companions in a weirdly inappropriate way and we’ve seen them struggle with being “lonely gods.”
 
It’s the former problem, which even got lip service between Capaldi and Bill, that has really rubbed me the wrong way since 2005. The Doctor is a thousand (now two thousand) year old alien. I realized, with all the hubbub about a female Doctor, that I, as a fan, never saw the Doctor as a man (or cared about his gender, rather). The First was a grandfather, the Second was a childlike clown, the Third was aloof and patronizing, the Fourth was alien and mercurial, the Fifith was a grandfather again trapped in a young man’s body, the Sixth was insane after an unstable regeneration, the Seventh started the ancient one/lonely god motif, we had no time to get the know the Eighth, and then we stormed into NuWho.
 
So why not be daring? And something NuWho has never been is daring… But it needs to be in 2017. The show has struggled for so long to reconcile itself with its long history in a way that’s sort of hobbled it. It alternates between wanting to be different (such as putting the Companions in the driver seat) and paying such deep track fan service that only a narrow niche of the audience will appreciate it.
 
This is a show that completely renews itself every few years but, during the NuWho years, it’s kind of failed to do that. Even in-show dialogue during the 50th Special sort of put the lampshade on the similarities between the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors, and Capaldi, despite trying to make it his own, is really just a grey-haired hybrid of Ten and Eleven. The show needed a new breath, and that was only going to come with a very different Doctor (I was also hoping for a minority).
 
On the human side of things, with the Companions, the dynamic is going to change quite a bit. And since that’s the part of NuWho I have the most trouble with, I look forward to it.
 
But when it comes to battling robots and monsters, a woman can get herself locked out of the TARDIS and stuck in the middle of a zany adventure just as well as any man!
Title: Re: Doctor Who: NuWho Thread
Post by: RottingCorpse on July 24, 2017, 11:30:48 AM
Christmas Special trailer from Comic-Con.

Title: Re: Doctor Who: NuWho Thread
Post by: nacho on July 25, 2017, 11:54:27 AM
The good: It's not a BS Christmas episode

The Bad: Stop bringing back dead companions!!! Jesus. Either kill them or don't but stop killing them and then giving them a magical out. That's now happened with the last three companions!

The Awesome: David Bradley as the First Doctor. The potential that we'll get a reenacted fourth episode of the Tenth Planet (or portions of it). The episode is currently missing.

I'm going to say it: The best way to reboot this show is to have David Bradley and other lookalikes remake the missing episodes 2017 style!